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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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I am amazed at the number of people that are always complaining about the incrediable C6. Complaints about the interior, paint, brakes, nav system and the list goes on. For the money this American built sports car is the best value on the planet! Of course the interior and exterior could be upgraded however with upgrades the cost would rise!

A base C6 starts at less than $50K and one loaded will go out the door at $60K. Show me anything comparable and I will retract this thread.

Thanks to Dave Hill and his team for making this world class C6 available for such a reasonable price!!

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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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I bought the car below for $46,790 and it is perfect. My only options are 2LT and Z51. I consider that one heck of a bargain!

BTW, five years ago, I paid about $53K for a loaded C5 Convetible. Got smarter.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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I am amazed at the number of people that are always complaining about the incrediable C6. Complaints about the interior, paint, brakes, nav system and the list goes on. For the money this American built sports car is the best value on the planet! Of course the interior and exterior could be upgraded however with upgrades the cost would rise!

A base C6 starts at less than $50K and one loaded will go out the door at $60K. Show me anything comparable and I will retract this thread.

Thanks to Dave Hill and his team for making this world class C6 available for such a reasonable price!!

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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DP Dave
I am amazed at the number of people that are always complaining about the incrediable C6. Complaints about the interior, paint, brakes, nav system and the list goes on. For the money this American built sports car is the best value on the planet! Of course the interior and exterior could be upgraded however with upgrades the cost would rise!

A base C6 starts at less than $50K and one loaded will go out the door at $60K. Show me anything comparable and I will retract this thread.

Thanks to Dave Hill and his team for making this world class C6 available for such a reasonable price!!

Couldn't have said it any better myself.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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I don't think anyone is disappointed in the new C6, it's just we all want to know if problems we encounter are normal. I for one have had a few problems, but I have to agree that the C6 is not only the best deal for your money, but it's also the sexiest.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DP Dave
I am amazed at the number of people that are always complaining about the incrediable C6. Complaints about the interior, paint, brakes, nav system and the list goes on. For the money this American built sports car is the best value on the planet! Of course the interior and exterior could be upgraded however with upgrades the cost would rise!

A base C6 starts at less than $50K and one loaded will go out the door at $60K. Show me anything comparable and I will retract this thread.

Thanks to Dave Hill and his team for making this world class C6 available for such a reasonable price!!

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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DP Dave
I am amazed at the number of people that are always complaining about the incrediable C6. Complaints about the interior, paint, brakes, nav system and the list goes on. For the money this American built sports car is the best value on the planet! Of course the interior and exterior could be upgraded however with upgrades the cost would rise!

A base C6 starts at less than $50K and one loaded will go out the door at $60K. Show me anything comparable and I will retract this thread.

Thanks to Dave Hill and his team for making this world class C6 available for such a reasonable price!!

We complain because we care. They could have done so much better, and in many cases for less cost too. In most cases, the things we complain about in the Corvette are done better on less expensive cars.

GM has already demonstrated that they can do better without driving up costs. They removed the steering column lock and the requirement to shift to reverse in the 2006 models. They've acknowledged their mistake with the bus steering wheel in the '05. Etc. But there is much more they can do, and do inexpensively, to make the car better.

For starters, they can key the harmonic dampener to the crank as 93,000,000 previous generation small blocks were made (15 cents), they can eliminate the god awful Bose system and replace it with a decent (yet inexpensive) true stereo sound system as is found in many less expensive cars.

They can unload many of the functions from the left stalk, moving lighting controls to the dash and the cruise to buttons on the steering wheel. While they're at it, they can give us better steering feel (see the less expensive 350Z for how to do these things right).

They can dump the troublesome keyless start system and give us a reliable proven ignition key. Even inexpensive cars have smooth easy shifting manual transmissions, we should have that too. Etc.

We aren't asking for anything that would make the car more expensive. In almost all cases, we're just asking for things to be done better, same as they are on other, less expensive, cars.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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We complain because we care. They could have done so much better, and in many cases for less cost too. In most cases, the things we complain about in the Corvette are done better on less expensive cars.

GM has already demonstrated that they can do better without driving up costs. They removed the steering column lock and the requirement to shift to reverse in the 2006 models. They've acknowledged their mistake with the bus steering wheel in the '05. Etc. But there is much more they can do, and do inexpensively, to make the car better.

For starters, they can key the harmonic dampener to the crank as 93,000,000 previous generation small blocks were made (15 cents), they can eliminate the god awful Bose system and replace it with a decent (yet inexpensive) true stereo sound system as is found in many less expensive cars.

They can unload many of the functions from the left stalk, moving lighting controls to the dash and the cruise to buttons on the steering wheel. While they're at it, they can give us better steering feel (see the less expensive 350Z for how to do these things right).

They can dump the troublesome keyless start system and give us a reliable proven ignition key. Even inexpensive cars have smooth easy shifting manual transmissions, we should have that too. Etc.

We aren't asking for anything that would make the car more expensive. In almost all cases, we're just asking for things to be done better, same as they are on other, less expensive, cars.
Not only do I agree that's when we get GM's attention. I don't thing if enough of the Z-51 break squeal issue were discussed here we wouldn't be getting no pads. I agree it's a minor complaint but we all got results. When someone posts a radio problem they learn there is a fix so some do get hold and people should leard to use the SEARCH tool before posting everything.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DP Dave

A base C6 starts at less than $50K and one loaded will go out the door at $60K.

My fully loaded C6 Vert went out the door for a little over 68,000 and that was at 2,500 under MSRP
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ricatthebeach
My fully loaded C6 Vert went out the door for a little over 68,000 and that was at 2,500 under MSRP
I'm not sure how that's possible - mine stickered at $63,555; mine's pretty much loaded. 1SB, Power Top, Nav, Z51, Mag Red, Polished Wheels, On Star, XM....what else could I have gotten to push it up by $7k? Automatic? Was F55 that much more than Z51? That's it.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Very happy with my C-6!
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DP Dave
I am amazed at the number of people that are always complaining about the incrediable C6. Complaints about the interior, paint, brakes, nav system and the list goes on. For the money this American built sports car is the best value on the planet! Of course the interior and exterior could be upgraded however with upgrades the cost would rise!

A base C6 starts at less than $50K and one loaded will go out the door at $60K. Show me anything comparable and I will retract this thread.

Thanks to Dave Hill and his team for making this world class C6 available for such a reasonable price!!


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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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I think one of the downsides of the C6 being coupled with the XLR is some of the commonalities between the cars. The keyless ignition being the most troublesome. Not so much when it works, but for everytime it does something stupid that causes DBS. DBS is totally uncacceptable to me. Glad there have been no problems with the keyless doors, and the electric door latches, I honestly thought that was going to be a problem too.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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i have to agree with you some of the complaints and whining i've read here are unbelieveable a few weeks ago i read one from somebody complaining he left the top down on his vert and the seats on his black interior got hot and burned his legs . now there's one i'm sure gm will get right on. and i love the guys who complain about the xm antennae like it wasn't there when they bought the car and it just appeared( try listening to commercial radio all day if you want something to complain about. well enough said i
m starting to sound like one of those whiney babies. for years i've thought before you are allowed to buy a vette you should have to take and pass a test to make sure you'll appreciate it properly and realize whay a great car you have.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 11:17 PM
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Sure there is always some room for improvement..........

BUT OVERALL THIS VETTE IS GR8 !!!!


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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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For years i've thought before you are allowed to buy a vette you should have to take and pass a test to make sure you'll appreciate it properly and realize what a great car you have.
And know why it blocks out 2nd gear if you have a manual
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DP Dave
I am amazed at the number of people that are always complaining about the incrediable C6. Complaints about the interior, paint, brakes, nav system and the list goes on. For the money this American built sports car is the best value on the planet! Of course the interior and exterior could be upgraded however with upgrades the cost would rise!

A base C6 starts at less than $50K and one loaded will go out the door at $60K. Show me anything comparable and I will retract this thread.

Thanks to Dave Hill and his team for making this world class C6 available for such a reasonable price!!

I think the 2006 is great. I wouldn't change a thing, it is just a great fun car. I also get tired of the complaints.
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I'm not sure how that's possible - mine stickered at $63,555; mine's pretty much loaded. 1SB, Power Top, Nav, Z51, Mag Red, Polished Wheels, On Star, XM....what else could I have gotten to push it up by $7k? Automatic? Was F55 that much more than Z51? That's it.
I just looked at the spreadsheet of prices for the 05 vert and $64K+ is the most you could spend for a sticker price if you were paying MSRP. Ricatthebeach did say out the door. That would include taxes, etc. That's the only explanation.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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We complain because we care. They could have done so much better, and in many cases for less cost too. In most cases, the things we complain about in the Corvette are done better on less expensive cars.
Such as?

GM has already demonstrated that they can do better without driving up costs. They removed the steering column lock and the requirement to shift to reverse in the 2006 models. They've acknowledged their mistake with the bus steering wheel in the '05. Etc. But there is much more they can do, and do inexpensively, to make the car better.
So they replaced it with the minivan steering wheel and thats improvement ???. What else do you think they can do and do inexpensively to make the C6 a better car?

For starters, they can key the harmonic dampener to the crank as 93,000,000 previous generation small blocks were made (15 cents), they can eliminate the god awful Bose system and replace it with a decent (yet inexpensive) true stereo sound system as is found in many less expensive cars.
Very many people like the Bose system and don't find it "god awful."
What inexpensive sound systems are you referring to and in which cars are these inexpensive yet better sound systems found?

They can unload many of the functions from the left stalk, moving lighting controls to the dash and the cruise to buttons on the steering wheel. While they're at it, they can give us better steering feel (see the less expensive 350Z for how to do these things right).
What was the title of this thread again?

They can dump the troublesome keyless start system and give us a reliable proven ignition key. Even inexpensive cars have smooth easy shifting manual transmissions, we should have that too. Etc.
Drop the keyless start. Keys are a thing of the past. I don't even use a key to open the door to my house. All my doors garage door included, have keypads. Keys are for janitors.

There are many C5 coupe and vert owners and C5 Z06 owners who are quite impressed with the shifting of the C6 manual transmission. I let a C5 Z06 owner drive my C6 today and he marveled at the improvement between the C5 and the C6.

We aren't asking for anything that would make the car more expensive. In almost all cases, we're just asking for things to be done better, same as they are on other, less expensive, cars.
Why not just buy one of those "less expensive" cars that you refer to with so many things done better than in the C6 Vette and be done with it?

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