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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GarrettDN
I know this isn't answering the question, but might I suggest doing the math on how much a year you are actually going to save by skimping on gas? It might surprise you how little it is even as a daily driver.
Here you go, I'll do the math:

Drive 15,000 miles a year and average 16MPG, mid grade (89 octaine) cost you $4,078.13 for the year (based on national average today of $4.35/gallon)

Drive the same 15,000 miles and the same 16MPG using premium (91+), your gas bill is $4,237.50 for the year (national average today of $4.52/gallon)

For the YEAR, you saved $159.37 or a TINY bit over 1 cent per mile. Of course, if you feed your corvette mid grade all the time, in 25 years you will have saved enough money ($3,984.25) for a decent down payment on a Malibu (a 2008 Malibu that is).

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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Devil Dog 00023
I didn't spend the money to buy a new 2008 Corvette just to put something a "little bit cheaper" in it... If I can't afford the good stuff (high octane) then I need to buy another car and that my friends is not going to happen. Spend the few extra dollars...
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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Okay, what long term damage? The manual says 87 is fine. And your math may be correct, but octane is not measured that way and the effects are not what you describe.
Now we're getting to the heart of the matter. No one has really gone into the effects of the long haul.

The manual does not state that "87 is fine". It states that 87 may be used. 91 is recommended. The ECM compensates for lower octane by retarding timing. This equates to loss of operating efficency, which reduces power AND gas mileage. So, where is the gain? Also, retarding the timing (not burning all the fuel) can damage the 02 sensors and cats.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron one
Now we're getting to the heart of the matter. No one has really gone into the effects of the long haul.

The manual does not state that "87 is fine". It states that 87 may be used. 91 is recommended. The ECM compensates for lower octane by retarding timing. This equates to loss of operating efficency, which reduces power AND gas mileage. So, where is the gain? Also, retarding the timing (not burning all the fuel) can damage the 02 sensors and cats.
This link explains some of the 'mystery' here. You have a point, on the power reduction, but it may or may not effect mileage. As with all things, 'it depends'.
I found this link to be enlightening.
http://moteroweb.eresmas.com/gasoline.htm

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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron one
Now we're getting to the heart of the matter. No one has really gone into the effects of the long haul.

The manual does not state that "87 is fine". It states that 87 may be used. 91 is recommended. The ECM compensates for lower octane by retarding timing. This equates to loss of operating efficency, which reduces power AND gas mileage. So, where is the gain? Also, retarding the timing (not burning all the fuel) can damage the 02 sensors and cats.
87 is fine and does not cause damage...yikes....

I like sheetz and wawa, they get their gas the same place the Tier 1 stations do!!
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by freyke
89 octane... no probs/issues...
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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I don't get it. Pay about $50k for a sports car and then you are going to try to save about $2 at most a tank with cheap gas that will cut back your performance. It is almost better to buy a cheaper sports car and put the right gas in it.
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