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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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I generally agree with StanNH and believe that all posts should be "generally" civil. But, I just can't see where this forum has trended "down." (Although I don't like the above picture and believe that everyone should have a profile filled out.)

I always worry when I hear anything that might encourage Forum Managers to "tighten up" the postings. TOO MUCH "tightening up," and disallowing certain things, will take the naturalness, interest and spark out of the postings.

In particular, I would hope that members should ALWAYS be allowed to post BAD experiences with ALL VENDORS and NAME them .. to protect us all. Such warnings can save brother-members thousands of dollars! (Wouldn't we warn a BLOOD-brother of a bad experience?)

Owning only one vette, I don't have an opportunity to deal with DOZENS of vendors so I appreciate, and value, ALL heads-up warnings.

I really enjoy Stan's postings and pay particular attention to them. This time, however, and in this matter, I just don't quite see the concern he has.

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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 01:45 AM
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I don't think this forum or CFOT are as nasty or polarized as the PR&C section gets. Is it possible that there's a spillover of rude behavior from there to the other forums?
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by C6 Strangebob
I don't think this forum or CFOT are as nasty or polarized as the PR&C section gets. Is it possible that there's a spillover of rude behavior from there to the other forums?

The CFOT section, and come to think of it, the drag racing section, have been the scene of more than a few verbal scuffles
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverCoupe
Well said, Stan. Same reason people don't give turn signals or allow other cars to merge. Just no consideration for others. We're seeing more and more of it everywhere.

To keep this on topic - you can disagree about what your neighbor puts on his/her C6 without being nasty about it.

If you're a kind and considerate person, I'm sure you'll agree that there are a lot of selfish & inconsiderate people in this world. Not much can be done to change this. Afterall, most who fit this description are to obsessed with themselves to notice this defect in them. Just be glad you're not that way.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 02:42 AM
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Stan I agree with your message.

I also have seen what your talking about. I also may have been guilty of a few sarcastic and harsh responses. It has always been a follow up reply to narrow mined know it all.
I also agree with what another felow CF member expressed, it is just like driving in traffic, some will let you over and others gloat when they can prevent it.

I find it hard to hold back on some of the critical red neck posts about the choices made by fellow vette owners.
The one that really gets me is that some vettes are performance cars and some are not and that some vette choices mean that they are cooler and wiser because of them. This stuff is high school like for the weak and insecure. Some vette owners purchase their cars in cash you think we would know what we want but yet we have little big daddy trying to judge and coach us all. It is weird, it takes all kinds.
Oh well, the forum will just have to cope, the good thing is the red necks are in minority.
I do think it is good to respond with candid follow up post to the red neck when a statement is posted that is full of
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by C6 Strangebob
I don't think this forum or CFOT are as nasty or polarized as the PR&C section gets. Is it possible that there's a spillover of rude behavior from there to the other forums?
I've always been curious as to why there is a political based section in a forum for Corvettes. The two just don't seem to go together.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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I'm a newbe, and FWIW, been with the Porsche community for many years. I have seen good Porsche forums die from aggressive, rude, narrow minded idiots. It's hard to police a public forum, but don't think it couldn't happen here. Hopefully the moderators are active enough to prevent this type of personality from ruining a good site. Ignoring the idiots, not engaging in senseless debate, is the best way to keep the forum at a high standard. Debate is a fine thing. Its opens the mind for ideas. But argueing with an obivious idiot just adds fuel to their fire, IMHO.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wanta06
I've always been curious as to why there is a political based section in a forum for Corvettes. The two just don't seem to go together.
Corvette drivers have strong opinions...used to be in OT.. seperated it to keep the whackiness in a more controllable area... keyboard warriors are everywhere..time to be a duck's back..
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
And the latest, which is destined to become a "hit" the '05 C6, with its, crank pulley bolt, dead battery, weak differential, doughboy steering wheel, vs the '06 C6.

Lots of polarization in this place... Yes indeed, lots of polarization.

You have to have a thick skin if you want to hang out here or you won't last long in a place like this.
You left off the chrome A/C ***** vs the all black one's

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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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I'll add a few more comments. I don't think any of us see more moderator intervention/tighter limits as a solution to the insulting or antagonistic posts that appear. That just limits the truly spirited discussions, and the associated humor, that we often engage in. It really is a matter of how we, as forum users, deal with those individuals. I've typically just ignored these jerks and added them to my Ignore List. On the few occasions where I've replied, I've always regretted it since that's when the really pubescent behavior seems to be drawn out of the offending poster.

I did not know about the triangle/bad post icon that accompanies every post. That might be a wonderful tool to use and will alert the mods to someone who has gone over the line. I will try using that in the future instead of posting a reply. Whatever, this is still the best Corvette forum available and I wouldn't give it up. There's just too many really good people here and too much very useful information, tips, mods, and photos. Keep up the good work, guys.

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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Stan, I agree as well. And it does seem to me that things have gotten worse lately, and it is almost always a newbie slingin' the mud.

Name calling and implications of stupidity (or other derogatory remarks or implications) are simply not appropriate under any circustances.

I'm sure the mods would intervene everytime if they knew, but like a couple of them have said in this thread, they are spread very thin. It's our job to let them know when it happens. This is just my opinion, but a name-caller should get ONE warning, then if it happens again, he or she should be permanently banned from the forum.

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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Yep Stan...does happen and at times out of bounds. I have seen entire forums implode due to this issue and then over moderation...classic was the thriving AudiWorld Audi TT forum that ended up committing forum suicide with factions splitting and a new forum starting. Does anyone remember about a 6-8 months ago a fellow posted on the C6 forum mistakenly thinking it was the C5 forum and was asking if anyone was having their chrome peel off of the hood hinges and he showed a pick of what was occurring...of course it was immediately pointed out to him he had the wrong forum (that was alright) but he show pics of his C5 which was decked out with copious amounts of chrome..bling pax thing...I was appalled at the lack of forum decorum with over a dozen C6 forum members becoming rude, nasty, insulting and degrading..the guy was proud of what he had, obviously spent big $ doing what he did and some felt it necessary to be supreme judge over him. Although it was not my style my feeling is 'can't say something nice say nothing but if you have to, then say it like you would want it said to yourself' The thread kept going on and on...felt so badly for the guy I sent him a PM apologizing saying by far the majority of the C6 were not like that..it was bad.
I hope all understand the 'this color is the fastest' and the Z51 threads are not a put down session...to me I am just proud to own a Vette and the Baskin Robbins applies to cars as well as ice cream...
And yes you need to have a thick skin on occasion...the dough boy posts use to bother me...but I know what I like and to hell with the rest of you OOpppsss no forum decorum
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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Stan,
Thanks for trying to reel in some of the less hospitable aspects of a forum. I'm moderator or owner on 7 Yahoo groups and know how tough it can be to manage malcontents. If people would only read their posts before hitting send, they might think twice about being rude. But, like any open mike opportunity, some people will have delusion of grandeur.

I've only become a Corvette owner again since November (when I joined this very helpful community), and have been attacked for some silly reasons. Most of the people I have met here are great and let's hope the negative posters move along as time progresses.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by StanNH
Unfortunately, I find that my own Ignore List has grown exponentially these past few weeks and continues to grow. Where are these people coming from?


Sorry Stan, I would have replied to this thread along time ago but your on my ignore list.

Just kidding. All good points. I was thinking about this the other day when the guy with the 22 inch wheels was getting picked on and was reacting angrily to the replies. Seems you should have think skin, but then again a little thoughtfulness and tack can also applied. I kinda view this forum like a family, where you can be honest about your opinions, but you still need to be thoughtful of other people's feelings, just like you do with your family members. Jeff
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Stan-

Besides being informative, your posts are often just plain fun to read. Don't let the jerks get you down, it's folks like you that keep the civility level of this forum as high as it is.

There's a bunch of people posting here whom I'd like to meet in person some day, a few whom I'd like to punch in the snoot, and hundreds of honest intelligent posters who share their knowlege and love of the car.

Keep up the good work!

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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AFVETTE
You left off the chrome A/C ***** vs the all black one's

Tom
Oh my gosh yes. That one is a heavy duty brain buster.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Its saturday morning and this was the first thread I read...I never knew we had an ignore list!
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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If you want to see crazyness and feel better about our board, spend some time on Yahoo stock boards.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by toorich
Its saturday morning and this was the first thread I read...I never knew we had an ignore list!
My wife made me put the venders list on it. That way she figures I'll spend my $$ on her, not the Vette.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by toorich
Its saturday morning and this was the first thread I read...I never knew we had an ignore list!
It's a great tool. Just click on the user's name, view public profile, then look on the red bar near the top of the page that appears. It will have "add to buddy list" and "add to ignore list" options. Click on the "add to ignore list" and that person's posts will be blocked from your view. You can undo this at any time if you change your mind.

The only problem is that the ignore function won't block the post if it shows up as a quote in a later post by someone else.
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