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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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BTW, I used to be the deputy coroner for the county, I no longer do that as it interferes with family time on the weekend... well, I strongly support the local PD and the chief of police made me an honorary deputy jailer, the no longer keep inmates at the city jail, they all go to county...

Chief issued me a city PD ID Card and a badge... it's gotten me out of a couple tickets in past. I dont flaunt it, but as I open my wallet any officer pulling you over is watching your hands and the badge is visible, they have always given me a "warning" and sent me on my way. ALthough one state trooper did make me sweat a little, made me wait 15 minutes while he jabbered on the radio... He gave me a warning for 90 in a 55.

I think if I ever got clocked over in 100mph (c'mon, y'all know you've done it) I think I'd be embarassed to "flash" my badge in an attempt to get out of a ticket.
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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Nothing beats the Valentine One in the under $500 radar detector category.

http://guysoflidar.com/august-2007/r...ctor-test.html
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Brentvino169
Nothing beats the Valentine One in the under $500 radar detector category.

http://guysoflidar.com/august-2007/r...ctor-test.html
I was waiting for this guy to come into this thread. It's almost as if he's got a Valentine1 batlight that shines whenever there's a radar detector thread. And he always comes in and posts that same review. Look at his previous posts. Every single one of them is about the Valentine One.
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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Great thread. Informative. I was going to search for radar detectors soon but now I don't need to. Thanks

I think I will go with the 9500i but I'll do a little more research.
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rjwoerheide
Great thread. Informative. I was going to search for radar detectors soon but now I don't need to. Thanks

I think I will go with the 9500i but I'll do a little more research.
You won't regret it. I would suggest looking at SouthernCarParts (forum vendor). He sells the 9500i bundled with the Great Lakes mount (securely mounts to the screw that goes through the visor and keeps the detector up and out of the way) and the 12" Invisicord which powers it off of the mirror and allows the detector to turn on and off when you start/shut down the car. You can get the bundle for $450 w/ free shipping from him.
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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You won't regret it. I would suggest looking at SouthernCarParts (forum vendor). He sells the 9500i bundled with the Great Lakes mount (securely mounts to the screw that goes through the visor and keeps the detector up and out of the way) and the 12" Invisicord which powers it off of the mirror and allows the detector to turn on and off when you start/shut down the car. You can get the bundle for $450 w/ free shipping from him.
Good to know. That's a great price for the bundle. I'll definitely head to SouthernCarParts if I decide to order it (must consult wife ).
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 01:41 AM
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Here's my thing.

I like escort's gps and adaptive filter. It's a natural evolution and will only get better. (btw, I wondered why no radar-GPS long before escort even introduced it.)

But here's the deal...the front, side or behind thing is also a VERY important feature to avoid a citation.

Escorts saved me many times...yet I feel blind to quickly knowing where the threat is. And yes, I know how to use signal characteristics to eventually guess the direction...eventually...in some situations...maybe.

Some say directional detection is locked up by valentine patent. How can a patent be so iron-clad that escort inc. can't crack it or even have they tried? Do they even consider directional information important?

I don't get it. You see a good idea get's sold over and over in many forms, from different businesses in different mutations...but THE same idea. Many also have patent protection. Then a radar detector idea as obvious as directional detection and nope. Nobody can develop or sell it except valentine because of a kyrptonite protected patent. Forever for all time period? People debate valentine vs escort like the next president. Implying you have only one choice, democrat or rebublican.

Bogus. I'd rather not buy two detectors to do the the work of one. And have both alerting me only to sort thru all that conflicting information while I'm driving. Woud you? Especially when technology can easily, and yes easily do it all in one.

Com'on people! Should we just accept status quo because someone says vote valentine or escort? Why not think outside your old party platform or loyalty to brand lines?

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by lvjetboy
Here's my thing.

I like escort's gps and adaptive filter. It's a natural evolution and will only get better. (btw, I wondered why no radar-GPS long before escort even introduced it.)

But here's the deal...the front, side or behind thing is also a VERY important feature to avoid a citation.

Escorts saved me many times...yet I feel blind to quickly knowing where the threat is. And yes, I know how to use signal characteristics to eventually guess the direction...eventually.

Some say directional detection is locked up by valentine patent. How can a patent be so iron-clad that escort inc. can't crack it? Have they tried? Do they even consider directional information important?

I don't get it. You see a good idea get's sold over and over in many forms, from different businesses in different mutations...but THE same idea. Some with patent protection. Then a radar detector idea as obvious as directional detection and nope. Nobody can do it except valentine because of a kyrptonite protected patent. Forever for all time period? People debate valentine vs escort like the next president. Implying you have only one choice, democrate or rebublican.

Bogus. I'd rather not buy two detectors to do the the work of one. Especially when technology can easily and yes easily do it all in one.

Com'on people! Should we just accept status quo because someone says vote valentine or escort?

jer
Maybe they just aren't interested in the arrows, I had a V1, not once did the arrows prove advantageous. I have a 9500i now and I am much happier. And it is good to see V1 henchman BRENTVINO 169 back again, he has over 300 posts and they are all hyping the V1 and www.guysofLIEdor.com

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Racer44
Maybe they just aren't interested in the arrows, I had a V1, not once did the arrows prove advantageous. I have a 9500i now and I am much happier. And it is good to see V1 henchman BRENTVINO 169 back again, he has over 300 posts and they are all hyping the V1 and www.guysofLIEdor.com
haha no lie! I've never seen so many dedicated posts to one topic and one brand and website. He either works for valentine or owns the guysoflidar website.

Brent, you make me laugh
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Racer44
Maybe they just aren't interested in the arrows, I had a V1, not once did the arrows prove advantageous.
I've used escort for the last 14 years. Never used a v1. Don't know BRENTVINO 169 or care who he promotes.

More important, why do you think directional information is not worthwhile? Is it because v1's arrows aren't reliable? Or because you care less about where the threat comes from?

When I'm driving I sure as h*ll want to know if the radar is in front or behind me. That tells me to look at my screen traffic ahead or behind. That tells me to slow down RIGHT NOW or moderate my speed as needed.

As I posted, sometimes I can tell from the escort signal behavior if the source is in front or behind but it's not a sure thing. It takes time for me to judge signal strength variation, speed and potential reflection. And I'd rather not worry about trying to figure reflection strength depending on bridges or semi-trucks, closure rate and signal duration to guess if the threat is in front or behind me while I'm driving.

Is that not important to you?

jer

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 96Magnuson
I own both the 9500 and valentine..In the city around town the 9500 hands down because it will learn all the CVS automatic doors ,but on the highway the Valentine IS more sensitive and will pick up the signal before the 9500. Is the 9500 good enough for the highway?Absolutely..
95% of my driving is city driving so it sounds like the 9500 is better for me
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Originally Posted by lvjetboy
I've used escort for the last 14 years. Never used a v1. Don't know BRENTVINO 169 or care who he promotes.

More important, why do you think directional information is not worthwhile? Is it because v1's arrows aren't reliable? Or because you care less about where the threat comes from?

When I'm driving I sure as h*ll want to know if the radar is in front or behind me. That tells me to look at my screen traffic ahead or behind. That tells me to slow down RIGHT NOW or moderate my speed as needed.

As I posted, sometimes I can tell from the escort signal behavior if the source is in front or behind but it's not a sure thing. It takes time for me to judge signal strength variation, speed and potential reflection. And I'd rather not worry about trying to figure reflection strength depending on bridges or semi-trucks, closure rate and signal duration to guess if the threat is in front or behind me while I'm driving.

Is that not important to you?

jer
Actually, no it isn't. No matter which detector goes off I initiially slow down, (arrows or no arrows) then determine. I can just as quickly determine what threat I have by type of signal, strength of signal, and the tone of the signal as to wheather the threat is coming, going or staying with me. Oh, and with the V1, I was always hitting the brakes on all those false alarms I was getting with the 9500i gps lockout feature, I don't get a lot of those signals that wear out my brakes, slow me down and annoy the hell out of me. Like I said, been there done that, this is the choice I went with and NO REGRETS.
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Originally Posted by 08CRMVert
You won't regret it. I would suggest looking at SouthernCarParts (forum vendor). He sells the 9500i bundled with the Great Lakes mount (securely mounts to the screw that goes through the visor and keeps the detector up and out of the way) and the 12" Invisicord which powers it off of the mirror and allows the detector to turn on and off when you start/shut down the car. You can get the bundle for $450 w/ free shipping from him.
I just checked this out and they are now offering a new model, the 9500ix, shipping in october. i think i am ordering, thanks for the tip
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Racer44
Actually, no it isn't. No matter which detector goes off I initiially slow down, (arrows or no arrows) then determine. I can just as quickly determine what threat I have by type of signal, strength of signal, and the tone of the signal as to wheather the threat is coming, going or staying with me. Oh, and with the V1, I was always hitting the brakes on all those false alarms I was getting with the 9500i gps lockout feature, I don't get a lot of those signals that wear out my brakes, slow me down and annoy the hell out of me. Like I said, been there done that, this is the choice I went with and NO REGRETS.
Racer44 no doubt has another benefit from his 9500i, because he lives in Canada. Radar detectors are legal in his province, but not in others. The 9500i cannot be detected by police using "detector detectors" and the V1 can. That would be a very big deal for me!

On the other hand I've used the V1 so long that there's no way I would give up the arrows and legality isn't an issue for me way out west in the USA.

As for sensitivity, I've seen tests of both units where they detected at over 9 miles every time! Both are excellent detectors.

Different strokes for different folks!
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2 months ago, a cop in CALIF. was hiding and nailed me from behind and while he was writing the ticket i said to my wife i wish i knew where this bastard was hiding at. right then and there i knew i had to get me that V1 since it had the arrows to locate and you guys postings your opinions. thanks guys
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This morning I was driving on one of our local busy streets in Plano, when I got a laser warning from the front. Didn't see anything, but I was doing the speed limit.

A couple of seconds later, my V1 indicated Laser from the rear! A "concealed" motorcycle officer was shooting cars after they passed as well as on-coming traffic to him!

The V1 picked up the reflected laser from the license plates from cars in front of me.

I was exactly at the speed limit of 40, so not worried. He pulled over the car that was passing me to the right.

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Originally Posted by Vetteinplano
This morning I was driving on one of our local busy streets in Plano, when I got a laser warning from the front. Didn't see anything, but I was doing the speed limit.

A couple of seconds later, my V1 indicated Laser from the rear! A "concealed" motorcycle officer was shooting cars after they passed as well as on-coming traffic to him!

The V1 picked up the reflected laser from the license plates from cars in front of me.

I was exactly at the speed limit of 40, so not worried. He pulled over the car that was passing me to the right.
I once had frickin sharks with laser beams strapped to their heads hitting me from all over the place, my 9500i picked up all of the signals. Found out later they were just sea bass.
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Originally Posted by MARVIN 34
2 months ago, a cop in CALIF. was hiding and nailed me from behind and while he was writing the ticket i said to my wife i wish i knew where this bastard was hiding at. right then and there i knew i had to get me that V1 since it had the arrows to locate and you guys postings your opinions. thanks guys
So had you known where he was, you would've been able to not get a ticket? No matter where the radar is coming from, you either know about it or you don't and you either slow down or you don't. No matter where the radar is coming from I make sure I'm going to the speed limit.
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Originally Posted by 08CRMVert
So had you known where he was, you would've been able to not get a ticket? No matter where the radar is coming from, you either know about it or you don't and you either slow down or you don't. No matter where the radar is coming from I make sure I'm going to the speed limit.
my V1 came the other day, i wont leave home without it, my 1st ticket in 7 years .



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