Radar Dectector Du Jour?
Racer
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 462
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From: Las Vegas NV
No matter which detector goes off I initiially slow down, (arrows or no arrows) then determine. I can just as quickly determine what threat I have by type of signal, strength of signal, and the tone of the signal as to wheather the threat is coming, going or staying with me.
To instead rely on signal strength, variation in intensity and duration along with yours or my experience and judgement of how those things indicate a front or rear shot then eventually figure out threat direction is by nature a crap shoot. It takes too long and leads to unnecessary break wear and wasted gas.
Although I can often figure direction given enough time and a lazy cop leaving his radar on long enough to judge signal strength variation or reflected signals from road signs or semi's, I've rather my escort tell me first hit if he's in front or behind. The more accurate information we have the better we avoid the threat.
And why not?
I'm not talking about overload information like having two detectors going off on my dash to do the work of one. And I'm certainly not saying v1 is better or worse than escort. I've never used the v1.
What I'm saying is I like escort but I also want the directional feature of v1. Is that so hard?
jer
Racer
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 426
Likes: 0
From: Westminster CO
Well V1 patented the arrows and the bidirectional radar sensing. I'm sure once that patent is up then Escort will implement the same thing. I'm guessing Escort also patented the GPS in the radar detector in order to help guard against false alarms, speed cameras, speed traps, etc.
If V1 would come out with that in their product, I'd buy that one.
If V1 would come out with that in their product, I'd buy that one.
Team Owner
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 25,013
Likes: 80
From: Manitoba/San Jose del Cabo
Cruise-In III Veteran
St. Jude Donor '11
My point: Why not use directional electronic detection technology to quickly know where the threat is?
To instead rely on signal strength, variation in intensity and duration along with yours or my experience and judgement of how those things indicate a front or rear shot then eventually figure out threat direction is by nature a crap shoot. It takes too long and leads to unnecessary break wear and wasted gas.
Although I can often figure direction given enough time and a lazy cop leaving his radar on long enough to judge signal strength variation or reflected signals from road signs or semi's, I've rather my escort tell me first hit if he's in front or behind. The more accurate information we have the better we avoid the threat.
And why not?
I'm not talking about overload information like having two detectors going off on my dash to do the work of one. And I'm certainly not saying v1 is better or worse than escort. I've never used the v1.
What I'm saying is I like escort but I also want the directional feature of v1. Is that so hard?
jer
To instead rely on signal strength, variation in intensity and duration along with yours or my experience and judgement of how those things indicate a front or rear shot then eventually figure out threat direction is by nature a crap shoot. It takes too long and leads to unnecessary break wear and wasted gas.
Although I can often figure direction given enough time and a lazy cop leaving his radar on long enough to judge signal strength variation or reflected signals from road signs or semi's, I've rather my escort tell me first hit if he's in front or behind. The more accurate information we have the better we avoid the threat.
And why not?
I'm not talking about overload information like having two detectors going off on my dash to do the work of one. And I'm certainly not saying v1 is better or worse than escort. I've never used the v1.
What I'm saying is I like escort but I also want the directional feature of v1. Is that so hard?
jer
Racer
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 462
Likes: 8
From: Las Vegas NV
Not hard at all... also not necessary to have the arrows at all, they are really just a gimmick, as I said, just talking from experience. You can type all the high tech stuff you want, you will NEVER change my mind, why?? Because I have had the V1, I know how it works, I know how the arrows work, It is a great detector, the arrows are no better than the nice lady that lives in my 9500i that if I so choose to let her, she will tell many how many signals, which signals I am getting and show me all the bands, frequencies, strengths etc. For so many reasons, that have been said so many times, by so many people, the 9500i features far outweigh those hyped up arrows. By the way, for some of the posters who are misinformed, the 9500i also provides rear laser protection, just throwing that out there as it was one of the arguments why the V1 was so great.
Back to the arrows. I'm not trying to change your mind or others, just speaking my own. I also don't know about the nice lady in your escort. With my escort I enable or defeat features on my own. I like those features and I've relied on escort radar protection for a long time. I'd never consider a V1 at least until he cleans up the ugly crude looking box.
That doesn't mean I think direction sensing (arrows) are worthless.
With your V1 experience...are you saying the direction sensing of the V1 is unreliable? Or that you don't need to know where the radar is because you already know at first alert?
Or do you hit the brakes first alert no matter where the threat?
jer
Last edited by lvjetboy; Aug 31, 2008 at 05:27 AM.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jun 2007
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Although I've had a V1 for about 8 months, it took me about this long to learn how to use it effectively. I do most of my driving in the city where I rarely exceed the speed limit so I agree that the false alarms are very annoying. I usually do not even mount it in the city.
However, last week I took a 1200 mile trip on the Interstate up the center of California, where I drove much of the way exceeding the posted limit. The V1 arrows saved me.
Near Stockton on the I5 North, I was cruising about 90mph (posted was 70) when the V1 lit up with 1 Ka boogey ahead. As I passed the California Highway Patrol (CHP) who had an unfortunate traveler at the side of the road, the beeping slowed down and started to fade, but another Ka boogey lit up on the V1 pointing ahead, so instead of regaining my speed, I kept it below 70 and sure enough around the next bend was another CHP sitting under a bridge waiting for some sucker to fly by. Had it not been for the V1 arrows w/ the boogey counter, I would have thought the first CHP was the only one.
However, last week I took a 1200 mile trip on the Interstate up the center of California, where I drove much of the way exceeding the posted limit. The V1 arrows saved me.
Near Stockton on the I5 North, I was cruising about 90mph (posted was 70) when the V1 lit up with 1 Ka boogey ahead. As I passed the California Highway Patrol (CHP) who had an unfortunate traveler at the side of the road, the beeping slowed down and started to fade, but another Ka boogey lit up on the V1 pointing ahead, so instead of regaining my speed, I kept it below 70 and sure enough around the next bend was another CHP sitting under a bridge waiting for some sucker to fly by. Had it not been for the V1 arrows w/ the boogey counter, I would have thought the first CHP was the only one.
Instructor
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 158
Likes: 3
From: New Egypt NJ
Anybody heard of the K40 by Calibre or know anything about it? A coworker who owns a BMW (former C5 and trying to get a C6) swears by them. They're hardwired into the car with separate front and rear detectors.
Pro
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
From: Hazlehurst GA
$$$$$$$ about 1k plus installation. Not portable either. Sell the car and you pay uninstall fee.
I've been watching this thread as I prepare to pay $85 Tuesday for 88 in a 70. Laser on a bridge. Like the previous post said "just pull over". My experience in Georgia is detectors guarantee a ticket a year. Myself and several friends have beat this horse and agreed that the false sense of security they offer in Georgia, with the anyway goes rules that are allowed by the traffic enforcement laws here, minimize the value of detectors of any brand or kind. Laser, instant on radar and VASCAR are used with great effectiveness in different parts of the state. Used to be that if you were in moderate traffic on I-75, you could beat it all, but Laser had killed that. The only saving grace is that you get no points for 14MPH over the posted limit and under tickets and if you go to court on a borderline ticket, you can usually get a reduction. I should know!
FWIW, I'm gonna replace my 8500 with the 9500x in October for an increased sense of false security!
I've been watching this thread as I prepare to pay $85 Tuesday for 88 in a 70. Laser on a bridge. Like the previous post said "just pull over". My experience in Georgia is detectors guarantee a ticket a year. Myself and several friends have beat this horse and agreed that the false sense of security they offer in Georgia, with the anyway goes rules that are allowed by the traffic enforcement laws here, minimize the value of detectors of any brand or kind. Laser, instant on radar and VASCAR are used with great effectiveness in different parts of the state. Used to be that if you were in moderate traffic on I-75, you could beat it all, but Laser had killed that. The only saving grace is that you get no points for 14MPH over the posted limit and under tickets and if you go to court on a borderline ticket, you can usually get a reduction. I should know!
FWIW, I'm gonna replace my 8500 with the 9500x in October for an increased sense of false security!
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Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Bradenton, FL & Chandler AZ
St. Jude Donor '09
I just ordered my V1, the mirror mount, and the invisicord and cannot wait to get them and install them. Here in AZ I used to be able to drive pretty fast w/o fear of LEOs as most of the area was deserted 5 years ago. Now it is very different. The population has increased 10 fold, or so it seems, around my city. Now there are more LEOs, cameras, remote photo units, and just yesterday I heard that they are clocking your speed by aircraft and then radioing a unit ahead to stop the speeder. I do not know how the V1 will fare with all these threads.