ENGINE BlOWN?????????? HELP????
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my pride is hurt
Well. I bid farewell to my vette today ..Dont know what the future holds, but it sure stings seeing your dream car being taken away on stretcher with pool of blood (oil) where it used to lie. I love my car but I feel like telling them to keep the damn thing and put me in an 08. Wonder what the possibility of that is. Oh well ... It is what it is
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I had this problem, but I noticed the noise and had it at the dealership before any catastrophic damage. In most cases, there is no significant damage and it can be repaired.
But, fan-belts flying around the engine compartment at high speed can do a number on hoses and really cause a mess.
Good Luck!
But, fan-belts flying around the engine compartment at high speed can do a number on hoses and really cause a mess.
Good Luck!
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My August 2005 had the same problem during a dyno tune. I ended up buying a forged rebuild of my block to 408 CID. I did not want to mess around with a stock engine (warranty) , and the car was supercharged.
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The dealer is stating my warranty has been out for 3 months
But he said at the moment they are treating as a warranty issue.. I havent even made my first f$ckin car payment. They are having it towed in a couple of hours for free. So far we are off to a good start. Ill keep everyone posted on the progress. This sucks. 
Is there any way to see how hard i was driving it? The Onstar is not being paid for. Also, the engine seems ok at the moment, Its just the crank bolt thats wobbling and making noise..Would this cause oil to leak out??
But he said at the moment they are treating as a warranty issue.. I havent even made my first f$ckin car payment. They are having it towed in a couple of hours for free. So far we are off to a good start. Ill keep everyone posted on the progress. This sucks. Is there any way to see how hard i was driving it? The Onstar is not being paid for. Also, the engine seems ok at the moment, Its just the crank bolt thats wobbling and making noise..Would this cause oil to leak out??
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If they are going to have my car torn apart I almost feel like buying performance parts and puttin mods on AHAHAHAH Im not sure how that would look to the managers out there though
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I would think the black box in the car would know.
Plus, you've shared on a very public internet that Corey from Tulsa with an 05 vette was driving his car hard when the crank pulley came loose. Wouldn't be too hard for your local dealer to put 2 and 2 together.
Careful what you share on the forum...
Plus, you've shared on a very public internet that Corey from Tulsa with an 05 vette was driving his car hard when the crank pulley came loose. Wouldn't be too hard for your local dealer to put 2 and 2 together.
Careful what you share on the forum...
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I would think the black box in the car would know.
Plus, you've shared on a very public internet that Corey from Tulsa with an 05 vette was driving his car hard when the crank pulley came loose. Wouldn't be too hard for your local dealer to put 2 and 2 together.
Careful what you share on the forum...
Plus, you've shared on a very public internet that Corey from Tulsa with an 05 vette was driving his car hard when the crank pulley came loose. Wouldn't be too hard for your local dealer to put 2 and 2 together.
Careful what you share on the forum...
YEP! Likely some user error there as well. Good luck with your repair. Sounds like you have deep pockets. Or atleast a big limit on your VISA.... priceless!
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I agree the engine shouldn't break, but we live in an age where some dealer's will reject a warranty claim for a failed connecting rod just because an aftermarket header was bolted on prior to the failure.
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IMO it shouldnt matter that i was pushing the car a little. I wasnt over revving the engine or anything. Simply using a little of the cars potential.. What is the purpose of buying a 50k car with 400+hp only never to get the tach above 3k rpm. This is completely irrevelant imo.Car has never been tracked etc. This is a mechanical defect that should be fixed by the dealer no matter what. Good times
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IMO it shouldnt matter that i was pushing the car a little. I wasnt over revving the engine or anything. Simply using a little of the cars potential.. What is the purpose of buying a 50k car with 400+hp only never to get the tach above 3k rpm. This is completely irrevelant imo.Car has never been tracked etc. This is a mechanical defect that should be fixed by the dealer no matter what. Good times
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I don't really car how you drive your car, it doesn't matter to me. Nor do I car how much $$ people pay for a car that is capable of exceeding most speed limits by well over 100 miles an hour, when doing so is illegal. I'm not here to debate how cars are used or why sports cars are built. Hell I've got several of them so you I'm not on a soapbox here.
Dealers will find any excuse to not honor a warranty, and in this case if you car is already out of warranty, the fact that your dealer looks to be playing nice suggests you may want to hold on to that dealer.
Dealers will find any excuse to not honor a warranty, and in this case if you car is already out of warranty, the fact that your dealer looks to be playing nice suggests you may want to hold on to that dealer.
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I don't really car how you drive your car, it doesn't matter to me. Nor do I car how much $$ people pay for a car that is capable of exceeding most speed limits by well over 100 miles an hour, when doing so is illegal. I'm not here to debate how cars are used or why sports cars are built. Hell I've got several of them so you I'm not on a soapbox here.
Dealers will find any excuse to not honor a warranty, and in this case if you car is already out of warranty, the fact that your dealer looks to be playing nice suggests you may want to hold on to that dealer.
Dealers will find any excuse to not honor a warranty, and in this case if you car is already out of warranty, the fact that your dealer looks to be playing nice suggests you may want to hold on to that dealer.
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I've got a car (non-vette) that has spent over 300 days at the dealer in the 7.5 years I've owned it. In 36,000 or so miles: Convertible top fluid went bad several times, control arm bushings replaced several times, wheel bearings failed, tilt/telescoping motor failed, timing chain tensioners failing, nikasil engine lining failed requiring engine replacement.
All of those items failed due to poor design, and that car when new was quite pricey.
Set your expectations too high and you'll always be disappointed, set them sufficiently low and sometimes you'll be pleasantly surprised. This goes for cars, car dealers, etc.
In your case you bought a used car with a TBD (to us at least) history, maybe it was thrashed by a previous owner, maybe not. But most importantly it appears to fall into a range of VINs that had a recall for that very problem. That recall may keep you from having to spend any $$ to fix the problem.
Beyond that though, these cars are complex, with lots of gadgets to go bad.
Cars, like people, have more problems the more complex they get.
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05, 06, or 07 all LS2s had an unkeyed harmonic dampener that's subject to unscrewing itself. Many, probably most, won't be driven hard enough for this to happen, but a good number will (or already have). There's only one real fix, key the dampener so it can't turn on the crank snout. That worked for 80,000,000 previous generation small blocks. It works for LS2 engines too.
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05, 06, or 07 all LS2s had an unkeyed harmonic dampener that's subject to unscrewing itself. Many, probably most, won't be driven hard enough for this to happen, but a good number will (or already have). There's only one real fix, key the dampener so it can't turn on the crank snout. That worked for 80,000,000 previous generation small blocks. It works for LS2 engines too.