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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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I have 45 K on my 2005. The dealer recommends changing my brake fluid and my power steering fluid. Should I have it done (not necessarily at the dealer)? If I don't have it done will my car explode and I die? Just call me a mechanical neophyte. Thanks in advance. What a car! What a country!
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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I have never done that with any car I have ever owned. Even cars in which I have driven over 100K miles. What does the owners manual recommend?
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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Germans are really behind changing their brake fluid every couple of years due to moisture that is collected in the brake lines. Never heard of the power steering fluid being changed unless something was being replaced.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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There are recommended intervals for changing the various fluids. Some are really long. Brake fluid change is not a bad idea every two years. One sensor going bad due to dirt or moisture can be a bummer. PS to prevent the ailments it could suffer might not be a bad idea but to me, not as critical as brakes.

I'd also suggest the trans, either manual or automatic, to have fluid changed out. May not be critical to do so, but that's your call.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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Axles are usually not required to be changed for their lifetime but I usually change mine every 40k or so. I just worry about the dealer failing to put the additive in. Then I go find a parking lot and do some figure 8s just incase they didn't. Which I rather they don't anyways.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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I would do what the manual recommends. Dealer is out to scare you and make dollars to survive.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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Dealer is out to scare you and make dollars to survive.
That's pretty much it.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:59 AM
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I would do what the manual recommends. Dealer is out to scare you and make dollars to survive.
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Not a bad idea to change the brake fluid after two years. Brake fluid has properties that promote the absorption of moisture and can cause damage to brake parts or cause the fluid to boil at a lower temperature due to the moisture content.

I installed quick bleeders on my calipers and changed my C5 fluid myself.

Never heard of a recommended interval for power steering fluid change. If you intend this to be the last vette you ever buy and will keep it for a long time any fluid you change will be a good idea.

My C5 had a 25,000 mile recommended change interval for the differential fluid. I did this myself.

Not certain what the interval for the dif is on the C6.

You can get a print out of the true recommended fluid change intervals from the service department.
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Change it. Wont hurt anything ! Why resist for a few bucks ??

I have 87,000 miles on my 05 and have changed everything at least once. Typically go 150,000 miles plus on Vettes. Its cheap insurance and peace of mind. I've also changed air filters twice and orderred third set yesterday.Clean fluids and clean air = longevity !

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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 01:35 AM
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GM had 500 engineers and two tech writers working to prepare your owner's manual. Read it. Believe it. Follow it. Dealer is just trying to squeeze some extra money out of you.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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GM had 500 engineers and two tech writers working to prepare your owner's manual. Read it. Believe it. Follow it. Dealer is just trying to squeeze some extra money out of you.
Don't have my manual with me to check, but if GM doesn't ever tell you to change the brake fluid, that's a significant error. Some high speed track events will require new brake fluid within two WEEKS of the event because of water absorption which greatly lowers the boiling point of the brake fluid. Over a longer period of time, also tends to promote corrosion in the brake system. I do my normal cars every two years, the 'vette every Spring before autocross season.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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Brake fluid will pick up moisture and other undesirable contaminants. what this will do is as the moisture increased the boiling point of the fluid goes down. If you ever get the brakes really hot and boil the fluid, guess what? no brakes. Another downside is that all that moisture can rust pit the cylinder bores in the brake calipers which can trash the calipers. If you have ever seen the brake fluid that comes out of a system that has been in service for several years you could see exactly what I mean. I always change my fluid in all my vehicles about every two years regardless of the mileage. Change the brake fluid for sure, not so sure about the PS fluid.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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I would bleed the brake system, change the power steering fluid, change the clutch fluid, engine oil, transmission fluid and differential lubricant. Pretty much everything, but then again, im pretty obsessive about my vette. Some people never do anything past changing the engine oil, not even, and their cars dont necessarily fall apart. However, i prefer preventive maintenance.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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[QUOTE=Mel 2001;1568543545]I would do what the manual recommends.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
Don't have my manual with me to check, but if GM doesn't ever tell you to change the brake fluid, that's a significant error. Some high speed track events will require new brake fluid within two WEEKS of the event because of water absorption which greatly lowers the boiling point of the brake fluid. Over a longer period of time, also tends to promote corrosion in the brake system. I do my normal cars every two years, the 'vette every Spring before autocross season.
I agree with you on the importance of changing your brake fluid after a track event, but I have to point out that there is absolutely nothing about tracking your car that will cause water absorption to occur (unless you track it under water )... The reason is because during extensive hard braking the brake fluid can be exposed to enough heat that it begins breaking down...
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I would also recommend a trans flush at no more then 50K, along with the brake flush. Even a highway driven car with no track days will have very discolored fluid in it by then. Keep in mind power steering fluid is very close to trans fluid, so it will look nasty after that many miles. It gets hot, just like anything else on the car and should be changed.

Keep in mind that an indpendent shop probably does not have the correct tools for a brake bleed. To do it right a Tech II is needed so that you can perform the automated bleed procedure. Without it, the fluid in the ABS unit will never be bled out. The Tech II cycles all the ABS motors and valves while you crack one bleeder at a time, forcing the old dirty fluid in the ABS unit out through the lines. To do the procedure correctly and completely, this is done twice and uses about a pint of fluid each time.

You payed all this money for the car, so why not take extra good care of it along the way.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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... but I have to point out that there is absolutely nothing about tracking your car that will cause water absorption to occur (unless you track it under water
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That's good!
I was trying to say that I want to minimize the possibility of fluid boiling when I get the brakes hotter than normal...
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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I don't think anyone would say that changing brake fluid was a bad idea.
I did not get concerned about brake fluid on other cars in the past, but I had to replace the master cylinder on my 2004 Z06, and I am now convinced that it was at least partially due to contamination of the fluid. I flushed the whole system, and now refresh the reservoir fluid whenever it starts looking discolored, just like I do with the clutch fluid.
I am not as concerned about the boiling point being lowered as I am contaminants accumulating.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerLabs
I agree with you on the importance of changing your brake fluid after a track event, but I have to point out that there is absolutely nothing about tracking your car that will cause water absorption to occur (unless you track it under water )... The reason is because during extensive hard braking the brake fluid can be exposed to enough heat that it begins breaking down...
Don't think anyone was saying a track event causes water absorption. They were saying you need fresh fluid for the event because if the fluid has already absorbed too much moisture, it can lower the boiling point of the fluid, and result in brake failure on the track.
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