Cags Eliminator
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Cags Eliminator
I tried doing a search and it comes up with posts but none really describe what the CAGS eliminator is. sorry to post such a general question. good news i think i have a live buyer for my 350z, just a matter of time if the deal goes through 
can anyone please explain what the cags eliminator is/does? i am perspectively still going to purchase an a6.
can anyone please explain what the cags eliminator is/does? i am perspectively still going to purchase an a6.
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St Jude Donor '13
Originally Posted by bobsocal
I tried doing a search and it comes up with posts but none really describe what the CAGS eliminator is. sorry to post such a general question. good news i think i have a live buyer for my 350z, just a matter of time if the deal goes through
can anyone please explain what the cags eliminator is/does? i am perspectively still going to purchase an a6.
can anyone please explain what the cags eliminator is/does? i am perspectively still going to purchase an a6.
Since you're purchasing an A6 the CAGS eliminator is nothing you need to worry about. It's only for manuals and it's to eliminate the 1st-4th "Skip Shift" that is designed to keep the Vette from getting hit by Gas Guzzler tax in the EPA test.
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Originally Posted by TheKomoman
Since you're purchasing an A6 the CAGS eliminator is nothing you need to worry about. It's only for manuals and it's to eliminate the 1st-4th "Skip Shift" that is designed to keep the Vette from getting hit by Gas Guzzler tax in the EPA test.
Good explanation.
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Originally Posted by TheKomoman
Since you're purchasing an A6 the CAGS eliminator is nothing you need to worry about. It's only for manuals and it's to eliminate the 1st-4th "Skip Shift" that is designed to keep the Vette from getting hit by Gas Guzzler tax in the EPA test.
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Originally Posted by TheKomoman
Since you're purchasing an A6 the CAGS eliminator is nothing you need to worry about. It's only for manuals and it's to eliminate the 1st-4th "Skip Shift" that is designed to keep the Vette from getting hit by Gas Guzzler tax in the EPA test.
what does the skip shift do actually? Like doesi t automatically put the trans into 4th gear????
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St Jude Donor '13
Originally Posted by Hippiehead025
what does the skip shift do actually? Like doesi t automatically put the trans into 4th gear????
CAGS stands for Computer Assisted Gear Selection. It locks out 2nd and 3rd gear, gives you no choice but to shift into 4th out of 1st. Kicks in when you're like <20% throttle under a certain speed.
The EPA mileage test is very regimented. So over the years the engineers have figured out how to design the shift points in automatics and developed CAGS for manuals in order to keep the EPA mileage rating above the gas guzzler level. I think the tax is like 10% so we save $4000-6000 because of it. For me, I'll take putting in the $17 relay clip and pocket the difference!
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Originally Posted by TheKomoman
CAGS stands for Computer Assisted Gear Selection. It locks out 2nd and 3rd gear, gives you no choice but to shift into 4th out of 1st. Kicks in when you're like <20% throttle under a certain speed.
The EPA mileage test is very regimented. So over the years the engineers have figured out how to design the shift points in automatics and developed CAGS for manuals in order to keep the EPA mileage rating above the gas guzzler level. I think the tax is like 10% so we save $4000-6000 because of it. For me, I'll take putting in the $17 relay clip and pocket the difference!
The EPA mileage test is very regimented. So over the years the engineers have figured out how to design the shift points in automatics and developed CAGS for manuals in order to keep the EPA mileage rating above the gas guzzler level. I think the tax is like 10% so we save $4000-6000 because of it. For me, I'll take putting in the $17 relay clip and pocket the difference!
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Originally Posted by cthusker
Excellent post... I have my CAGS ready when my vette arrives but I never realized WHY GM did it. Makes sense and did save us a ton of money......
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Originally Posted by TheKomoman
CAGS stands for Computer Assisted Gear Selection. It locks out 2nd and 3rd gear, gives you no choice but to shift into 4th out of 1st. Kicks in when you're like <20% throttle under a certain speed.
The EPA mileage test is very regimented. So over the years the engineers have figured out how to design the shift points in automatics and developed CAGS for manuals in order to keep the EPA mileage rating above the gas guzzler level. I think the tax is like 10% so we save $4000-6000 because of it. For me, I'll take putting in the $17 relay clip and pocket the difference!
The EPA mileage test is very regimented. So over the years the engineers have figured out how to design the shift points in automatics and developed CAGS for manuals in order to keep the EPA mileage rating above the gas guzzler level. I think the tax is like 10% so we save $4000-6000 because of it. For me, I'll take putting in the $17 relay clip and pocket the difference!
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http://www.ssinserts.com/Merchant2/m...egory_Code=51a
There's one link. Google it......easy to find options. It's not an official GM part. I don't believe it turns off the light. Again, unless you shift too soon routinely, it's never really a problem. I've never bothered to install it.
There's one link. Google it......easy to find options. It's not an official GM part. I don't believe it turns off the light. Again, unless you shift too soon routinely, it's never really a problem. I've never bothered to install it.
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From: Raleigh NC
On MN6 cars, there is a wire pair running to the transmission that carries the signal to block 2nd and 3rd gears. You can prevent this by just unplugging the connector from the transmission. The problem is that you will get a "check engine" indication.
A typical CAGS "elmininator" includes (1) a resistor that make the computer think it is still connected to the transmission, and (2) a plug to cover the socket in the transmission to keep it clean and dry.
I ordered one while I was waiting for my car. I dropped it off at the dealer and asked them to install it for me when the car arrived, so I've never had to deal with it.
I think CAGS is a minor issue in any case, but it's cheap and easy to elimininate. Then, it's not an issue at all.
A typical CAGS "elmininator" includes (1) a resistor that make the computer think it is still connected to the transmission, and (2) a plug to cover the socket in the transmission to keep it clean and dry.
I ordered one while I was waiting for my car. I dropped it off at the dealer and asked them to install it for me when the car arrived, so I've never had to deal with it.
I think CAGS is a minor issue in any case, but it's cheap and easy to elimininate. Then, it's not an issue at all.
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From: Mansfield Ohio
After I tried to shift to second and couldn't get it there it didn't take me long to install one on the Goat M6 I had. Cost was around $17 from PFYC. Takes longer to get the car up then to install it. 
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You can get a 2200 ohm or so resistor at the Radio Shack and just stick it in the connector that you remove from the transmission. That and a little electrical tape to keep it in place and block out road crud will eliminate any error codes. Maybe a tie wrap to keep the connector from dangling. Total cost 0.99 for the resistor (you actually get 5, maybe you can share with friends), one tie wrap and the cost of 4 inches or so of electrical tape.
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From: Skippack PA
St Jude Donor '13
Originally Posted by 1fastLT
I got the eliminator now where is the plug...exactly?
Bugman has an excellent write-up on his site, and there's a PDF you can download and print for reference.
http://c6.81x.com/
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Originally Posted by 1fastLT
What is the part # for the relay clip and where can I get one, and does it turn off the light?
On my C5, I had the CAGs eliminator, and it worked great.
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From: Mansfield Ohio
Originally Posted by 1fastLT
I got the eliminator now where is the plug...exactly?
Melting Slicks
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From: Manassas VA
Originally Posted by 1fastLT
I got the eliminator now where is the plug...exactly?