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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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My dealer manager tells me he attended a GM briefing and he hinted that the C7 in mid 09 will be mid-engine. Yikes!

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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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My dealer manager tells me he attended a GM briefing and he hinted that the C7 in mid 09 will be mid-engine. Yikes!

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That's only because it was recently published in a magazine (exact wording and year) which tells me it is bull. Don't expect the C7 in '09. There were quite a few threads on this a couple of weeks ago.

The mid-engine rumor has been around for years and has yet to come to pass. I don't expect it to be on the next Corvette either.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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That's only because it was recently published in a magazine (exact wording and year) which tells me it is bull. Don't expect the C7 in '09. There were quite a few threads on this a couple of weeks ago.

The mid-engine rumor has been around for years and has yet to come to pass. I don't expect it to be on the next Corvette either.
Nobody thought they would change from LS2 to LS3 so fast either. This market is very competitive. I would not be surprized if the C7 is mid-engine.
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Automobile magazine suggested that it would be mid-engine. I certainly hope this is not the case.

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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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My dealer principle was very convinced it would be mid engine. GM wants to go "up-scale" in their thinking and create new excitement for the car. He was briefed it would be a mid 09 launch for the mid engine car as a 2010 model.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Irrational exuberance. But let's hope the General proves me wrong!
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pit-pony
My dealer principle was very convinced it would be mid engine. GM wants to go "up-scale" in their thinking and create new excitement for the car. He was briefed it would be a mid 09 launch for the mid engine car as a 2010 model.
They made some big changes for 2008 and a lot of us are dumping our current C6 to have the latest and greatest. I suspect this will happen again with a new mid-engine model. Good marketing since it is the enthusiast crowd that keeps wanting the newest model and we will drop lots of money to make it this way.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by V Amazed
Automobile magazine suggested that it would be mid-engine. I certainly hope this is not the case.

Ben
Oh, there's the paragon of Automotive prognostication for you. I can recall stories and magazine articles about a mid-engined Corvette since the late 60's. Given the current - and long-standing - succesful configuration, I can't see any reason why GM needs to make the Corvette mid-engined. If they were trying to emulate Ferrari (as they have done with other things over the years) they would have gone to a mid-engined configuration 20 years ago, if not sooner.

The real advantage of a mid-engined design is pretty much only realized on the race track. Having owned at least a couple mid-engined cars during my driving lifetime, I would just as soon GM keeps the current front-engined design, at least for a while longer. I can't see any advantages in terms of regular daily use. Besides, a mid-engined car with Corvette HP could have the GM legal department and their product liability attorneys laying awake all night.

Finally, if mid-engine was the way to go, why did they discontinue the Pontiac Fiero?
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If they made something that looks like this at a fraction of the cost, I'd buy it! Plus I get the GM discount! LOL

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Some of these threads say the C7 will be a mid-engine car. Take your pick.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1742967

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1743400

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1743476

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1744183

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1744571

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1560888339

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1756831

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1762205
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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lets hope cost doesn't get in the way of a possible mid-engine C7
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom_Slick
If they made something that looks like this at a fraction of the cost, I'd buy it! Plus I get the GM discount! LOL

Well, maybe, but I'll bet if GM does something like this in a production version, it will no longer be the great value we enjoy in our cars today.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Rest assured that I would NOT purchase one of the mid engine cars for several years after initial production. Let the problems begin.

Remember back in the 80's when Pontiac came out with their mid engine sports car.

There, got my 2 cents in.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Hey, I had a Fiero GT. It was a great little car. I think the C8 will be a mid-motored car.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Despite tradition and the virtually perfect weight distribution of the C6, I wouldn't be surprised to see a mid-engine C7. From a marketing innovation perspective, it makes sense. If the styling and performance were right, it might just be the most awesome Corvette ever. I'd look at it with an open mind.

If the C7 is mid-engine, that will cement my decision to keep my C6 when I buy the C7.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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As I mentioned before, it is a possiblity when you compare car dimensions. The Corvette can be easily be transformed into a midengine due to its wheelbase. Heres chart I made showing various car dimensions.



Lets take note that GM will soon be releasing the Camaro, which will most probably come with a V6 and V8 powerplants and diffrent model range convertible hardtop, SS/RS.

With that said once the camaro is released it will probably be using the LS3 engine producing 436 HP and an SS or RS using an LS7 powerplant.

With that being said, many customers would think why should I buy a more expensive Corvette when I can have the same power, and more room in a Camaro and it would cost cheaper then a Corvette.

Perhaps GM intention is to stop this comparison by moving the Corvette more upstream, with the base Corvette being a 505HP and the top of the line Corvette being a mid-engined beast.

Thats my $0.02

If my memory is correct, there was a time when GM wanted to remove the Corvette from the Chevy banner and making the Corvette a division by itself.

It's anyones guess what GM is mapping out for Corvettes future.
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Originally Posted by last901
If they were trying to emulate Ferrari (as they have done with other things over the years) they would have gone to a mid-engined configuration 20 years ago, if not sooner.
...and back to front-engined about 12 years ago. All of Ferrari's GT cars have had the engine up front for over a decade now.
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Originally Posted by John_R
As I mentioned before, it is a possiblity when you compare car dimensions. The Corvette can be easily be transformed into a midengine due to its wheelbase. Heres chart I made showing various car dimensions.



Lets take note that GM will soon be releasing the Camaro, which will most probably come with a V6 and V8 powerplants and diffrent model range convertible hardtop, SS/RS.

With that said once the camaro is released it will probably be using the LS3 engine producing 436 HP and an SS or RS using an LS7 powerplant.

With that being said, many customers would think why should I buy a more expensive Corvette when I can have the same power, and more room in a Camaro and it would cost cheaper then a Corvette.

Perhaps GM intention is to stop this comparison by moving the Corvette more upstream, with the base Corvette being a 505HP and the top of the line Corvette being a mid-engined beast.

Thats my $0.02

If my memory is correct, there was a time when GM wanted to remove the Corvette from the Chevy banner and making the Corvette a division by itself.

It's anyones guess what GM is mapping out for Corvettes future.
Not a bad analysis, but I supect GM will do only what it feels it needs to do to make the new Camaro competitive with the Mustang. Isn't it interesting, given that, that GM discontinued the F-Body cars (I think that's what the Camaro and firebird were called in GM jargon) only to return to the market place. As you say, who knows what GM will do?

Frankly, I don't think withthe current regime in place, GM will do anything that puts them at further risk of losing more market share. The scenario re the Camaro with the LS3, vis-a-vis the Corvette in the marketplace, makes sense, but I don't trust the mental giants at GM product planning to do anything that radical.

If anything they will find yet another way to compete with themselves and offer products like the Solstice and the Saturn Sky.

BTW, seems to me I read many years ago that GM was considering moving the Corvette to the Oldsmobile division to give Olds more performance image and to move the Corvette upstream into a higher price bracket.
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There is no doubt, after my discussion today with the DP that the mid engine is on the books. Will it slip a year I don't know but mid 09 looks feasible.

You don't need too much more power to be exotic and a mid engine redesigned Corvette will certainly compete in that category.

I suspect however that once the Camero is here and the C7 is unveiled, the price would be up by a good 10-15K at least.

Will it sell, hell yes.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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