Shifter Knobs for MGW?
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Shifter ***** for MGW?
I'm thinking about getting the MGW shifter, and while looking at some old posts about it, I found one that said a heavier **** helps with shifting.
Is this true? I'd always thought the ***** were for appearance, but if they can help with shifting ease, I want to get one.
If I replace the ****, I would like it to look like it fits with the interior of the car (i.e no flaming skulls or anything). Can anyone make recommendations on understated ***** that will improve the shifting experience?
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Tom
Is this true? I'd always thought the ***** were for appearance, but if they can help with shifting ease, I want to get one.
If I replace the ****, I would like it to look like it fits with the interior of the car (i.e no flaming skulls or anything). Can anyone make recommendations on understated ***** that will improve the shifting experience?
TIA,
Tom
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I'm thinking about getting the MGW shifter, and while looking at some old posts about it, I found one that said a heavier **** helps with shifting.
Is this true? I'd always thought the ***** were for appearance, but if they can help with shifting ease, I want to get one.
If I replace the ****, I would like it to look like it fits with the interior of the car (i.e no flaming skulls or anything). Can anyone make recommendations on understated ***** that will improve the shifting experience?
TIA,
Tom
Is this true? I'd always thought the ***** were for appearance, but if they can help with shifting ease, I want to get one.
If I replace the ****, I would like it to look like it fits with the interior of the car (i.e no flaming skulls or anything). Can anyone make recommendations on understated ***** that will improve the shifting experience?
TIA,
Tom
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St. Jude Donor '09
We sell the carbon fiber **** that is heaver than stock and is a great match. We will have some new styles in a few days, including a sold aluminum and a derilin ****. Our ***** are the only OEM fit on the market (mounts with the OEM screw and holds up the shifter boot)Weight is not the key to stopping the rattle/buzz, a good fitting **** is 
www.nakidparts.com
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I respectfully disagree that the fit not weight is the solution to the rattle. I recently installed the 09 gimbal MGW shifter on a Z with an isolated C6 shifter box. The new MGW mounting for a C6 type of side screw **** literally had a press fit to get the **** over the polymer lined shaft (I had to really bear down and twist to get the **** on). The stock C6 ****, light delrin **** and the Hurst **** that I made a modified C6 mount for all rattled. I replaced the light **** with a heavier stainless **** and the rattle was gone. This is basic vibration engineering, mass either less or more can move the natural harmonic (rattle) of an item subjected to vibratory input to a frequency that is not present.
If the buzz/rattle is caused by the shifter (as in many of the MGW issues) that rattle/buzz is IMO caused by the gap in the pivot ball that fits in the shift rod. This is easily proved in cold area as my shifter never makes any sound in warm weather and buzzes like crazy below 32deg when both the material get harder and the gap gets larger. In that case weight will do nothing and may even make it worse
You have to give George and MGW major praise for sticking by the products and taking the steps necessary to resolve the issues.
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That's fine. I am not stating anything other than my own experiences, I am not claiming to be "kind of an expert" or the first to do anything. I have progressed through all of George's shifters from their inception and he is doing superb work and is a total asset to Corvette enthusiasts, his shifter is the best. It is a tough balance to achieve precision along with vibration control. I feel his latest gimbal shifter is the best yet. I am not selling anything, I am a mechanical engineer with a couple of decades in the experimental mechanics field. I simply applied a classical textbook solution to a vibration problem and it was solved. The solution was attempted by me through both fit and mass. I tried a light **** with several side set screws, a variety of bonded attempts and several types of wedge mechanisms. Only mass solved my issues.
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Thanks guys!! I'm actualy less concerned about fixing the rattle than I am about the shifting ease you get from the counterweight. So even if it increases rattle, I think I would prefer heavier. Plus I might not hear the rattle with my top down. 
What is the weight of the pipedreams and MGW *****?
Also, does anyone know the benefit of an MGW race **** versus an MGW gripper ****?
Also I apologize to the forum vendors for previously posting a link to the a non-forum vendor.
Here's a very long thread I found from a member who has a 1 lb **** and is very happy. I'm not sure I like the perfectly round, mirrored look, though.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...ket-about.html
What is the weight of the pipedreams and MGW *****?
Also, does anyone know the benefit of an MGW race **** versus an MGW gripper ****?
Also I apologize to the forum vendors for previously posting a link to the a non-forum vendor.
Here's a very long thread I found from a member who has a 1 lb **** and is very happy. I'm not sure I like the perfectly round, mirrored look, though.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...ket-about.html
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Many do not know that the stock **** is weighted, see picture below, has a steel weight.
The stock is 130g, our Hurst 135g, our skull 145g and the carbon is 155g. Just a note, a metal **** will be burning hot in the summer and ice cold in the winter
OEM shift **** cut open
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Thanks guys!! I'm actualy less concerned about fixing the rattle than I am about the shifting ease you get from the counterweight. So even if it increases rattle, I think I would prefer heavier. Plus I might not hear the rattle with my top down.
What is the weight of the pipedreams and MGW *****?
Also, does anyone know the benefit of an MGW race **** versus an MGW gripper ****?
Also I apologize to the forum vendors for previously posting a link to the a non-forum vendor.
Here's a very long thread I found from a member who has a 1 lb **** and is very happy. I'm not sure I like the perfectly round, mirrored look, though.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...ket-about.html
What is the weight of the pipedreams and MGW *****?
Also, does anyone know the benefit of an MGW race **** versus an MGW gripper ****?
Also I apologize to the forum vendors for previously posting a link to the a non-forum vendor.
Here's a very long thread I found from a member who has a 1 lb **** and is very happy. I'm not sure I like the perfectly round, mirrored look, though.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...ket-about.html
I found that you need about 300 grams to start taming a car that exhibits shifter rattle (1 pound is 455 grams). I think that that the MGW ***** are around 300 grams maybe more, they are moderately hefty and comfortable.
For the shift momentum effect which you are referring to I feel you need at least a pound. I have a **** which is close to 2 pounds and it is a dream to shift quickly with. The momentum it provides gives you complete confidence in your shifts.
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Personaly I have tried the 1lb **** and it's complete overkill IMO on the C6. Considering the short throw, (which all but cancels any inertia benefits anyway) the super smooth action of the MGW and the effortless shifting of the C6 transmission, I have never felt it was any effort to shift the C6 in the first place, do you?
If someone have an MGW **** and can weight it let me know, the one I felt was much closer to 150g. Thanks Modshack, the MGW Round Gripper ****: 179 Grams
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I found that you need about 300 grams to start taming a car that exhibits shifter rattle (1 pound is 455 grams). I think that that the MGW ***** are around 300 grams maybe more, they are moderately hefty and comfortable.
For the shift momentum effect which you are referring to I feel you need at least a pound. I have a **** which is close to 2 pounds and it is a dream to shift quickly with. The momentum it provides gives you complete confidence in your shifts.
For the shift momentum effect which you are referring to I feel you need at least a pound. I have a **** which is close to 2 pounds and it is a dream to shift quickly with. The momentum it provides gives you complete confidence in your shifts.
You need about 1lb or 454 grams to tame shifter rattle and assist in shift momentum. Mine is 485 grams.
At 485 grams, this solid billet **** is better than 3.5 times as heavy as the stock 130 gram ****. And flat out gets the job done. The metal weight in the stock **** is a joke.
Many do not know that the stock **** is weighted, see picture below, has a steel weight.
The stock is 130g, our Hurst 135g, our skull 145g and the carbon is 155g. Just a note, a metal **** will be burning hot in the summer and ice cold in the winter
OEM shift **** cut open
The stock is 130g, our Hurst 135g, our skull 145g and the carbon is 155g. Just a note, a metal **** will be burning hot in the summer and ice cold in the winter
OEM shift **** cut open
I also have a an MGW Race **** and an MGW Gripper ****.
As far as the heat and cold associated with the solid billet metal ****.
Well, on hot days, if the car has been parked in the sun all day with the windows up, the **** will of course get hot. On cold days, the converse is true.
I am very **** about the inside appearence of my car, and the mirrored finish **** attracts hand prints as well. Another "drawback".
So I have taken to traveling with a microfiber towel in the console.
This not only comes in handy for my pet peeve about hand prints on the **** when I finish driving the car, it also comes in handy on those very rare days when the **** is uncomfortably hot after the windows have been up all day and the car parked in the summer sun.
I just place the towel over the **** if I need it, and drive the car. After a few minutes of driving, the **** reaches cabin temperature and its not an issue.
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