Quality Control ?
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Quality Control ?
Hmm, Just got my 2007 up on my lift .
Notice anything funny ?
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...3smallbolt.jpg
And , there is NO insert for the bolt to go into.
Notice anything funny ?
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...3smallbolt.jpg
And , there is NO insert for the bolt to go into.
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St. Jude Donor '15
"In honor of jpee"
at the end of the line, in the "test and qc area" 
, the guy who got in to start the car had a dangling cig in his mouth with an even lonhger ash (than the cig unburned). when he got out, the ash no longer existed but the cig was still in his mouth and hadn't been removed.
i wonder if he has a blanket soaked in......
, the guy who got in to start the car had a dangling cig in his mouth with an even lonhger ash (than the cig unburned). when he got out, the ash no longer existed but the cig was still in his mouth and hadn't been removed.i wonder if he has a blanket soaked in......
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Wow, that's different. Unfortunately you have just been introduced to the wonderful world of mass production and time constraints. The Corvette Assembly plant is just that, an assembly plant. They take a collection of parts from all over the globe and assemble them into a Corvette. Parts are "sampled" as they arrive using statistical sampling methods and assumptions are made about overall quality of the lot based on the results of those samples. The plant operates on a JIT basis and truckloads of parts come in daily. Congratulations, in NCRS circles you have a rare Corvette now that you have documented this as "as received" from the plant. 
Even more sad is the fact that this was probably spotted on the line and passed as a "non-critical" defect. The absence of one bolt in the tunnel plate is not really a big deal in the performance of the car in 99.9% of all driving applications. I would imagine however that by the time it was spotted it may have been too late and the car would have needed a major tear-down to get to the mating part and replace it. It is likely that this was decided to be a minor defect and sent on its way rather than remake the entire car over it.
Paul
Even more sad is the fact that this was probably spotted on the line and passed as a "non-critical" defect. The absence of one bolt in the tunnel plate is not really a big deal in the performance of the car in 99.9% of all driving applications. I would imagine however that by the time it was spotted it may have been too late and the car would have needed a major tear-down to get to the mating part and replace it. It is likely that this was decided to be a minor defect and sent on its way rather than remake the entire car over it.
Paul
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Wow, that's different. Unfortunately you have just been introduced to the wonderful world of mass production and time constraints. The Corvette Assembly plant is just that, an assembly plant. They take a collection of parts from all over the globe and assemble them into a Corvette. Parts are "sampled" as they arrive using statistical sampling methods and assumptions are made about overall quality of the lot based on the results of those samples. The plant operates on a JIT basis and truckloads of parts come in daily. Congratulations, in NCRS circles you have a rare Corvette now that you have documented this as "as received" from the plant.
Even more sad is the fact that this was probably spotted on the line and passed as a "non-critical" defect. The absence of one bolt in the tunnel plate is not really a big deal in the performance of the car in 99.9% of all driving applications. I would imagine however that by the time it was spotted it may have been too late and the car would have needed a major tear-down to get to the mating part and replace it. It is likely that this was decided to be a minor defect and sent on its way rather than remake the entire car over it.
Paul
Even more sad is the fact that this was probably spotted on the line and passed as a "non-critical" defect. The absence of one bolt in the tunnel plate is not really a big deal in the performance of the car in 99.9% of all driving applications. I would imagine however that by the time it was spotted it may have been too late and the car would have needed a major tear-down to get to the mating part and replace it. It is likely that this was decided to be a minor defect and sent on its way rather than remake the entire car over it.
Paul
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what do you expect for one hundred grand or so plus benefits and pension a year? You want a pickle on your burger at the fast food place and they make minimum wage.....there is generally a pickle on the burger cause if they miss it they will be fired.
But you can't fire these union people. Another thread recently showed a bell housing bolt backed nearly all the way out on a brand new vette....and off and on lots of other defects get through.
I have a background in QA and can tell you that missing tunnel bolts are not trivial 'cause they are so easy to spot. It sends a scary message that if they can miss something in plain sight what was missed that's difficult to see and inspect?
When you pay people at least four times what the prevailing wage rate is for similar or identical work, give them gold plated benefits, gold plated pension, and near complete freedom from being dismissed for poor work......what do you expect?
It's come to this. And from this it goes offshore. First the engine, then the transmission, perhaps the frame rails, then this and then that and it not only gets made much more inexpensively it comes back with much higher quality too. Why? Because the workers value their jobs and don't take them for granted.
just my opinions. y'all check your bell housing bolts y'hear?
But you can't fire these union people. Another thread recently showed a bell housing bolt backed nearly all the way out on a brand new vette....and off and on lots of other defects get through.
I have a background in QA and can tell you that missing tunnel bolts are not trivial 'cause they are so easy to spot. It sends a scary message that if they can miss something in plain sight what was missed that's difficult to see and inspect?
When you pay people at least four times what the prevailing wage rate is for similar or identical work, give them gold plated benefits, gold plated pension, and near complete freedom from being dismissed for poor work......what do you expect?
It's come to this. And from this it goes offshore. First the engine, then the transmission, perhaps the frame rails, then this and then that and it not only gets made much more inexpensively it comes back with much higher quality too. Why? Because the workers value their jobs and don't take them for granted.
just my opinions. y'all check your bell housing bolts y'hear?
