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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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Chuck does this A6 tune void the 5 yr 100k power train warranty

Changing the washer fluid voids the warranty.....

Here's the deal.... EVERYTHING TECHNICALLY voids your warranty....

I wanna make one thing clear....From what I gather, people on the forum seem to believe that your warranty gets voided "JUST BECAUSE YOU TUNED IT."

THE FACT IS:
The only way they might even consider it is if the engine or trans explodes and they can PROVE you tuned it.

You have to be conspiring to have major repairs made for free under the terms of your warranty (knowing full well you're at fault) and they have to prove what caused the failure.

You can go to the dealer EVERY DAY FOR A WEEK with a tune and not have to worry...NO PROBLEMS! AS LONG AS THE ENGINE ISN'T BLOWN AND YOU'RE NOT CRYING/TRYING TO GET IT COVERED FOR FREE!

Otherwise...TUNE YOUR CAR, ADD A REAR END, INSTALL A BLOWER and don't sweat it....JUST DON'T BLOW IT!

Stay TUNED!
Chuck CoW
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck CoW
DON'T DO IT MAN!!!


The A6 is an amazing trans if you talk to it right.

The only problem with the A6 trans is that it must be programmed (tuned) by me in person...You come to me...or I come to you.

But all that has changed. I'm telling you this in small print cause it's not been made public yet.....But, Possibly by the end of the day today...EVERYONE will have an opportunity to have the Chuck CoW A6 tune....NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE!

Stay TUNED!
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck CoW
Changing the washer fluid voids the warranty.....

Here's the deal.... EVERYTHING TECHNICALLY voids your warranty....

I wanna make one thing clear....From what I gather, people on the forum seem to believe that your warranty gets voided "JUST BECAUSE YOU TUNED IT."

THE FACT IS:
The only way they might even consider it is if the engine or trans explodes and they can PROVE you tuned it.

You have to be conspiring to have major repairs made for free under the terms of your warranty (knowing full well you're at fault) and they have to prove what caused the failure.

You can go to the dealer EVERY DAY FOR A WEEK with a tune and not have to worry...NO PROBLEMS! AS LONG AS THE ENGINE ISN'T BLOWN AND YOU'RE NOT CRYING/TRYING TO GET IT COVERED FOR FREE!

Otherwise...TUNE YOUR CAR, ADD A REAR END, INSTALL A BLOWER and don't sweat it....JUST DON'T BLOW IT!

Stay TUNED!
Chuck CoW
Thanks Chuck and I was responding on the warranty issue as this has been discussed in several threads that just doing a tune GM can tell and they will void the warranty. Sure I am going to want my A6 to shift the best and I actually have a C5 blowin so when my C6 is picked up at the Museum I will not need this one blowin and want my warranty that comes with a new car and again thanks for your response
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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doing a tune GM can tell and they will void the warranty.
ONLY If you explode it and they dig into the pcm....

REMEMBER: if there is no major catastrophe THEY WON'T LOOK, WON'T CARE, WON'T GIVE YOU A HARD TIME.

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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck CoW
DON'T DO IT MAN!!!

The A6 is an amazing trans if you talk to it right.

The only problem with the A6 trans is that it must be programmed (tuned) by me in person...You come to me...or I come to you.

But all that has changed. I'm telling you this in small print cause it's not been made public yet.....But, Possibly by the end of the day today...EVERYONE will have an opportunity to have the Chuck CoW A6 tune....NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE!

Stay TUNED!
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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I think the reason anyone would consider the A4 over the A6 is because there are built A4's avaialble from great companies such as RPM Trannys. Right now RPM is working on an A6 version because they finally have the HP software tuning they needed. Now it's a matter of seeinh what works and what does not and then changing internals and selling their new version.

I assume this will happen in a while and all the A6 guys looking to make big power will be able to. I know the A6 seems to hold fine at around 550rwhp and thats great BUT I know me personally, I hate not knowing if today is the day it's going to give out. Takes some of the enjoyment out of the car. I guess A6 guys should just hold tight and look for updates from RPM
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck CoW
ONLY If you explode it and they dig into the pcm....

REMEMBER: if there is no major catastrophe THEY WON'T LOOK, WON'T CARE, WON'T GIVE YOU A HARD TIME.

Chuck CoW
Chuck,

While I do agree with you in principle (since I recently got my heavily modded car fixed under warranty) I don't think you're in a position to speak for each and every dealership out there.

The truth is that every dealership is in fact different and a service manager once told me that if you try taking your modified car into a dealership that isn’t otherwise “mod-friendly”, not only will you not get that part repaired, some dealerships have even gone so far as to void an entire powertrain warranty based on only a few mods.

To give you another example, I recently thought that I had fried my VCM while loading a tune. When I talked to the dealership about getting it repaired under warranty, I was told that I could probably get away with it, but I would run the risk of voiding my warranty if I did. The reason being is that most (if not all) dealerships are required to send the defective part back to GM so that they can do a post-mortem. In the case of my VCM, if they were to later determine that it did have a custom tune then that pretty much would have been the end of my warranty right then and there.

Given that there are so many Corvette owners out there who have to rely on other people to work on there car and seek answers here on this forum, I personally think it’s very dangerous to be making comments like the one shown above because it could sooo easily lull somebody into a false sense of security.

Just my $0.02

Christopher
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck CoW
Changing the washer fluid voids the warranty.....

Here's the deal.... EVERYTHING TECHNICALLY voids your warranty....

I wanna make one thing clear....From what I gather, people on the forum seem to believe that your warranty gets voided "JUST BECAUSE YOU TUNED IT."

THE FACT IS:
The only way they might even consider it is if the engine or trans explodes and they can PROVE you tuned it.

You have to be conspiring to have major repairs made for free under the terms of your warranty (knowing full well you're at fault) and they have to prove what caused the failure.

You can go to the dealer EVERY DAY FOR A WEEK with a tune and not have to worry...NO PROBLEMS! AS LONG AS THE ENGINE ISN'T BLOWN AND YOU'RE NOT CRYING/TRYING TO GET IT COVERED FOR FREE!

Otherwise...TUNE YOUR CAR, ADD A REAR END, INSTALL A BLOWER and don't sweat it....JUST DON'T BLOW IT!

Stay TUNED!
Chuck CoW

Where I get me car serviced, my Chevy Rep knows my car is tuned and I never had a problem with the Warranty.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by thesubfloor
Chuck,

While I do agree with you in principle (since I recently got my heavily modded car fixed under warranty) I don't think you're in a position to speak for each and every dealership out there.

The truth is that every dealership is in fact different and a service manager once told me that if you try taking your modified car into a dealership that isn’t otherwise “mod-friendly”, not only will you not get that part repaired, some dealerships have even gone so far as to void an entire powertrain warranty based on only a few mods.

To give you another example, I recently thought that I had fried my VCM while loading a tune. When I talked to the dealership about getting it repaired under warranty, I was told that I could probably get away with it, but I would run the risk of voiding my warranty if I did. The reason being is that most (if not all) dealerships are required to send the defective part back to GM so that they can do a post-mortem. In the case of my VCM, if they were to later determine that it did have a custom tune then that pretty much would have been the end of my warranty right then and there.

Given that there are so many Corvette owners out there who have to rely on other people to work on there car and seek answers here on this forum, I personally think it’s very dangerous to be making comments like the one shown above because it could sooo easily lull somebody into a false sense of security.

Just my $0.02

Christopher
Hey Christopher... I see what you are saying....

The problem here is that too many forum members are under the mistaken impression that dealers are actively, secretly checking cars for tunes and voiding warranties for vehicles that enter the dealer service area with no engine or trans related failures.

General Motors is not the sneaky cop hiding behind a billboard late on a dark Saturday night hoping for some stupid drunk fool to happen by at a high rate of speed so he can fall into his trap.

General Motors is not randomly checking vettes for tunes when the vehicles come into the dealership for routine warranty services hoping to find tunes and void warranties.

Trust me on this..Without us in the aftermarket industry creating the excitment and opportunities for people to customize Vettes, there would be FAR FEWER Vette sales....AND GM KNOWS THAT.

Here's where you have to worry...Your tuner sucks or you're an animal and beat the life out of your car wrecklessly and deliver your vehicle to a GM service center on a flatbed with the engine exploded...and you have a TUNE.

Now you have reason to be concerned.

I'm not telling anyone that losing your warranty is impossible, but...THESE ENGINES DO NOT BLOW UNLESS YOU SET OUT TO DO IT. You have to really abuse them above and beyond to kill them.

My point is that TUNING YOUR VETTE IS TOTALLY SAFE and ALMOST nobody need worry. We're talking 99.99% of tuned vettes NEVER have warranty issues resulting form tunes whatsoever.

TUNING IS SAFE when you use a good tuner and you don't intentionally KILL your car.

Chuck CoW
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Originally Posted by peter pan
Chuck does this A6 tune void the 5 yr 100k power train warranty

Only if the tranny breaks!!!
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