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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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Using an unlicensed transmitter on a public safety frequency is one thing, and yes that's an FCC issue. Using one in an attempt to disrupt a police radar is something else entirely and it will get you cross-threaded with an otherwise friendly LEO in a hurry. Be prepared for a ticket as long as your arm, and it'll start with interference with a police officer. After that he'll probably pile on additional citations for no front plate, loud radio, dirty windows, and unpressed trousers. T'aint worth it, McGee.
and thats why people hate LEO's. Its protect and serve, most of them should learn that.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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and thats why people hate LEO's. Its protect and serve, most of them should learn that.
No disrespect meant but I am surprised at the level of immaturity found in this thread. I don't think there is anything wrong with radar detectors and what not but the fact that people get upset that LEO's pulll people for speeding amazes me. Part of pulling you over is protecting other motorist from your dumb decisions. I am 20 years old and I'm not about to lie and said I have never sped but I can't understand how one could justify getting upset at a police officer from protecting you and others from driving dangerously on public roadways. If you are not mature enough to save the speeding for the track when others are not in danger you might want to rethink your purchase. Maybe a 5 cylinder chevy colorado is what you should be driving.

Last week a State Trooper in my home town was killed on the side of the road because someone did not want a speeding ticket. I did not know him nor do I know any police officers but I have great respect for them. They put their lives on the line to protect and to serve everybody on the roadways. I understand there are some jerks out there but you shouldn't generalize because most do their job very well.

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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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exactly, if they are protecting, thats fine. when they are generating revenue sitting around at 2pm pulling people over when there is no traffic and purposely sitting at the one part zoned 55 on a highway to pull people over when everyone does 85 on that road in the usual course of traffic is revenue generation. I got pulled over as well as 3 other people. I haven't had a ticket in 7 years and the last one was for going straight in a left turn lane and you couldn't tell because the trees were covering everything. That deserves a warning not a ticket. LOL, no one in front of me or in back of me, minding my own business while people are going past me and I get a ticket because its revenue generation time.

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No disrespect meant but I am surprised at the level of immaturity found in this thread. I don't think there is anything wrong with radar detectors and what not but the fact that people get upset that LEO's pulll people for speeding amazes me. Part of pulling you over is protecting other motorist from your dumb decisions. I am 20 years old and I'm not about to lie and said I have never sped but I can't understand how one could justify getting upset at a police officer from protecting you and others from driving dangerously on public roadways. If you are not mature enough to save the speeding for the track when others are not in danger you might want to rethink your purchase. Maybe a 5 cylinder chevy colorado is what you should be driving.

Last week a State Trooper in my home town was killed on the side of the road because someone did not want a speeding ticket. I did not know him nor do I know any police officers but I have great respect for them. They put their lives on the line to protect and to serve everybody on the roadways. I understand there are some jerks out there but you shouldn't generalize because most do their job very well.

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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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Can anyone tell me if the radar scramblers they sell are worth purchasing. I am not sure the name of the product but Its supposed to make the radar go crazy so they cant get an acurate reading on your speed when the radar is set. I am curious to know if anyone has one or has tried it and how did it work. Any police officers out there please give me your input as well.

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You want Police officers opinions on something used to help break the law???
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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and thats why people hate LEO's. Its protect and serve, most of them should learn that.
part of protecting and serving is protecting other drivers from the reckless nature of some drivers.....not all...but some.
I know it's fun driving fast and not fun getting a ticket, but if you remove the possibility of getting one, imagine how the average person would drive.
Our traffic accident and fatality would be as high as Germany, where many parts of the Autoban have no speed limit.

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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by yankintx
part of protecting and serving is protecting other drivers from the reckless nature of some drivers.....not all...but some.
I know it's fun driving fast and not fun getting a ticket, but if you remove the possibility of getting one, imagine how the average person would drive.
Our traffic accident and fatality would be as high as Germany, where many parts of the Autoban have no speed limit.

i believe there was a study done that our roads are actually less safe than the autobahn.

no problem if the police are pulling over the idiot that was on her cell phone switching lanes that missed me by an inch. The cop did pull her over. But judgement as to whether its safe or not should be used.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by robl45
exactly, if they are protecting, thats fine. when they are generating revenue sitting around at 2pm pulling people over when there is no traffic and purposely sitting at the one part zoned 55 on a highway to pull people over when everyone does 85 on that road in the usual course of traffic is revenue generation. I got pulled over as well as 3 other people. I haven't had a ticket in 7 years and the last one was for going straight in a left turn lane and you couldn't tell because the trees were covering everything. That deserves a warning not a ticket. LOL, no one in front of me or in back of me, minding my own business while people are going past me and I get a ticket because its revenue generation time.

Thats crap. You chose to speed and knowingly break the law. You got cited for doing so. The LEO did his job and did what he was paid to do. You're just ticked because you got caught. You've got no one to blame but yourself so accept your own responsibility.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Thats crap. You chose to speed and knowingly break the law. You got cited for doing so. The LEO did his job and did what he was paid to do. You're just ticked because you got caught. You've got no one to blame but yourself so accept your own responsibility.
Nope. That's not crap. What is crap is setting unreasonably low speed limits and then ticketing drivers who aren't causing any safety problem and who are actually driving at a safe and reasonable speed. Now, THAT'S CRAP! And it happens all the time.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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It's a two way street... when I get pulled over for speeding I don't really freak out.... i usually know how fast I was going.

However - speed traps, and all the cloak and daggar stuff that cops seem to do are only there to make the city/county money. I would fully support a tiered licensing system where there was commercial, elderly, young teen, adult, and some sort of "technically advanced" class.... where it was based on your performance and what you drove. In terms of safety - me in a Z06 could drive much faster and much safer then a 70 year old lady in an old beat up Cadillac. The real issue is safety, but most police departments would rather rake in dough from tickets then focus on TRUE safety. Taking the lowest common denominator approach is just inefficient.

When their incentive is just to generate revenue - my respect for them goes out the window. Let's eliminate major crimes before we go after things like me not having a front plate. It always seems though that people that speed get the bad rap for being "dangerous" when just as much (or more) danger can surround the *** hat that has a broken down 85 cadillac that goes 50mph in the fast lane while everyone else does 75... that is something that needs to be targeted just as much.


On the topic of radar detectors/jammers - I live in texas. There are NO laws on the books for detectors or active laser jammers. So you know what, I have a V1 and will soon be getting a Laser Interceptor 4head system. And I will run these systems with a smile on my face because if they want to take advantage and make money off of me from the frivolous front plate law you bet your sweet *** I'm going to use the law (or lack thereof) to run active jamming on lidar guns. I know radar detectors/jammers do not score points with cops, but that is my choice. If a police officer takes issue or offense because of my detector/jammer that's something he needs to address with the state not me.

If we really wanted to improve safety on the road, the process of testing and acquiring a license should be 5X harder.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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exactly, I got tagged by an unmarked dodge charger. Thats called revenue generation at its finest.

Originally Posted by toxin440
It's a two way street... when I get pulled over for speeding I don't really freak out.... i usually know how fast I was going.

However - speed traps, and all the cloak and daggar stuff that cops seem to do are only there to make the city/county money. I would fully support a tiered licensing system where there was commercial, elderly, young teen, adult, and some sort of "technically advanced" class.... where it was based on your performance and what you drove. In terms of safety - me in a Z06 could drive much faster and much safer then a 70 year old lady in an old beat up Cadillac. The real issue is safety, but most police departments would rather rake in dough from tickets then focus on TRUE safety. Taking the lowest common denominator approach is just inefficient.

When their incentive is just to generate revenue - my respect for them goes out the window. Let's eliminate major crimes before we go after things like me not having a front plate. It always seems though that people that speed get the bad rap for being "dangerous" when just as much (or more) danger can surround the *** hat that has a broken down 85 cadillac that goes 50mph in the fast lane while everyone else does 75... that is something that needs to be targeted just as much.


On the topic of radar detectors/jammers - I live in texas. There are NO laws on the books for detectors or active laser jammers. So you know what, I have a V1 and will soon be getting a Laser Interceptor 4head system. And I will run these systems with a smile on my face because if they want to take advantage and make money off of me from the frivolous front plate law you bet your sweet *** I'm going to use the law (or lack thereof) to run active jamming on lidar guns. I know radar detectors/jammers do not score points with cops, but that is my choice. If a police officer takes issue or offense because of my detector/jammer that's something he needs to address with the state not me.

If we really wanted to improve safety on the road, the process of testing and acquiring a license should be 5X harder.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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not one worked when they tested them a while ago.V-1 works to help prevent you getting popped though!
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by webdzynes
Thats crap. You chose to speed and knowingly break the law. You got cited for doing so. The LEO did his job and did what he was paid to do. You're just ticked because you got caught. You've got no one to blame but yourself so accept your own responsibility.

YES, YES, YES.

You need to grow up, and stop acting like a victim . . . LEO is doing his job as stated previously: Protecting the drivers in your immediate area, and serving the best interst of society.

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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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YES, YES, YES.

You need to grow up, and stop acting like a victim . . . LEO is doing his job as stated previously: Protecting the drivers in your immediate area, and serving the best interst of society.

LOL, there were no drivers anywhere around me, I was in my own lane and the HOV lane to boot which has like 2 feet between the other lanes. Going 81 miles per hour while other cars were passing me. Sad to say but most LEO's are crooked and don't know what the word public safety means.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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I drive about 3,000 miles a month and am constantly amazed at the stupid things I see people do on the interstate highways.
Driving at 90 - 100 mph or more in and out of traffic, cutting people off and yaking on a cell phone at the same time. All of which gets them nowhere any sooner.
I ain't no angel and on a lonely stretch of interstate with no traffic, in the daylight and no cell phone I have been known to drop the hammer for a ways(it is a corvette).
When people are out there creating dangerous situations in traffic I am honestly glad to see them get busted. For the most part LEO's are there to protect us from idiots like this.
In most cases the bust will depend on the level of endangerment to the public. I got caught on a stretch of I 10 in the middle of nowhere for 95 in a 70.
The guy gave me a break and I got it for failure to obey a traffic control device (speed limit sign) 70 bucks.
Had I been doing this in traffic I bet he'd have thrown the book at me.
By the way if radar jammers worked we wouldnt need stealth fighters.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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RADAR Jammers are a Federal Offense!!!
Radar jammers are illegal and most, if notall, do not work. Laser jammers are legal in most states and do work.
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by robl45
LOL, there were no drivers anywhere around me, I was in my own lane and the HOV lane to boot which has like 2 feet between the other lanes. Going 81 miles per hour while other cars were passing me. Sad to say but most LEO's are crooked and don't know what the word public safety means.
It pointless to argue but by your own statement, "there were no drivers anywhere around" and at the same time you state you're doing 81 and others are passing you... If you wanna play victim, at least get your story right.

The bottom line remains the same - you knew the speed limit. you knew you were speeding. You CHOSE to go faster (as we all frequently do) and you got nailed. Suck it up and move on. The LEO did nothing wrong. Thats not to say some dont but to say they're at fault in this is simply foolish.
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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its stupidity like this that keeps our country in the mess its in. All you guys defending the LEOS should run for congress. There were no cars around me meaning in front and back, There were few cars on the highway in general, I was in the HOV lane, There was a good 2 feet between me and any cars, its an interstate, 81 is a normal speed for that road. When people are weaving in and out of traffic and doing stupid things, a ticket is warranted, this nonsense is revenue generation, sorry if you can't understand that.

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It pointless to argue but by your own statement, "there were no drivers anywhere around" and at the same time you state you're doing 81 and others are passing you... If you wanna play victim, at least get your story right.

The bottom line remains the same - you knew the speed limit. you knew you were speeding. You CHOSE to go faster (as we all frequently do) and you got nailed. Suck it up and move on. The LEO did nothing wrong. Thats not to say some dont but to say they're at fault in this is simply foolish.
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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I don't have a problem with LEO's busting people that are dangerous on the road. I smile when i see some ricer get pulled over for playing 2Fast2Furious on the streets weaving in and out of traffic to look cool. I applaud all LEO's for pulling over drunk drivers and stuff like that.

When I drive - the rule in my car for myself is no cell phone, I'm not even a fan of the hands free stuff because when I am driving... im freaking DRIVING.

What's more dangerous? Me doing 80mph on a flat straight highway paying 100% attention to the road, or a soccar mom doing the speed limit, but yapping on a cell phone, putting on makup, and trying to get her kids to be quiet in the back seat?

I'm not giving myself a free pass that I have never done anything wrong on the road - I was pulled over and ticketed for 87 in 55 once. I was HAPPY to get a ticket (600 dollars) instead of going to jail.

The term "safety" on the road is relative to what you drive, how you drive, and how focused you are. All the debate over speed traps, revenue generation and the enforcement by the letter of the law makes me think of the times when you are driving say at 3am, and all the roads are deserted, you come upon a red light and there is not a SOUL on the road, a cop is in the distance and sees you stop and then run the red light because NOBODY is freaking there - is that safety? or is the revenue?
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i use the V-1 and a laser jammer..both work well
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jrpedraza
I think it's Escort that makes a laser 'shifter' that tested very well; I don't have one so cannot comment on it's effectiveness or lack thereof.

JR
I have the "shifters" in my Wife's BMW. Two mount in the front and one mounts on the rear license plate bracket. I have been shot with Laser several times in that car, even though never really speeding, and have not been pulled over. Even though I did get a couple shaking of the heads from the officer shooting me

I am waiting for their new shifter package to come out in a couple months. It is a much cleaner install, has built in GPS, and has a better range. We'll see

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