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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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Thank's to some forum members, I updated my software, and can now play MP3's in my car. The only problem is some files do not show up? Burned a disk with over 100 files, and some randomly are not there? It even shows that it is going from track 1 to track 4, but there is no sign of 2 or 3? Has anyone else had this problem, and is there a fix??
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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Can't say I've had this problem. Are you sure the files that are missing are actually MP3 format? Could they be WMA or another file type instead?

If the files are in fact MP3, what is the sample rate, 128, 160 etc. I think the radio in the Corvette won't play files that don't fall within a certain range. It's shown in the manual but I don't have my manual with me right now.

I don't think the number of files you have on your disc is a problem since I have MP3 discs with up to 193 songs in 15 folders.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jgraditor
Thank's to some forum members, I updated my software, and can now play MP3's in my car. The only problem is some files do not show up? Burned a disk with over 100 files, and some randomly are not there? It even shows that it is going from track 1 to track 4, but there is no sign of 2 or 3? Has anyone else had this problem, and is there a fix??
Check to make sure the titles of the files that don't show are within the maximum length limits. 32 characters max for titles, including spaces. Also make sure you used version 1.0 ID tags. Our radios barf on version 2.0 ID tags. This should be an option with your burner software.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Check to make sure the titles of the files that don't show are within the maximum length limits. 32 characters max for titles, including spaces. Also make sure you used version 1.0 ID tags. Our radios barf on version 2.0 ID tags. This should be an option with your burner software.
If the names are too long, won't the display simply chop off all characters past the limit. That appears to be what happens for me if a title gets to long.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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If the names are too long, won't the display simply chop off all characters past the limit. That appears to be what happens for me if a title gets to long.
What I've seen is either no title, or no artist, will be displayed when the song plays, or the player won't play the song at all, when titles or artist names are too long. The behavior seems to vary depending on the surrounding songs in the list. I suspect a buffer in the player overflows and generates different errors depending on the exact nature and order of the particular song list.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Where does it go from there? Make sure you haven't selected random play.

I have no probs with mine other than random play seems to seems to play the same somg too often.
But I'm non Nav
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by quickride
If the names are too long, won't the display simply chop off all characters past the limit. That appears to be what happens for me if a title gets to long.
Depends on the burning software and the configuration. When using certain software the file just ends up missing if the file name is too long. Other software it just gets cut short like you mentioned.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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If you used iTunes to burn your MP3 CD, the problem is in all likelihood in the number of characters in either the song title, the artist's name, or the album name. If I recall correctly, 22 characters is the limit; if any line contains more than that, the track will appear to be invisible when you play the disc in the Corvette. To correct the problem, just go into your iTunes file and manually shorten the title(s) / name(s) to 22 or fewer characters. I had exactly the same problem as the one you describe and this is what solved it for me.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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I use Nero version 6.6 to burn my MP3 discs. I set the software to use ASCII characters and that gives me 27 Characters for the song title and up to 31 characters for the name of a folder. One of my discs has 197 songs on it and every one of them plays and displays on my screen. You can click on the link below and go to post number 12 to see some screen shots of the display for one of my discs.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1352711
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If you use ITunes, you have to convert the ID tags to be version 1.1 compatible.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Craigster05
If you use ITunes, you have to convert the ID tags to be version 1.1 compatible.
I do not suggest doing that.

It will make it work in your Corvette, but it will screw up all your MP3 tag information by cropping it to a shorter length. And when you have multiple CD albums which have long names and end in DISC1 or DISC2, the Album names get cropped off and all Discs will look like they are the same album. Song titles also will be cut short.

A better solution is to use different software to tag your sounds which allows you to have both ID3V1 tags and ID3V2 tags at the same time. The Corvette will read the ID3v1 tags which are the shortened file names, and most of your audio jukebox software will read the ID3v2 tags rather than ID3v1 tags when both are present.

I like Tag and Rename as it can copy all your ID3v2 tag information to the ID3v1 tags. Both will be present. And as long as you have the "both" tag button clicked, any time you edit tag information in the software it updates both versions of the tags.

http://www.softdepia.com/tag_rename_download_1291.html

I stumbled on this software after wondering why the Vette was missing ID3 tag information on some songs. I opened the song on the computer and the track had the ID3 tag information present in the Jukebox software I was using. So how could certain information be missing when displayed in the Corvette? Well the software was reading the ID3v2 tags, the Vette was reading the ID3v1 tags.

First while trying out different software I had noticed in WINAMP that when you edit the tags it showed both versions of the tags and you could edit both. When opening the track in question, some of the ID3v1 tags were filled out, others were not. Viewing both tags and editing both tags is not available in Musicmatch, Windows Media, or iTunes. It would be too consuming in WINAMP to mass edit the tags or copy from one version to the other. Then I found Tag & Rename.

I use Nero and other software to burn the CD's not iTunes so I am not positive what the outcome is using Tag & Rename, then burning with I-Tunes. My theory is iTunes will try to burn the tracks using the ID3v2 tags hence still messing up the CD?

I could test that out but I am too lazy and refuse to use iTunes because in my opinion it is not the greatest solution. I will say it may be the easiest solution because it is the only self contained program which will do everything for you. And although I do use iTunes on a regular/daily basis, I am not going to destroy the ID3 tags on thousands of songs by cropping them short and losing information which I had spent days verifying for accuracy.

I will never touch a track tag except in Tag & Rename so I can be assured it will fill in both versions of tags so it will work in the Vette and still have complete information when viewed on the PC or on the iPods.

But if you don't have thousands of songs in your library, and you are limited to iTunes, are looking for a simple solution, then I suppose cropping all the songs by converting them all to id3v1 tags may be OK for some of you.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mpuzach
If you used iTunes to burn your MP3 CD, the problem is in all likelihood in the number of characters in either the song title, the artist's name, or the album name. If I recall correctly, 22 characters is the limit; if any line contains more than that, the track will appear to be invisible when you play the disc in the Corvette. To correct the problem, just go into your iTunes file and manually shorten the title(s) / name(s) to 22 or fewer characters. I had exactly the same problem as the one you describe and this is what solved it for me.
In addition, the track number is included in the 22 character limit.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by montivette
I do not suggest doing that.

It will make it work in your Corvette, but it will screw up all your MP3 tag information by cropping it to a shorter length.
I can confirm that using software that allows you to use both versions of the TAG is desireable. I also use Winamp when I play my MP3 files on my PC. Since I always play all my MP3's on my PC before they get burned to a disc, I always put both versions of the TAG on each file. One mouse click while the file is playing will copy the TAG information to both formats so its pretty easy to do. All my MP3's have both versions of the TAG and all my discs display properly on the three of my cars that can play MP3. My three MP3 radios are the Corvette, a Ford factory radio, and an aftermarket Alpine radio in my truck. All 3 radios work a little different from each other BUT I do see all the correct artist and song name information when playing my MP3 discs.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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This happened to me, in my case I use Itunes and when creating or importing the MP3's I had some songs using VBR (Variable Bit Rate Encoding) & some not using it. Only one or the other would be recognized by the player (6 disc in dash unit) but not both. Evidently you can't mix & match VBR/non-VBR on the same MP3 disk. Itunes allowed me to create the disk with all the songs, the player just wouldn't play them.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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when you are looking up your songs, how many folders do you Have? Too many folders will cause some of the songs not to work, i pulled all my songs off the disc i burned, then re burned them with Music Match now all of them play, with less folders.
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