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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Okay, let's see if we may have something worth following up on, or just a random couple of incidents. Here is a poll to determine the prevalence of getting flashed at night for your lights, even when on low beam.

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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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Have you never flashed a Beemer or Lexus with HID's?
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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One vote for not yet.

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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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Have you never flashed a Beemer or Lexus with HID's?
They showed me their Highbeams and a what a birdie in a BMW looks like too
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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Have you never flashed a Beemer or Lexus with HID's?
hehehe yes
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Almost every night, several times per night... Some people are just f'ing stupid and don't realize what HIDs are, they become like "a deer in headlights" and stare into them... Not my problem the idiots aren't looking straight ahead (if you do this, unlike actual high beams, the HIDs with not bling you...). Lately it's been pissing me off so much that I just high beam them back and they really freak out (and probably feel really stupid, too.)


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I've had a new Lexus for a year and a half and have never been flashed. But then it also has automatically leveliing headlights too.
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Originally Posted by turbo_tom
Almost every night, several times per night... Some people are just f'ing stupid and don't realize what HIDs are, they become like "a deer in headlights" and stare into them... Not my problem the idiots aren't looking straight ahead (if you do this, unlike actual high beams, the HIDs with not bling you...). Lately it's been pissing me off so much that I just high beam them back and they really freak out (and probably feel really stupid, too.)


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Ummm... hokay. Maybe everyone on the planet besides you is stupid. That certainly could be.

I, however, might be willing to consider for a moment that it may also be possible that there is a real issue...

Here is a link to consider...

(But we need not let data and science interrupt a mighty good rant! You "Hi beaming them" in order to "bling" them is probably a darn good response to them indicating they are having trouble seeing. )

http://tinyurl.com/djab5

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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo_tom
Almost every night, several times per night... Some people are just f'ing stupid and don't realize what HIDs are, they become like "a deer in headlights" and stare into them... Not my problem the idiots aren't looking straight ahead (if you do this, unlike actual high beams, the HIDs with not bling you...). Lately it's been pissing me off so much that I just high beam them back and they really freak out (and probably feel really stupid, too.)


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"Another factor that may be involved is... drivers may look directly at oncoming headlamps during driving to see the unfamiliar item. This is something that they do not normally do...If this is the case now, one would expect glare complaints about HIDs to stop when drivers become familiar with the HID color. NHTSA is aware of no studies or evidence to suggest that this theory is correct."

49 CFR Part 571

[Docket No. 01-8885; Notice 01]
RIN 2127-AH81
Glare from Headlamps and other Front Mounted Lamps
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 108;
Lamps, Reflective Devices, and Associated Equipment


Oh, and yes, that of course is the exact same 49 CFR that I got grief for from Itshervette or some such. I hate to be wrong, but when I am, I readily admit it.

Why would you look in the hazardous materials transport regs 49 CFR for information about a car? The onlything in there is the shipping classification for airbags or cars with fuel in the tanks.

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I've been flashed several times on the strip, but so far it has cost me beads every time. Whats the trick?
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I currently have a Lexus RX330 and have never been flashed...It has automatic leveling HID headlights. Prior to that I owned an Audi A6 with non-auto leveling HID's and got flashed all the time.

My C6 is on order. Are the C6 HID's auto leveling?
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As long as we are on the subject. What does "automatic exterior lamp contorl" means? It's on Corvette GM's Web site: "Headlamps xenon, high intensity discharge, with automatic exterior lamp control."
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HID headlights meet current federal standards and attribute the complaints about them to a tendency for drivers to stare at the lights’ distinctive blue-white hue.

Not my problem. When I see HIDs coming at me I just focus away from them. They've been out long enough where everyone in the US should know what they are... think about it, if the person flashing you knows what HIDs are (and there's a 99% chance they do), then they are just flashing to basically **** you off and say, "your headlights are too bright for me to stare at..." - this, in my opinion, makes them an inconsiderate mor0n. The other 1% of people who flash you because they don't know what an HIB beam looks like, well, after you flash them back with your highbeams, they should get the picture. Besides, a normal highbeam is 10x more blinding than an HID lowbeam...

So my point is, if you know what HIDs are, and what they look like, why the hell would you flash the oncoming car?!?!?


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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo_tom
Not my problem. When I see HIDs coming at me I just focus away from them. They've been out long enough where everyone in the US should know what they are... think about it, if the person flashing you knows what HIDs are (and there's a 99% chance they do), then they are just flashing to basically **** you off and say, "your headlights are too bright for me to stare at..." - this, in my opinion, makes them an inconsiderate mor0n. The other 1% of people who flash you because they don't know what an HIB beam looks like, well, after you flash them back with your highbeams, they should get the picture. Besides, a normal highbeam is 10x more blinding than an HID lowbeam...

So my point is, if you know what HIDs are, and what they look like, why the hell would you flash the oncoming car?!?!?


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#1. I f you are going to quote, please be sure to get the context correct: " NHTSA is aware of no studies or evidence to suggest that this theory is correct." [emphasis added]

#2. You could be right -- could just be old codgers... but, seems it could also be something more (i.e., look at current poll results. Pretty intriguing to me...)
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Originally Posted by turbo_tom
Not my problem. When I see HIDs coming at me I just focus away from them. They've been out long enough where everyone in the US should know what they are... think about it, if the person flashing you knows what HIDs are (and there's a 99% chance they do), then they are just flashing to basically **** you off and say, "your headlights are too bright for me to stare at..." - this, in my opinion, makes them an inconsiderate mor0n. The other 1% of people who flash you because they don't know what an HIB beam looks like, well, after you flash them back with your highbeams, they should get the picture. Besides, a normal highbeam is 10x more blinding than an HID lowbeam...

So my point is, if you know what HIDs are, and what they look like, why the hell would you flash the oncoming car?!?!?
With 64 poll respondents so far, it looks to me that it could be a bit more than just old codgers, but I guess we would need to know the GENERAL rate of flashing is to other HID systems to know if the 'vette' is any different at all. Again, not trying to be a pain, but it does seem to be more than just noise, however, it is interesting that only one person felt a correction was in order, so it must not be that bad!


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With 64 poll respondents so far, it looks to me that it could be a bit more than just old codgers, but I guess we would need to know the GENERAL rate of flashing is to other HID systems to know if the 'vette' is any different at all. Again, not trying to be a pain, but it does seem to be more than just noise, however, it is interesting that only one person felt a correction was in order, so it must not be that bad!



with 70+ responses, it is looking interesting:

Getting flashed?

Nope 61.11%
Once or infrequently 16.67%
Often enough enough to note 20.83%
Needed correction 1.39%



I interpret that (could be wrong) to mean the majority of cars have well adjusted lamps, but that up to one in five may need to be adjusted...

OR

It could also mean only 20% of C6 drivers are paying attention to the multitude of geezers out there who are having difficulty acclimating to HIDs coming at them...
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I think it has more to do with how wide the light pattern is more than mis-adjusted (height) lights. Then again, I don't know what I'm talking about, so I'll just keep flashing them back.
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