CAGS Eliminator
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CAGS Eliminator
Who has the best price and quality on a CAGS Eliminator ? I pick up my Victory Red / Ebony on Wensday next week, i would hate to skip shift; does CAGS null the warranty ? 
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From: Daytona Beach FL
Originally Posted by sumapathi
Who has the best price and quality on a CAGS Eliminator ? I pick up my Victory Red / Ebony on Wensday next week, i would hate to skip shift; does CAGS null the warranty ?
You could do the 5 cent resistor from Radio Shack, but I recommend that you just go to one of any number of forum vendors and buy one for $19.95 so you get a nice unit that will weather protect the solenoid and wire harness.
It's a real quick and easy install.
The CorvetteForum Store and many other forum vendors have them.
Bob
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From: San Antonio Texas - Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Only thing is, it doesn't alway work. It's a resistor, and depending on a number of circumstances, the voltage varies, causing the CAGS eliminator not to work. It works most of the time, but not always, especially until the engine warms up... 
But for 20 something bucks, it's worth it...
But for 20 something bucks, it's worth it...
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From: LI NY
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Originally Posted by jazzlove
Only thing is, it doesn't alway work. It's a resistor, and depending on a number of circumstances, the voltage varies, causing the CAGS eliminator not to work. It works most of the time, but not always, especially until the engine warms up...
But for 20 something bucks, it's worth it...
But for 20 something bucks, it's worth it...
How can it not work? Isn't it true that when you hook up the resistor, the solenoid for the CAGS is actually disconnected from the wiring. I thought the resistor is to prevent a fault code.
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From: Daytona Beach FL
Originally Posted by Periokid
How can it not work? Isn't it true that when you hook up the resistor, the solenoid for the CAGS is actually disconnected from the wiring. I thought the resistor is to prevent a fault code.
When you install the CAGS eliminator it completely disconnects the solenoid. There's no way it will activate when the wire to it has been disconnected!
Bob
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From: San Antonio Texas - Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Originally Posted by Periokid
How can it not work? Isn't it true that when you hook up the resistor, the solenoid for the CAGS is actually disconnected from the wiring. I thought the resistor is to prevent a fault code.
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From: stafford country, va. Avatar: Me on turn 3 @ Bristol (The World's Fastest Half-Mile)
went with the radio shack fix, haven't had any problems. the cags light (skip shift) still lights up when it's supposed too but it doesn't lock out second.
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From: Daytona Beach FL
Originally Posted by jazzlove
Not disconnected, simply interrupted with the resistor. If the voltage varies, the signal accross the resitor varies. Like I said, it does work most of the time, after the system warms up...
When I installed mine, I disconnected the wire harness from the solenoid on the transmission.
I then put a plastic cap on the solenoid to protect it from the weather. There is absolutely no electrical connection in that plastic cap, so the solenoid is completely and totally disconnected from the electrical system of the car. There is no way that it will ever activate again unless I hook the wire harness back up to it. It is not "interrupted" it is "disconnected".
I then put the other part of the CAGS eliminator on the end of the wire harness. This part has the resistor in it. You could leave it off and drive the car, but you'd get a "check engine" light because the system detects that a wire is not connected properly. To Avoid this "check engine" light, the part you put on the wire harness has a resistor in it that simulates the resistance the system would see with the CAGS solenoid connected, so the "check engine" light won't come on. However, because the system sees the proper resistance and thinks the solenoid is still connected, you WILL still get the "shift 1->4" light, but the solenoid is completely disconnected and will not activate, so you just shift into 2nd gear even if that light is on.
After you install the CAGS eliminator, there is absolutely no electrical connection to the solenoid. It is just a hunk of metal screwed into the side of the transmission. You could take it out and put a plug in there, but it's easier and cheaper to just put the plastic cap on the solenoid and leave it there.
It is not "interrupted", it is totally "disconnected".
Bob
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From: Ramsey NJ
Originally Posted by Zig
went with the radio shack fix, haven't had any problems. the cags light (skip shift) still lights up when it's supposed too but it doesn't lock out second.
There's just no way it can activate, intermitently or otherwise.
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This Guy Is Right- I Did The Same Thing
Originally Posted by beezeye
Well, maybe I installed my CAGS eliminator wrong!!!
When I installed mine, I disconnected the wire harness from the solenoid on the transmission.
I then put a plastic cap on the solenoid to protect it from the weather. There is absolutely no electrical connection in that plastic cap, so the solenoid is completely and totally disconnected from the electrical system of the car. There is no way that it will ever activate again unless I hook the wire harness back up to it. It is not "interrupted" it is "disconnected".
I then put the other part of the CAGS eliminator on the end of the wire harness. This part has the resistor in it. You could leave it off and drive the car, but you'd get a "check engine" light because the system detects that a wire is not connected properly. To Avoid this "check engine" light, the part you put on the wire harness has a resistor in it that simulates the resistance the system would see with the CAGS solenoid connected, so the "check engine" light won't come on. However, because the system sees the proper resistance and thinks the solenoid is still connected, you WILL still get the "shift 1->4" light, but the solenoid is completely disconnected and will not activate, so you just shift into 2nd gear even if that light is on.
After you install the CAGS eliminator, there is absolutely no electrical connection to the solenoid. It is just a hunk of metal screwed into the side of the transmission. You could take it out and put a plug in there, but it's easier and cheaper to just put the plastic cap on the solenoid and leave it there.
It is not "interrupted", it is totally "disconnected".
Bob
When I installed mine, I disconnected the wire harness from the solenoid on the transmission.
I then put a plastic cap on the solenoid to protect it from the weather. There is absolutely no electrical connection in that plastic cap, so the solenoid is completely and totally disconnected from the electrical system of the car. There is no way that it will ever activate again unless I hook the wire harness back up to it. It is not "interrupted" it is "disconnected".
I then put the other part of the CAGS eliminator on the end of the wire harness. This part has the resistor in it. You could leave it off and drive the car, but you'd get a "check engine" light because the system detects that a wire is not connected properly. To Avoid this "check engine" light, the part you put on the wire harness has a resistor in it that simulates the resistance the system would see with the CAGS solenoid connected, so the "check engine" light won't come on. However, because the system sees the proper resistance and thinks the solenoid is still connected, you WILL still get the "shift 1->4" light, but the solenoid is completely disconnected and will not activate, so you just shift into 2nd gear even if that light is on.
After you install the CAGS eliminator, there is absolutely no electrical connection to the solenoid. It is just a hunk of metal screwed into the side of the transmission. You could take it out and put a plug in there, but it's easier and cheaper to just put the plastic cap on the solenoid and leave it there.
It is not "interrupted", it is totally "disconnected".
Bob
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Agreed!
Originally Posted by beezeye
Well, maybe I installed my CAGS eliminator wrong!!!
When I installed mine, I disconnected the wire harness from the solenoid on the transmission.
I then put a plastic cap on the solenoid to protect it from the weather. There is absolutely no electrical connection in that plastic cap, so the solenoid is completely and totally disconnected from the electrical system of the car. There is no way that it will ever activate again unless I hook the wire harness back up to it. It is not "interrupted" it is "disconnected".
I then put the other part of the CAGS eliminator on the end of the wire harness. This part has the resistor in it. You could leave it off and drive the car, but you'd get a "check engine" light because the system detects that a wire is not connected properly. To Avoid this "check engine" light, the part you put on the wire harness has a resistor in it that simulates the resistance the system would see with the CAGS solenoid connected, so the "check engine" light won't come on. However, because the system sees the proper resistance and thinks the solenoid is still connected, you WILL still get the "shift 1->4" light, but the solenoid is completely disconnected and will not activate, so you just shift into 2nd gear even if that light is on.
After you install the CAGS eliminator, there is absolutely no electrical connection to the solenoid. It is just a hunk of metal screwed into the side of the transmission. You could take it out and put a plug in there, but it's easier and cheaper to just put the plastic cap on the solenoid and leave it there.
It is not "interrupted", it is totally "disconnected".
Bob
When I installed mine, I disconnected the wire harness from the solenoid on the transmission.
I then put a plastic cap on the solenoid to protect it from the weather. There is absolutely no electrical connection in that plastic cap, so the solenoid is completely and totally disconnected from the electrical system of the car. There is no way that it will ever activate again unless I hook the wire harness back up to it. It is not "interrupted" it is "disconnected".
I then put the other part of the CAGS eliminator on the end of the wire harness. This part has the resistor in it. You could leave it off and drive the car, but you'd get a "check engine" light because the system detects that a wire is not connected properly. To Avoid this "check engine" light, the part you put on the wire harness has a resistor in it that simulates the resistance the system would see with the CAGS solenoid connected, so the "check engine" light won't come on. However, because the system sees the proper resistance and thinks the solenoid is still connected, you WILL still get the "shift 1->4" light, but the solenoid is completely disconnected and will not activate, so you just shift into 2nd gear even if that light is on.
After you install the CAGS eliminator, there is absolutely no electrical connection to the solenoid. It is just a hunk of metal screwed into the side of the transmission. You could take it out and put a plug in there, but it's easier and cheaper to just put the plastic cap on the solenoid and leave it there.
It is not "interrupted", it is totally "disconnected".
Bob
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From: Ozark, Alabama
Originally Posted by jazzlove
Not disconnected, simply interrupted with the resistor. If the voltage varies, the signal accross the resitor varies. Like I said, it does work most of the time, after the system warms up...
ALERTYou don't know what you're talking about.
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From: San Antonio Texas - Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Originally Posted by rbl
ALERTYou don't know what you're talking about.
But, rude responses are uncalled for...
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From: Ramsey NJ
Originally Posted by jazzlove
Perhaps so.... This was what I was told by the mechanic who installed it. If so, then I stand corrected...
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From: Mobile AL
Originally Posted by MFW
I've done the "standard" reply before (though not with the icon in question) and come in behind something I didn't even know was there. Occasionally makes *me* look stupid, which is why I go back and read threads after posting.
Cheers to all.
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From: Sebring FL
Originally Posted by hlcptr
I'm starting to think he installed it backwards.
Originally Posted by Firedog
Unless I'm mistaken, the CAGS doesn't even come into play until the engine reaches normal operating temperature...How could it "not work" before the engine is warmed up?
Conclusion: The guy is spewing garbage.