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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Swancoat
Hell no! As long as this works, and I can take advantage of it, I'm a fan of keeping it out of the limelight. Next thing you know EVERYONE will get one, then they either get banned or something else comes along.

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 01:26 AM
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Lazer Shifters not legal in Cali.

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Speeding is illegal too.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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Playing devils advocate here. I drive in NJ a lot of times, and the state troopers use laser a lot. A lot of times my passport doesn't even go off. If the beam is so narrow on a laser gun, and I'm using a mirror mount for my x50, it probably wont even activate the shifter. Another poster noted that it takes 50 milliseconds to get a reading on the gun, not a lot of time to slow down (impossible). Do those in the know think its better to not use the x50 as your main recieving device, and instead use a dedicated laser unit/shifter for better results?

Also, does anyone have any pictures of these installed on a C6? I'd like to see how well it can be hidden on a C6. I'd love to get this system or the blinder system, but I dont want any noticeable "bricks" on the outside of the vette.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 06.Z51.MontRed.Vert
Playing devils advocate here. I drive in NJ a lot of times, and the state troopers use laser a lot. A lot of times my passport doesn't even go off. If the beam is so narrow on a laser gun, and I'm using a mirror mount for my x50, it probably wont even activate the shifter. Another poster noted that it takes 50 milliseconds to get a reading on the gun, not a lot of time to slow down (impossible). Do those in the know think its better to not use the x50 as your main recieving device, and instead use a dedicated laser unit/shifter for better results?

Also, does anyone have any pictures of these installed on a C6? I'd like to see how well it can be hidden on a C6. I'd love to get this system or the blinder system, but I dont want any noticeable "bricks" on the outside of the vette.
Here is where I installed my Blinder M20 units.
Picture has brightness increased so you can actually see the unit behind the front grill: (On the bottom)


Ran some test this weekend to see if it actually worked. But I had a defective unit. Waiting for the replacement to arrive today. Then to the installer, and back to testing again.



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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jmess
Looks like we now have some technology to help reduce taxation without representation.
The problem with statement is that there are more voting citizens that want the speed limits obeyed than there are sports car drivers. So, you actually do have representation. It just so happens that this representation has choosen opposite of your desires by siding with the majority.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by miguel94
Here is where I installed my Blinder M20 units.
Picture has brightness increased so you can actually see the unit behind the front grill: (On the bottom)


Ran some test this weekend to see if it actually worked. But I had a defective unit. Waiting for the replacement to arrive today. Then to the installer, and back to testing again.



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Thats awesome, I can't see the units, perfect!!

Do you happen to have a picture of the rear?
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 06.Z51.MontRed.Vert
Do you guys that have them turn it off when you get a warning, or just keep them on?
On the passport SRX you have a mute button that you mount somewhere (I mounted mine on the driver side of the center console approx where my hand rests). If you get hit by a laser, once you slow down to the correct speed...you hit the mute button and it STOPS shifting...so the cop does not suspect anything and can read your speed which is now at the limit. The same button has several other functions (volume, mute, etc) based on what is going on. It is the only button I touch (never have to reach to the main brain).

Here are some pics of my install from a previous post. I actually ended up moving the front shifters out in front of the grill for better coverage. You still cant see them unless you get down and look for them.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...18&postcount=4
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 06.Z51.MontRed.Vert
Playing devils advocate here. I drive in NJ a lot of times, and the state troopers use laser a lot. A lot of times my passport doesn't even go off. If the beam is so narrow on a laser gun, and I'm using a mirror mount for my x50, it probably wont even activate the shifter. Another poster noted that it takes 50 milliseconds to get a reading on the gun, not a lot of time to slow down (impossible). Do those in the know think its better to not use the x50 as your main recieving device, and instead use a dedicated laser unit/shifter for better results?
If you integrate the radar detector with the Shifter, it merely serves as the threat display panel. It does not control the activation of the Shifter. The Shifter's own laser detectors perform that function. 50 milliseconds is not enough time to slow down, which is why you need the Shifter in the first place. Without it, by the time you react to the threat warning, you're already caught. With it, you have up to a quarter mile to get your speed down while it prevents the lidar from getting a valid reading.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shopdog
If you integrate the radar detector with the Shifter, it merely serves as the threat display panel. It does not control the activation of the Shifter. The Shifter's own laser detectors perform that function. 50 milliseconds is not enough time to slow down, which is why you need the Shifter in the first place. Without it, by the time you react to the threat warning, you're already caught. With it, you have up to a quarter mile to get your speed down while it prevents the lidar from getting a valid reading.
Ok, that makes sense but conflicts some other info posted. Thanks.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
The problem with statement is that there are more voting citizens that want the speed limits obeyed than there are sports car drivers. So, you actually do have representation. It just so happens that this representation has choosen opposite of your desires by siding with the majority.
The way you phrased it, I'm sure what you say is true. The number of sports cars in the US is a tiny percentage of the total number of cars (after all, they don't make the Austin Healey Sprite any more, so actual sports cars are becoming increasingly rare). But there are more high power GTs like the Corvette hitting the streets, as well as muscle cars like the Mustang, and high power sedans of other stripes.

But be that as it may, I'm not sure your basic contention is correct. I don't recall a referendum on speed limits. I do know that the government keeps statistics on how fast people actually drive, and those numbers show that more than 50% of drivers routinely exceed the posted speed limits (the latest numbers I've seen for metro Atlanta show that 64% of vehicles routinely go 10 MPH or more over the posted limit). When I was in school, they taught us that a majority was any number greater than 50%. So I'd have to say that the majority of drivers disagree with your contention.

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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In Los Angeles it's more like 80% are over 15 over
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by shopdog
But be that as it may, I'm not sure your basic contention is correct. I don't recall a referendum on speed limits. I do know that the government keeps statistics on how fast people actually drive, and those numbers show that more than 50% of drivers routinely exceed the posted speed limits (the latest numbers I've seen for metro Atlanta show that 64% of vehicles routinely go 10 MPH or more over the posted limit). When I was in school, they taught us that a majority was any number greater than 50%. So I'd have to say that the majority of drivers disagree with your contention.
You make the assumption that 100% of the driving public = 100% of the voting public. I don't think that is the case. The majority of the voting public could want speed limits obeyed, while concurrently they can remain the minority in the driving public.

Loosing the focus of the thread.

For me.... If I am speeding, I am still within the limit of my driving skills. So I'll take all the help I can get. V1 + Blinder M20 for me.



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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by miguel94
You make the assumption that 100% of the driving public = 100% of the voting public. I don't think that is the case. The majority of the voting public could want speed limits obeyed, while concurrently they can remain the minority in the driving public.
Its true that a small percentage of the driving public is under 18 and thus can't vote. It is also true that a small percentage of the voting public has either had their driving privileges revoked or has never been able to qualify for a driver's license. Neither group is large enough to upset the conclusions I drew, and it is reasonable to believe the two groups offset each other to a large degree.

But there is also a segment of the population who is both eligible to vote and who drive, but choose not to vote, the can't fight city hall crowd. That group is large enough to upset the numbers. There is also a perhaps larger group who do drive and who do vote, but who are hypocrites, the do as I say not as I do crowd.

To my knowledge, speed limits have never been put to a direct vote. So whether those who vote are for or against them are in the majority is a moot point. All we do know for sure is that a majority of drivers vote with their right feet every day, and that vote doesn't support speed limits, at least not the current posted limits.
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I would be all for stricter testing and assesment of driver's ability before issuing any kind of license. The US has to be one of the easiest places in the world to get a DL. I live in Miami, where I think its even easier... seems like $20 bucks buys you one down here. And hence why we have so many bad drivers, traffic, accidents, etc.

But the alternative is even less plausible. So you are left with the option to play by the rules, or stay ahead of the game (Radar detector + Laser Jammer FTW)



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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Hi, I'm in Duluth. Where around here can I get a high end Escort or Bel hidden radar/laser diffuser installed?
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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Hi, I'm in Duluth. Where around here can I get a high end Escort or Bel hidden radar/laser diffuser installed?
Best Buy
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Originally Posted by Lionheart
Hi, I'm in Duluth. Where around here can I get a high end Escort or Bel hidden radar/laser diffuser installed?
Circuit City at the Mall of Georgia is where I bought mine, but I installed it myself (twice, first in my 350Z, then again in my C6). I wouldn't let the kids at Circuit City or Best Buy install anything in a car I care about. If you need a pro install, then take it over to Carsounds in Alpharetta.
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