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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Hey everyone, I usually don't change my own oil, but I had the time over the holiday weekend. Anyway, I've drained my oil and moved to the filter and it would not budge. I grabbed it with a wrench and bent the filter and now placed a filter wrench on it, but due to the dents in the filter, now the filter wrench will not fit or grip at all and just spins. I've been trying to break this filter loose all day and it will not budge. Besides drilling a hole in the filter and using a screw driver to try and twist it off, I'm looking for suggestions on how to get it off.
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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i have one of those black steel slip-on tools, that cups the botom........ i drilled 2 holes in it and screw lag bolts up into stuck filters. it's always worked for me
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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I have a huge set of 18" pliers that I break out for the really stubborn Oil Filters, and have been known to drive a large screwdriver through the filter housing if that didn`t work.
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Originally Posted by 66427-450
i have one of those black steel slip-on tools, that cups the botom........ i drilled 2 holes in it and screw lag bolts up into stuck filters. it's always worked for me
sounds like that will work!!
But damn that is alot of work to change a filter. I always change my own. Someone must have way over tightented that baby.


Good luck!!
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Originally Posted by 12stepvette
I have a huge set of 18" pliers that I break out for the really stubborn Oil Filters, and have been known to drive a large screwdriver through the filter housing if that didn`t work.
Just seen your post, and yes I have done both of those as well.

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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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T. J. , NAPA sells a strap wrench that may help you. The strap is flexible and conforms to the filter. It is attached to a very heavy duty 1/2 drive anchor that should work even when the filter is deformed. I have used this on motorcycles where the filter is hard to reach and on diesel oil and fuel filters that are sometimes very hard to remove. It may help you with this.

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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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I have a Leslie swivle strap wrench that has never failed! Napa sell them. Next in line would be an oil filter wrench that looks like a large spring. When you wrap it around the filter and turn it counter clock wise the spring tightens up on the filter.

If that doesnt work I have a GREAT BIG pair of slip joint plires that will get any filter off!!

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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 01:54 AM
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Strap wrenches usually work best. Punching a screw driver through it will only tear the metal when you start to turn the filter. The strap wrench gets tighter as you turn the wrench and with a half inch ratchet on it you get an extra foot of leverage.
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Oil on the strap wrenches cause them to slip. Really pisses me off when that happens. Try a monkey wrench.
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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I use the "wrench" that fits over the end, you won't be able to use that now. You could use the Oil Filter Pliers, this is a huge pliers, it will loosen the filter. Because of the recessed filter, you will have to use partial turns.

The specs call for tighthening (sp?) the filter to 22 ft-lbs, this is 2-3 turns after it bottoms ! I don't know why they specify so much, maybe because of the expansion/contraction of the aluminum block ?
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Use a pipe wrench - aka plumbers wrench. You will need a large one. That's what I had to use after trying all types of filter wrenches including two strap wrenches (they are crap).
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BTDT...got pizzed off made a helluva mess....good luck
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
I have a Leslie swivle strap wrench that has never failed! Napa sell them. Next in line would be an oil filter wrench that looks like a large spring. When you wrap it around the filter and turn it counter clock wise the spring tightens up on the filter.

If that doesnt work I have a GREAT BIG pair of slip joint plires that will get any filter off!!

\BC
I like the spring type because it spreads the load over the entire filter housing and will not slip because it tightens as you turn it.
I purchased this because in my past life I owned a service station and people who changed their own oil usually didn't lube the rubber ring on the filter with oil before installing it and the next time they tried to change it couldn't get the filter off.
The one I use on my own cars fits the indentation's around the bottom of the filter and a 3/8 ratchet fits in it to remove it.
And I wouldn't tighten my filter to 22ft lbs, lube the gasket with oil and spin it on till it contacts the housing and then 3/4 turn more.
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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Thanks for all the advice. I used my filter wrench and drilled two holes into it, used two screws in the holes and it came off it was like Christmas all over again.
Thanks again to everyone
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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I would have to guess that someone put the filter on without using oil on the gasket.
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Originally Posted by paul6585
Use a pipe wrench - aka plumbers wrench. You will need a large one. That's what I had to use after trying all types of filter wrenches including two strap wrenches (they are crap).
aka monkey wrench.
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