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Is there any way to change the paddle shifter so that I can press down to down shift and pull up to up shift? I ride a motorcycle as well and I find this whole backwards shift feature frustrating.
No way that GM has documented & told us about. Don't think I've seen a thread on this before. It could possibly be done, I suppose, but there doesn't seem to be much demand for it.
No way that GM has documented & told us about. Don't think I've seen a thread on this before. It could possibly be done, I suppose, but there doesn't seem to be much demand for it.
Well let me be the first, I "demand" it...
I try to use the Paddles as much as possible and I still find myself pulling back on the paddle to upshift. It has a lot to do with riding a motorcycle. Your hand just wants to pull back (like on the clutch lever) or your foot wants to Pull up on the toe and then just Push down to drop the gears down. If it's a switch, then maybe it's just 2 little wires, cut and reverse...
Is there any way to change the paddle shifter so that I can press down to down shift and pull up to up shift? I ride a motorcycle as well and I find this whole backwards shift feature frustrating.
It ain't no motorcycle. The Engineers studied this arrangement in great detail and found that this was the ergonomic way to do it. Suits me.
I just wish the paddles where larger, up and down shift.....damn my meaty man paws. I almost pulled the wheel outta the column thinking I was down shifting...
It ain't no motorcycle. The Engineers studied this arrangement in great detail and found that this was the ergonomic way to do it. Suits me.
I have to agree with Velocty on this. I don't care if GM's engineers wear their watches on their right wrists and squeeze their toothpaste tubes from the ends. For me the most natural way to upshift under heavy acceleration is to "squeeze the wheel", which is of course the exact opposite of the way GM's engineers have designed the switches.
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I have to agree with Velocty on this. I don't care if GM's engineers wear their watches on their right wrists and squeeze their toothpaste tubes from the ends. For me the most natural way to upshift under heavy acceleration is to "squeeze the wheel", which is of course the exact opposite of the way GM's engineers have designed the switches.
Hmmm...not sure what the shifter(s) looks like off the car, but would it be possible to just remove it and flip it over? Is it a ring that goes around the column?
I pulled up the schematics of the paddle shifters and up/down can be reversed - kind of. Battery voltage is supplied through a 4.4k ohm resistor for the up shift and a 1.5k ohm resistor for the down shift. The only wires that can be changed, go from the right paddle to the left paddle. If the tan and purple wires from the right paddle are reversed then the right paddle will then up-shift with a pull and down-shift with a push. But the left paddle with still operate normaly (personally I like that idea anyway, pull the right paddle to up-shift and pull the left paddle to down-shift, I think that's like the F1 cars). To change the left paddle it would have to be disassembled to even see if it can be changed internally (the resistors are in the left paddle switch). I don't have access to one to try this on. But if I did I would like to change that too.
I pulled up the schematics of the paddle shifters and up/down can be reversed - kind of. Battery voltage is supplied through a 4.4k ohm resistor for the up shift and a 1.5k ohm resistor for the down shift. The only wires that can be changed, go from the right paddle to the left paddle. If the tan and purple wires from the right paddle are reversed then the right paddle will then up-shift with a pull and down-shift with a push. But the left paddle with still operate normaly (personally I like that idea anyway, pull the right paddle to up-shift and pull the left paddle to down-shift, I think that's like the F1 cars). To change the left paddle it would have to be disassembled to even see if it can be changed internally (the resistors are in the left paddle switch). I don't have access to one to try this on. But if I did I would like to change that too.
Fantastic! That's exactly the way I want them to work -- pull on right paddle to up-shift and pull on left to down-shift. Plus you can still use the top thumb paddles, if needed.
It ain't no motorcycle. The Engineers studied this arrangement in great detail and found that this was the ergonomic way to do it. Suits me.
I was surprised that the shifters are 'backwards', and I don't see the 'ergonomics'.
When you accelerate your car, you are thrown back in your seat.
This makes pulling for upshift more sensible.
When you slow down, the momentum pushes you forward, making pushing more sensible for downshifting.
This is the way my daughter's Mini Cooper is, and seems more natural to me.
Of course with time either way can be learned.
My next Corvette will be paddle, and I'm hoping this will be solved by then.
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Originally Posted by mhorn
Is there any way to change the paddle shifter so that I can press down to down shift and pull up to up shift? I ride a motorcycle as well and I find this whole backwards shift feature frustrating.
I agree....hit the rev limiter many times by accident.
C'mon guys FIX IT!! Also GM mess up with the shifters on the wheel They should be off the column like the Ferrari. Makes shifting while steering a bit easier
If you implement this mod, make sure you can reverse it easily or document it when you sell the car because there's probably a good amount of liability that can go along with doing this.
actually making the shifters more natural would make less liability. After all grabing a shift and expecting to be pushed backwards and having you head hit the steering wheel instead is more dangerous. (downshifted instead) But I agree with Black 04
actually making the shifters more natural would make less liability. After all grabing a shift and expecting to be pushed backwards and having you head hit the steering wheel instead is more dangerous. (downshifted instead) But I agree with Black 04
If you leave the car in stock condition, then any liability falls on GM.
If you change things, then the liability falls on you.
C'mon guys FIX IT!! Also GM mess up with the shifters on the wheel They should be off the column like the Ferrari. Makes shifting while steering a bit easier
Yes, trying to find that tiny upshift paddle while unwinding the wheel as you power out of a tight corner is a major PITA. If nothing else, the upshift paddles should be bigger.
Yes, trying to find that tiny upshift paddle while unwinding the wheel as you power out of a tight corner is a major PITA. If nothing else, the upshift paddles should be bigger.
I saw a poll a few years back on a BMW site where the voters split fairly equally between preference for wheel and column mounted paddles.
Also don't forget that most of these systems allow you to shift with a nudge of the console shifter, so it might more approximate a manuals ergonomics during your unwinding wheel problem.