Fobless?
Burning Brakes
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.. hehe I didnt think i would have to explain the obviousproblem..1 front 2 pockets are BOTH at same place therefore same problem on both sides. even worse with seat belt pressing.
problem 2.. back pockets should be obvious, but looks like i have to explain that. You SIT on them when driving.. VERY uncomfortable and can break.
problem 3. thats tiny little pocket within the front.. even worse.. very difficult to get in and VERY tight. basically useless.
the whole point is i can see how the OP can leave/ forget about the fob
(what does FOB stand for anyway?)
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problem 2.. back pockets should be obvious, but looks like i have to explain that. You SIT on them when driving.. VERY uncomfortable and can break.
problem 3. thats tiny little pocket within the front.. even worse.. very difficult to get in and VERY tight. basically useless.
the whole point is i can see how the OP can leave/ forget about the fob
(what does FOB stand for anyway?)
(what does FOB stand for anyway?)
When not capitalized, fob is a word. Here's what Webster says:
"fob
noun
Etymology: perhaps akin to German dialect Fuppe pocket
1 : WATCH POCKET
2 : a short strap, ribbon, or chain attached especially to a pocket watch
3 : an ornament attached to a fob chain"
Here's what Wikipedia says about a key fob:
"A key fob is a type of security token: a small hardware device with built-in authentication mechanisms."
Note that traditionally a fob is associated with pocket watches. Hence, keeping one in the watch pocket of your jeans makes perfect sense.
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How about you go out with the fob and start the car. Then aliens teleport you through the window to the Mothership where they remove your clothes including the fob on the chain around your neck and do a complete exam. They then return you naked to the car 3 hours later. You have forgotten everything and drive off. When you arrive at your destination and try to shut the car off you get the message that you have no fob and you can choose to either permanently shut it off or you can restart in less than 5 minutes. Wouldn't it seem reasonable to restart immediately?
As I've learned from many years experience designing equipment, nothing is foolproof because fools are so darned ingenious.
As I've learned from many years experience designing equipment, nothing is foolproof because fools are so darned ingenious.
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First let me say, I NEVER valet. But then it happened. I was on a date with my lady friend Laura. It was her birthday. She wanted to go to this fancy hotel for a drink. I thought YES! We pulled up to the place and the valet attendeant runs up. I asked where self parking was. He said there was no self parking. I thought to myself "insist on leaving and blow my chance with Laura" or "take a chance that the valet dude is trustworthy". I took option number 2. But, when we got out of the Vette, I left it running but forgot to leave the fob in the car. The valet dude drives off and parks the Vette. When we were ready to leave, the valet dude came back and said the car won't start. AHA! Because he did not have the fob! The moral of the story is; no need to leave the fob with the valet attendant! However I'll probably never valet again so I guess this is all useless information. 
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What happens if you start the car with the fob in your pocket, then stop the car, get out, drop the fob on the floor, get back in (car is still running), and drive off. This is all possible. True?
Then when you get where you're going, you stop the car, turn off the engine, and get out. When you later try to get back in, you're screwed ..... you lost your fob and no way to get home.
Isn't this scenerio possible? Just curious...
Steve
Then when you get where you're going, you stop the car, turn off the engine, and get out. When you later try to get back in, you're screwed ..... you lost your fob and no way to get home.
Isn't this scenerio possible? Just curious...
Steve
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First let me say, I NEVER valet. But then it happened. I was on a date with my lady friend Laura. It was her birthday. She wanted to go to this fancy hotel for a drink. I thought YES! We pulled up to the place and the valet attendeant runs up. I asked where self parking was. He said there was no self parking. I thought to myself "insist on leaving and blow my chance with Laura" or "take a chance that the valet dude is trustworthy". I took option number 2. But, when we got out of the Vette, I left it running but forgot to leave the fob in the car. The valet dude drives off and parks the Vette. When we were ready to leave, the valet dude came back and said the car won't start. AHA! Because he did not have the fob! The moral of the story is; no need to leave the fob with the valet attendant! However I'll probably never valet again so I guess this is all useless information.
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I just picked up my 2008 convertible yesterday and had some of the same concerns about the fob.
My thought is to have an extra key made (and carry it in my wallet) so I can open the rear without a fob. Then buy an extra fob and leave it hidden in the car but remove the battery from it (it won’t be good for anything then) and then hide/store the battery separate form the fob. That way if I ever lose the fob I can still open the car, install the battery in the extra fob, and I’m good to go…………. Sounds logical to me but there may be some flaws in my logic.
My thought is to have an extra key made (and carry it in my wallet) so I can open the rear without a fob. Then buy an extra fob and leave it hidden in the car but remove the battery from it (it won’t be good for anything then) and then hide/store the battery separate form the fob. That way if I ever lose the fob I can still open the car, install the battery in the extra fob, and I’m good to go…………. Sounds logical to me but there may be some flaws in my logic.
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Paul, I've not tried it, but the owner's manual says it actually shuts the engine off before you get the error message on the DIC. Then you have 5 minutes to start it again or you can hit the OFF button again.
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No...though I could see how it could happen. I have done the following though:
1) Started car
2) Moved it
3) Unlocked doors, and got out to do something (in my driveway)
4) Got back in
5) Drove away
6) Something in my pocket pushes the 'open door' button and the door flys open...thats always fun!
1) Started car
2) Moved it
3) Unlocked doors, and got out to do something (in my driveway)
4) Got back in
5) Drove away
6) Something in my pocket pushes the 'open door' button and the door flys open...thats always fun!
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If a fob in the front pocket presses on your hip, you have the jeans on backwards.
Yep, that's why I said don't carry the fob in your hip pockets.
Yes, the watch pocket is tight. That's good, you won't be tempted to remove the fob.
FOB is an acronym for Freight On Board. It is a shipping term.
When not capitalized, fob is a word. Here's what Webster says:
"fob
noun
Etymology: perhaps akin to German dialect Fuppe pocket
1 : WATCH POCKET
2 : a short strap, ribbon, or chain attached especially to a pocket watch
3 : an ornament attached to a fob chain"
Here's what Wikipedia says about a key fob:
"A key fob is a type of security token: a small hardware device with built-in authentication mechanisms."
Note that traditionally a fob is associated with pocket watches. Hence, keeping one in the watch pocket of your jeans makes perfect sense.
Yep, that's why I said don't carry the fob in your hip pockets.
Yes, the watch pocket is tight. That's good, you won't be tempted to remove the fob.
FOB is an acronym for Freight On Board. It is a shipping term.
When not capitalized, fob is a word. Here's what Webster says:
"fob
noun
Etymology: perhaps akin to German dialect Fuppe pocket
1 : WATCH POCKET
2 : a short strap, ribbon, or chain attached especially to a pocket watch
3 : an ornament attached to a fob chain"
Here's what Wikipedia says about a key fob:
"A key fob is a type of security token: a small hardware device with built-in authentication mechanisms."
Note that traditionally a fob is associated with pocket watches. Hence, keeping one in the watch pocket of your jeans makes perfect sense.
my front pockets on my jeans they go almost to my sides, (im skinny)
so when sitting it "drops" to hip area where its tight. (isn't it trendy now to wear jeans backwards??)
the fob wont fit in MY watch pocket its too small
thanks for "fob" info.. I think Wickapedia's definition is more accurate in these times.
really, almost anything in my pockets gets uncomfortable after awhile. The seats are just sooo nice and fit me like a glove
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Now the car has logic that prevents that button, or the one on the dash, from opening the hatch while driving. But it can happen while you are getting in or out of the car. The car won't warn you that the hatch isn't latched when you drive off.
After it happened to me, I've gotten in the habit of checking the hatch in the mirror before driving off, and glancing at it when I walk away from the car after parking.
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What happens if you start the car with the fob in your pocket, then stop the car, get out, drop the fob on the floor, get back in (car is still running), and drive off. This is all possible. True?
Then when you get where you're going, you stop the car, turn off the engine, and get out. When you later try to get back in, you're screwed ..... you lost your fob and no way to get home.
Isn't this scenerio possible? Just curious...
Steve
Then when you get where you're going, you stop the car, turn off the engine, and get out. When you later try to get back in, you're screwed ..... you lost your fob and no way to get home.
Isn't this scenerio possible? Just curious...
Steve
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07-'10
Yep, you're right (as usual) Jim
. It's been a while since I tried it. I just went and looked at the '05 owners manual and found this:NO FOB - OFF OR RUN?: This message is displayed
and a chime will sound when you turn off the engine,
but the vehicle does not detect a keyless access
transmitter in the vehicle. The vehicle will remain in
ACCESSORY until OFF or START has been pressed or
five minutes has expired. If you select OFF, the
vehicle cannot be started again without a keyless access
transmitter in the vehicle.
It at least looks like you have 5 minutes to remedy your mistake.