I've been watching Sebring this PM and the overwhelming dominance of the 911 RSRs and F430s. At 3PM PST, LG's C6 is next to last.

LG's C6 is basically a tuned C6. The 911 RSR is a race-tuned short-production race car. The C6 is not competing in the same league. It will be interesting to hear what Lou has to say, and if he sees a way to prepare the car and make it competitive.

The Vette equivalent (in terms of preparation) of the RSR is its GT1 C6.R and that shines.

 

it's also his first race/year in gt2. give them some time/money.

 

Lou's car is well more than just a "tuned C6" Not sure what gave you that impression.





Don't forget, this is the very first outing with a new race program. The car is completely different. They have only had the car on the track since the practice sessions at Sebring started. Give he and Louis time and they will be on the podium. Lou runs a top program and he likes to win. This is only a minor setback.

You can see more photos from the build here:

http://www.badboyvettes.com/164

 

Thanks Paul! You obviously know a lot about the development. I thought that the GT2 rules did not allow for a lot of changes. It surely looks like they do. I certainly agree that this is the first outing, and hope they will improve their performances. It would be good if there were a other C6s well prepared in GT2. The odds for a single car dominate are slim.

 

Well I'm going to stick my two cents worth in. I happen to own both a 2008 C6 Z51 and a 2007 Porsche GT3 I also autocrosse a 1983 Porsche 911sc. Paul's C6 will be be a good car but probably not in the class of the Porsche GT3RSR or the F red car. Likewise the Gt3 RSR cannot compete with the C6R a pure race car. More of a tube race car that they added a body to, in fact there was some talk at GM of putting a Camero body on the C6R tube frame this year to promote the new car. I enjoy my corvette but the GT3 will easily take it on an road course. now for you straight line folks I will acknowledge that a 6.3 ltr. V8 will smoke a 3.6 flat six straight away but road courses involve corners and the suspension of the Porsche combined with the braking will win the corners. Remember Porsche builds race cars they adapt to the streets (I'm talking 911 models here) Gm with the corvette builds street cars that can be adapted to the track (road courses) All that said neither is a bad car, just different. They are all great cars just designed with different purposes. If anyone is interested of my three cars the Z51 suspension is the softest, the GT3 is the next and the way my '83 SC is the firmest but that is by design. Bottom line, which is redundant is that you should enjoy the car you have, cheer for the car that you like in a race BUT understand the differences in the cars. Now go Paul a competitive car in GT2 will make the series better and more interesting to all. Again sorry for the length... but then I'm an old guy..... but not dead yet

 

There was only slightly more than 2 MPH speed difference between the #62 F430 of Jamie Melo and the #28 C6. Melo was the fastest GT2 car and won last year - a well seasoned entry. This was the 28's first race and the car wasn't completed until a couple of weeks ago. Give Lou a break, I look for good things in time. Oh yeah, Lou was faster than the Viper, the Ford GT and the Aston Martin....

 

According to the IMSA live scoring, he's out due to an overheating problem.

 

These are not factory stock cars. Your real world experience may be a little off as it relates to the race series cars. Lou Gigliotti's race programs have been winning races for year. They have over 50 wins in the speed GT series which by the way was heavily populated with GT3's and Ferrari's. Lou's Corvette in that series was one of the did quite well against those cars in that series. These are all purpose built race cars.

This is a brandnew car and this is its first ever outing in competition. Give Lou some time and I guarantee a win for him this year. The ALMS series is a bit different in the structure and application of rules as they relate to the cars than the SpeedGT series was. Once the team sorts it out, we'll see the Corvette on the podium.

 

LGs ALMS C6 is a Reliy built Corvette. Must LOOK like a stock corvette, but as those pictures show, a bit more then a stock corvette

Price $525,000

 

LG only lasted 99 laps

 

Yeah I was pretty disappointed. I have to admit I was really looking forward to seeing what he could do in this race, even more so than the C6.Rs (well, only a litttle more . . . )

Hopefully he can get it together in the next race.

 

Running their first race is tough enough...and running at Sebring is tougher still. Remember the GT1 vettes didn't win their first time out either (at least I don't remember them winning first time out).

 

I'm also a former 911 owner and I continue to love 11s. I do not agree with your comment re that the C6 suspension is less capable than a 911s. Not true. It is a different philosophy, with much longer travel and therefore better adapted to street use and comfort. The 911 suspension is a bit old school actually, and is tuned for smooth tracks and is punishing on irregular surfaces. A stiff, low travel, suspension is not necessarily the best suspension, notwithstanding the conventional wisdom, amongst sports cars aficionados. You can fit any suspension you want on a C6, besides.

What sold me on the C6 vs the current 997CS was the overall package. I am not a race driver but I have driving skills above the average 911/Corvette owner. My C6 drives faster and more planted than a 997 on the same twisty mountain road, and that is impressive, at least to me.

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Also someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think that the C6.R is not a totally detached from production tube-space-frame chassis. I think it uses a 3-D space aluminum space frame (like we have) albeit modified, lightened, reinforced.

 

I'm pretty sure it's the same exact production hydroformed steel frame that is on our base C6's. It's not aluminum, it's steel. So yeah the C6 base car has the same or similar frame as the C6R

 

From what they told me at the factory it is steel and the reason is so the roll cage can be welded to the frame.

Also don't get me wrong I do like my Corvette but I also enjoy my Porsche GT3 as for race car info. The C6 racing in GT2 is a one off car built by Miller and I think someone mentioned the cost around $500 K Porsche was to deliver 24 GT# RSR's this year to racing teams around the world and the "out the door" pricing ready to race is around $400K about the same ballpark in the racing world Should be an interesting year. Rember last year Porsche did poorly at Sebring in both LMP2 and GT2 but that changed yesterday. I have autocrossed on the Sebring track (years ago before they improved it) and yes it is a very rough surface that is hard on cars. As I said it's looking like GT2 will provide some great racing this year and Audi as some work to do to hold off the Porsche spyders. Good to see Aston Martin back to provide some interest in GT1.

 

Correct

 

Actually it was finished a week ago this past Thursday. Last Friday was supposed to be a closed session shakedown and test day at CMP in Kershaw, SC. but with the rain I don't think they were able to test and went straight down to Sebring that Friday. I have not spoke to Lou this week so I am not sure. They will make a good showing before the year is out. This is a big step for them moving up to GT2. Give them a little time.