Third Gear = Neutral!
Melting Slicks
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From: Northcentral, Pennsylvania
St. Jude Donor '09-'11
I had the same problem with 2nd - 3rd. Try relaxing your grip and shift straight up and allow the spring to move it over to 3rd gear. If you muscle it, the shifter hangs up sometimes. I switched to a B&M shifter.
Burning Brakes
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From: Dade City Florida
Originally Posted by maddogbishop
I have an 05 Z51 and it has happened to me twice so far. The first time I figured it was the clutch sticking to the floor because I was at WOT. The second time I checked the clutch pedal and it returned correctly. The condition is exactly as you described-shifter in third, and the car acted as if it was in neutral. Frustrating to say the least.
It has happened to me several times.
Team Owner
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From: Cary IL and Parrish FL
St. Jude Donor '10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17
Where could one buy these B&M shifters? Seems all the dealer sites that B&M Racing suggests stock only mustang or older year car shifters. Please help. Also, is there a pictorial how to install these shifters on the c6?
Thanks
Thanks
Melting Slicks
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From: Southwest Florida
Originally Posted by LloydP
You got reverse position. No danger to the transmission though, a solenoid locks the transmission out of reverse over 3 mph. You can still get the shifter into the reverse position though.
Mike
Melting Slicks
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From: Northcentral, Pennsylvania
St. Jude Donor '09-'11
Originally Posted by HyperX
Where could one buy these B&M shifters? Seems all the dealer sites that B&M Racing suggests stock only mustang or older year car shifters. Please help. Also, is there a pictorial how to install these shifters on the c6?
Thanks
Thanks
Instructions are included in the box. There are other performance shifters on the market, and opinions differ on which is best. You could try a search on this forum.
Team Owner
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From: Cary IL and Parrish FL
St. Jude Donor '10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17
Originally Posted by Wass
Ecklers has them here: http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...dept%5Fid=1888
Instructions are included in the box. There are other performance shifters on the market, and opinions differ on which is best. You could try a search on this forum.
Instructions are included in the box. There are other performance shifters on the market, and opinions differ on which is best. You could try a search on this forum.
Racer
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From: San Diego County CA
Originally Posted by mikeyc6
I can't see how anyone could miss 3rd, go all the way past 5th, and end up so far to the right that you hit reverse. I think more likely you just found a "gap" in the gate and ended up with the stick very close to third but you missed it by just enough that the stick went into the gate but the tranny never engaged the gear. There was a better explanation for this a while back in another thread, but it has happened to others so you are not alone (although I've shifted as fast and as hard as I can shove it and it's never happened to me... yet).
Mike
Mike
According to the tremec service manual (available at http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English/products/T-56.asp) the T56 has all stops internal to the transmission. The shifter has no stops or guides so the shifter should not be the problem. There should be 4 rails in the transmission. In a worn transmission, the shifter ball can jam in between rails. This problem only gets worse and will not go away without a rebuild. These transmissions are new so worn or jamming rails should not be a problem.
Perhaps one of the mechanics on the forum could comment.
You should be able to test this theory by noting the lateral position of the shifter in reverse, then do one of those shifts to get it hung and compare the position of the shifter. I will give it a try the next time I get a chance.
Lloyd
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by TrackNoob
There may not be some authoritative automotive referee we can go to, but I assure you that many people use 'speed' terms loosely, and confusion often occurs, but by POWERSHIFTING, the OP was almost certainly referring to leaving the accelerator at WOT, but still using the clutch.
(Etiology: No lift = power ON = powershift)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ot&btnG=Search
[WOT + clutch]
When me and my bunch have tried to shift without a clutch (esp on cycles), this is almost invariably referred to as SPEEDSHIFTING, and on cars is typically only attempted with straight cut gears, and a blip of the throttle to speed-match various moving parts, not done using WOT. Otherwise is very difficult, and more likely to miss or bind than to actually work, due to hypoid gear, and also synchro drag.
(Etiology: No clutch = two less movements = speedshift)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...t+&btnG=Search
[!WOT + !clutch]
And, before anyone looks, Wikipedia is ambiguous on this, and ought to be corrected.
IMHO.
(Etiology: No lift = power ON = powershift)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ot&btnG=Search
[WOT + clutch]
When me and my bunch have tried to shift without a clutch (esp on cycles), this is almost invariably referred to as SPEEDSHIFTING, and on cars is typically only attempted with straight cut gears, and a blip of the throttle to speed-match various moving parts, not done using WOT. Otherwise is very difficult, and more likely to miss or bind than to actually work, due to hypoid gear, and also synchro drag.
(Etiology: No clutch = two less movements = speedshift)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...t+&btnG=Search
[!WOT + !clutch]
And, before anyone looks, Wikipedia is ambiguous on this, and ought to be corrected.
IMHO.
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Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by Whiterock1
Just the opposite back in the day: powershift=no clutch; speed-fast clutch punch, throttle may or may not be lifted. Never powershifted and always let up on the throttle--very quickly, when speed shifting.
Must...reach...thesaurus....of...elders. .. ugh. Just... can't...reach.... Arrgh.
Okay, whiterock, this time it looks like a draw. I will have to use my secret fingers-in-ears filter to drown out your sinister theories until I can retreat...
Quick, to the Lexicopter....
Last edited by TrackNoob; Oct 10, 2006 at 09:19 PM.
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by TrackNoob
Curses! It appears my arch-nemisis Whiterock has tracked me down to this dimension.
Must...reach...thesaurus....of...elders. .. ugh. Just... can't...reach.... Arrgh.
Okay, whiterock, this time it looks like a draw. I will have to use my secret fingers-in-ears filter to drown out your sinister theories until I can retreat...
Quick, to the Lexicopter....
Must...reach...thesaurus....of...elders. .. ugh. Just... can't...reach.... Arrgh.
Okay, whiterock, this time it looks like a draw. I will have to use my secret fingers-in-ears filter to drown out your sinister theories until I can retreat...
Quick, to the Lexicopter....
