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Old 02-22-2008, 01:54 PM
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i just always took it for granted.... thought it was a standard operating procedure....
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Originally Posted by pwoolford
I pre-fill all oil filters when possible. The only exceptions are the sideways and upside down filters. That few seconds of no oil pressure really stirs up my OCD!
I even do the sideway ones. If you fill it almost full and let the filter sit a few minutes, while waiting for the rest of the oil to drain (or getting another beer), a lot of the oil is soaked up by the filter media so you can turn the filter on it's side while mounting and nothing spills.

Originally Posted by 07C6Z51
I like to open a quart and lube the gasket on the filter. While i'm doing that, it is just as easy to fill the filter, with oil.
Exactly! It's really no extra work at all.
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Old 02-22-2008, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by John Ell
On big trucks, they fill the oil filter about 90% before installing on the truck. Would this make any difference on a corvette engine?
I do pre fill oil filter
Old 02-22-2008, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pwoolford
I pre-fill all oil filters when possible. The only exceptions are the sideways and upside down filters. That few seconds of no oil pressure really stirs up my OCD!
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Be careful when you prefill as the oil you see will not be filtered. I have heard of instances (not a corvette)where a piece of the metal foil on the oil container made its way to a oil passage and wiped a bearing.
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Originally Posted by FortMorganAl
It is so easy to prefill the filter on a Corvette since it hangs down, I don't know why anyone wouldn't unless you were a "Corvette tech" at a dealership and had never thought of doing it.
That's funny...and sad because it's true.

Originally Posted by gsport
i just always took it for granted.... thought it was a standard operating procedure....
I just thought that's how you're supposed to do it.
Old 02-22-2008, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by John Ell
On big trucks, they fill the oil filter about 90% before installing on the truck. Would this make any difference on a corvette engine?
The first place the oil pump sends the oil is the filter why allow the engine to run for that few seconds without fresh oil? Nothing good can come from that!
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I've been pre filling for 20 years!
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Originally Posted by antt
Be careful when you prefill as the oil you see will not be filtered. I have heard of instances (not a corvette)where a piece of the metal foil on the oil container made its way to a oil passage and wiped a bearing.
Actually I'm amazed at the shavings left over from when the threads are cut in oil filters. That's definitely not something you want pumped through the system. I now give it a quick blast of compressed air or at least a wipe before using.

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Old 02-23-2008, 12:03 AM
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I always do.
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Originally Posted by pwoolford
I pre-fill all oil filters when possible. The only exceptions are the sideways and upside down filters.
Even on those filters mounted that way you can still pre fill it a little bit. My wife's Honda has it's filter mounted sideways and I always pour in about 100 ml of fresh oil, just enough to absorb into the filter media. It won't spill out when I spin the filter on, but having that little bit extra oil in there helps the oil pressure come up faster on that first initial start since it takes less time to fill up that filter the first time.
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Originally Posted by antt
Be careful when you prefill as the oil you see will not be filtered. I have heard of instances (not a corvette)where a piece of the metal foil on the oil container made its way to a oil passage and wiped a bearing.
That sounds like an urban legend to me. How would metal foil get into the oil in the first place? If somehow it did, a filter only takes about a half quart and any metal in the oil container would settle to the bottom and a would be the last thing to come out.
Old 02-23-2008, 01:32 AM
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Its settled then!!!

Standard Operating Procedure around here (the forum) will be to pre fill our filters.

She's my baby and I want to lube her up
Old 02-23-2008, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Thrill6
How would metal foil get into the oil in the first place?
the foil that is used to seal the oil bottle
Old 02-23-2008, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by antt
Be careful when you prefill as the oil you see will not be filtered. I have heard of instances (not a corvette)where a piece of the metal foil on the oil container made its way to a oil passage and wiped a bearing.
Isn't it more likely that the foil goes in when you put 5.5 quarts into the valve cover than when you put a pint into the oil filter? Yes, you should be careful when putting unfiltered oil into an engine anywhere but that also goes for sand, pebbles, metal filings, contact lenses, cigarette butts, shop towels, ...
Old 02-23-2008, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FortMorganAl
Isn't it more likely that the foil goes in when you put 5.5 quarts into the valve cover than when you put a pint into the oil filter? Yes, you should be careful when putting unfiltered oil into an engine anywhere but that also goes for sand, pebbles, metal filings, contact lenses, cigarette butts, shop towels, ...
Your right, it is more likely to enter the engine though the valve cover, but then you have a chance of catching it at the oil pump screen.

I also prefill my filters, and I use a funnel with the stainless steel screen on the outlet.

I don't think it is a urban legend as some engine manufacturers recommend not prefilling the oil filter; Cummins is one.

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Old 02-23-2008, 08:25 AM
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I always prefill the filter...peace of mind if nothing else...
Old 02-23-2008, 08:31 AM
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When possible I do. No good reasn NOT to.
Old 02-23-2008, 09:01 AM
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Pre-fill the filter if it makes you feel better. When you change your oil, you are not draining every single passageway in the engine and all the parts and bearings still have a film of oil on them. That instant when you start the engine, everything is still lubed. The time lag before the pressure gage moves is just the time it takes for the pressure sensor port to refill and everything to react.



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