First oil change when???
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It cost me 30 bucks to change it myself. You should have seen all the crap on my drain plug.
To me it is worth it. I would do it even if I was leasing the car it's not fair to give someone else a car that is not taken car of or just pure negligence. That is why I buy new because people who don't take care of them.
I am a firm believer in what you give in life you will receive.
To me it is worth it. I would do it even if I was leasing the car it's not fair to give someone else a car that is not taken car of or just pure negligence. That is why I buy new because people who don't take care of them.I am a firm believer in what you give in life you will receive.
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When the DIC says 0 or when the elapsed time has reached 12 months, whichever occurs first.
I left the 60s 39 years ago. Follow what the book says and quit wasting oil and money. I tire of paying those damn Arabs for any oil product.
Elmer
I left the 60s 39 years ago. Follow what the book says and quit wasting oil and money. I tire of paying those damn Arabs for any oil product.
Elmer
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what do you mean 3000 miles is old school? back in the day it was 5000 the oil co's and the oil change places came up with 3000 to sell more oil. with syn oil I go with GM's 7000 but at 50% I put a new filter and add a qt. do your first early and then go to 7000
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I changed mine @ 3000 Mi, it had about 65% oil life remaining. The chief reason I did this was because of the filter, not necessarily the oil itself. I figured being a new engine any partials from break-in were probably trapped in the filter... Probably OCD on my part, but I feel better.
I only waited that long because of the synthetic oil.Any other car I did the first one at 1,000.
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I follow the maintainence schedule in the manual. These are the requirements that GM set for keeping the powertrain warranty valid. If they're willing to warranty the power train for 5 years and 100,000 miles with that schedule, then changing more often is a waste of time, money, and oil.
The 3,000 mile oil changes are old school guidelines for older engines and oil technology, not the LSX engines and synthetic oils.
The 3,000 mile oil changes are old school guidelines for older engines and oil technology, not the LSX engines and synthetic oils.
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Changing the oil @ 3,000 miles is silly old school. BMW and GM both provide a method of changing the oil. Follow that and you will be fine. The first old change should be around 3,000 miles if freeway miles. Goodness boys let's not baby these things too much.
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Much of the stuff in the oil that was iron before is now going to be aluminum in the LS engines...and the magnetic plug won't help with that...don't wait for the DIC on the first change...
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Yes, like the Clevite Bi-Metal bearing, which is Aluminum/ Silicon and used by many OE engine makers, but much of the stuff floating around in the oil of a new engine is residue from the manufacturing process (machining)....and by far the most common element in the LS is aluminum...the block and the heads. And iron isn't in the bearings in any significant quantity anyway, iron is more of a gear/pump,shaft,crank,cam, lifter, pushrod, connecting rod thing...
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Again...
Lab data.
Anyone have any lab data to support early change (either first or otherwise) is necessary or even beneficial to a meaurable degree to the average driver and stock engine?
Is there any high confidence data and evidence comparing an early change engine to a manufacturers recommendation interval change engine?
Because GM spends a lot of time and money analyzing their products in engineering to come up with how to maintain these engines.
And have improved them greatly so we dont have to do as much maintainance.
Given evidence, I am happy to convert my view.
Lab data.
Anyone have any lab data to support early change (either first or otherwise) is necessary or even beneficial to a meaurable degree to the average driver and stock engine?
Is there any high confidence data and evidence comparing an early change engine to a manufacturers recommendation interval change engine?
Because GM spends a lot of time and money analyzing their products in engineering to come up with how to maintain these engines.
And have improved them greatly so we dont have to do as much maintainance.
Given evidence, I am happy to convert my view.
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I'm not in this thread to change anyone's mind on any issue, only to give my opinion based on my experience and knowledge in reponse to the question asked. The title of the thread is in the form of a question, and most of the posts are in the form of an answer. Every one of us lucky C6 owners needs to weigh input from anywhere and everywhere we get it and make our own decisions on how we maintain our cars. I've never felt like changing anyone's mind was very important. I maintain my cars the way I like and if anyone asks, I will share my experiences with them. No pressure....