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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Sorry to contradict but the fact is the paint leaves the factory about 85% cured. It is a good idea to wait 30 days before any wax or sealant is put on it.

Before the question is asked, the reason the manual doesn't state this is because the clear coat on the Corvette does not require wax or polish to look good or stay protected. You should wait and let it fully cure. The car will usually have 10 to 14 days of curing when it arrives at the dealership.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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This has turned out to be a good post... Ive gotten a lot of good info.

It seems as if I will have to wait a bit before putting a good coat of Wax on

Thanks for all the help
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by talon90
Why? Who wouldn't want the lowest paid lot boy with the dirty sponge detailing and prepping their car?
My dealer has a great guy that washes Corvettes and even uses a clean bucket!
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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I agree with Talon 90. It takes a couple months for the clear coat to harden. I would wait just to be sure.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 05:21 AM
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OK, what would be the consequence of applying a protective polymer type of "wax", like Meguiars NXT, to a new Corvette factory paint job?

Has anyone actually seen some sort of problem emerge? Could you describe what you saw?
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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This question comes up from time to time. I am by no means an expert, however, I haven't seen anyone damage a C6 surface because they waxed it "too early". Plus, I think there's actually two issues here. The technical "curing" time may not be related to whether waxing will hurt it. I gotta believe that if you could, GM would say so since they own the warranty. As I recall from my museum delivery I watched the guy waxing cars that were going into the museum for next day delivery. If it concerns you, I'd wait. If not, I think you'll be fine. Just my .02 cents worth, good luck and enjoy!

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I would never let a dealer wash my car...
Or wax it.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by timd38
My dealer has a great guy that washes Corvettes and even uses a clean bucket!
But uses the wash mitt he just used on the muddy 4 x 4 or uses a stiff bristle brush.
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Originally Posted by foremaw
This question comes up from time to time. I am by no means an expert, however, I haven't seen anyone damage a C6 surface because they waxed it "too early". Plus, I think there's actually two issues here. The technical "curing" time may not be related to whether waxing will hurt it. I gotta believe that if you could, GM would say so since they own the warranty. As I recall from my museum delivery I watched the guy waxing cars that were going into the museum for next day delivery. If it concerns you, I'd wait. If not, I think you'll be fine. Just my .02 cents worth, good luck and enjoy!
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OK, what would be the consequence of applying a protective polymer type of "wax", like Meguiars NXT, to a new Corvette factory paint job?

Has anyone actually seen some sort of problem emerge? Could you describe what you saw?

GM is not concerned about surface treatments as the vast majority of cars built are delivered to dealerships, the majority of those cars are purchased for dealer stock. The reality is that most will sit on lots exposed to the elements and be fully cured long before anyone brings them home.

The owners manual has simple guidelines for finish care, notice they do not recommend but rather acknowledge that it may be necessary from time to time. They also offer caution against using any type of abrasive wax or polish on the surface:

Finish Care

Occasional waxing or mild polishing of your vehicle by
hand may be necessary to remove residue from the
paint finish. You can get approved cleaning products
from your dealer/retailer. See Vehicle Care/Appearance
Materials on page 5-94.

If your vehicle has a base coat/clear coat paint finish,
the clear coat gives more depth and gloss to the colored
base coat. Always use waxes and polishes that are
non-abrasive and made for a base coat/clear coat
paint finish.

Notice: Machine compounding or aggressive
polishing on a base coat/clear coat paint finish may
damage it. Use only non-abrasive waxes and
polishes that are made for a base coat/clear coat
paint finish on your vehicle.
Regarding not waiting, the only possible "damage" are fine scratches or swirls that could occur, will they, not necessarily. The paint will continue to cross link over time until it is fully cured.

The sealants like Zaino and Rejex contain no abrasives so they will not scratch or swirl the clear it is the rag or method of application that can do minor surface damage. The polish or sealant itself will simply retard the curing process further.

The NCM does not "wax" they simply spray on a C-Magic detail spray which is the equivalent of a Z6 gloss enhancer from Zaino or a Meguiars quick detail spray.

The clear coat that is on the Corvette is actually one of the hardest in the industry and is very resistant to damage from the sun and the elements. The hardness however contributes to the surface brittleness which is what contributes to micro swirls and scratches. There are however always minor peaks and valleys that prevent that wet like shine that we've become accustomed to when adding a Zaino, Rejex or other surface treatment. These treatments fill in these minor imperfections and allow a better light reflection and "gloss".

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Originally Posted by Cool Rod
OK, what would be the consequence of applying a protective polymer type of "wax", like Meguiars NXT, to a new Corvette factory paint job?

Has anyone actually seen some sort of problem emerge? Could you describe what you saw?

The vast majority of today's wax's, Meguiars, Mothers, Zymol, Zaino, etc. are all non-abrasive, some synthetic, and will not harm the clear coat. Although the C-Magic applyed at the NCM is a detailer, it still has a wax component, enhancers and bonding agents. They (GM) don't have a problem with applying this product to the new paint.

There are folks that polish their car at the museum right after delivery. Some wait a day or two, some wait a month. I haven't heard or read from anyone that said their paint (clear) was scratched or damaged because it was waxed to early.

Here's what the folks at the NCM told me. "We suggest not to wax for 30 days, but if you use a non abrasive, clear coat safe, wax or polish it's okay to wax it. Don't be overly aggresive (high speed buffer, etc) and use a good product."

Most car's, whether NCM or dealer delivered, have been exposed for nearly 3 weeks.

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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by VettinFan
The vast majority of today's wax's, Meguiars, Mothers, Zymol, Zaino, etc. are all non-abrasive, some synthetic, and will not harm the clear coat. Although the C-Magic applyed at the NCM is a detailer, it still has a wax component, enhancers and bonding agents. They (GM) don't have a problem with applying this product to the new paint.
There are folks that polish their car at the museum right after delivery. Some wait a day or two, some wait a month. I haven't heard or read from anyone that said their paint (clear) was scratched or damaged because it was waxed to early.

Here's what the folks at the NCM told me. "We suggest not to wax for 30 days, but if you use a non abrasive, clear coat safe, wax or polish it's okay to wax it. Don't be overly aggresive (high speed buffer, etc) and use a good product."

Most car's, whether NCM or dealer delivered, have been exposed for nearly 3 weeks.

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Just a minor correction to your statement above that

They (GM) don't have a problem with applying this product to the new paint.

The NCM is not in any way affiliated with General Motors. They are an independant not for profit orgainzation.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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Picked my car up at the museum and they told me they had put a coat of C-Magic detailing spray on it. Also informed me that I could wax it with C-Magic wax as soon as I got it home - and I did!! Looks TERRIFIC.
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