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Old May 19, 2009 | 02:54 AM
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I noticed it with my '07 coupe. Very disconcerting and you can even see the headlights kinda dancing around. Slowing down or to a lesser extent speeding up seems to help. As far as I can tell it's due to wind hitting the car but I'm not sure yet. Can wheel alignment cause that kind of shaking?

Just making sure it's normal rather than something that should be checked. My Altima was silky smooth even well into the triple digits. My GPS told me the Altima hit 145 and I didn't know it
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Old May 19, 2009 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Elotemuygrande
I noticed it with my '07 coupe. Very disconcerting and you can even see the headlights kinda dancing around. Slowing down or to a lesser extent speeding up seems to help. As far as I can tell it's due to wind hitting the car but I'm not sure yet. Can wheel alignment cause that kind of shaking?

Just making sure it's normal rather than something that should be checked. My Altima was silky smooth even well into the triple digits. My GPS told me the Altima hit 145 and I didn't know it
Sounds like wheel alignment. Did you change the tire recently, or has it always been this way?

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Old May 19, 2009 | 03:24 AM
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Sounds like wheel balance (rather than alignment). My C6 has developed a habit (OK, it's done it twice in 2 months) of losing balance weights on the driver's side front wheel. When that happens you get really horrible vibration over 80mph.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 04:32 AM
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I've been having that as well lately. Had a balance/alignment done twice at the dealer within the past 2 weeks. It's gotten better, but still does it. My tires are starting to look like crap(Since March).
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Old May 19, 2009 | 05:04 AM
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Welcome! Get the balance checked then just for good measure get the alignment checked also.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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Wheel balance for the most part. If you have adnormal tire wear and never an alingment it could make the condition worse
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Old May 19, 2009 | 08:24 AM
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This is a common problem when you put on fancy aftermarket wheels.

The OE wheels have a countersunk area on the inside around the lug holes. These recesses allow the Tinnerman nuts that hold the rotors on to fit into the wheel and allows the wheel to fit flush against the hub.

The Tinnerman nuts are put on simply to temporarily hold the rotors on while the car is coming down the assembly line until calipers and wheels are bolted on. They are not required at all and should be removed when you take the wheels off.

Many aftermarket wheels don't have the countersunk area, so if the Tinnerman nuts are on there the wheel won't seat flush with the hub and no amount of balancing or aligning will stop the high speed vibration.

So....if you have aftermarket wheels, remove those temporary rotor retention nuts.

C6XTACY, looking at your avatar, I bet that would solve your problem.

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Old May 19, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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Wheel balance for the most part. If you have adnormal tire wear and never an alingment it could make the condition worse
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I don't know about all of that. My HRE 18/19 893R's and 08 black beast are as smooth as silk at 120MPH...let alone 80MPH
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Shake at 80 mph is a wheel balance problem.
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Originally Posted by BEZ06
This is a common problem when you put on fancy aftermarket wheels.

The OE wheels have a countersunk area on the inside around the lug holes. These recesses allow the Tinnerman nuts that hold the rotors on to fit into the wheel and allows the wheel to fit flush against the hub.

The Tinnerman nuts are put on simply to temporarily hold the rotors on while the car is coming down the assembly line until calipers and wheels are bolted on. They are not required at all and should be removed when you take the wheels off.

Many aftermarket wheels don't have the countersunk area, so if the Tinnerman nuts are on there the wheel won't seat flush with the hub and no amount of balancing or aligning will stop the high speed vibration.

So....if you have aftermarket wheels, remove those temporary rotor retention nuts.

C6XTACY, looking at your avatar, I bet that would solve your problem.

Bob
Very interesting piece of info. I will try my best to check those out as soon as I get home!
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Originally Posted by MAJ Z06
Welcome! Get the balance checked then just for good measure get the alignment checked also.
And if after that, it stll does it - check a tire/wheel out of round.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GaryW
Sounds like wheel balance (rather than alignment). My C6 has developed a habit (OK, it's done it twice in 2 months) of losing balance weights on the driver's side front wheel. When that happens you get really horrible vibration over 80mph.
A racers' trick...you gently tap-down the sharp edges of the wheel weights with a small hammer and cover them with HVAC foil (metallic) tape. This keeps the weights from breaking loose and going anywhere.
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Just remember: this is not a set it and forget thing---wheel balancing and alignments don't stay that way forever. It needs to be done every once in awhile. And some places are better at it, or have better equipment, than others.
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I had the same problem with aftermarket wheels.

I had severe shimmy at highway speeds, then popped off the retainers on the rotors which helped, then I got my aftermarket wheels re-balanced, zero'd them out. everything appeared to be fine, then I saw.....ahhhhhhhhhh........the wheels were out of round. when the spun on the balancer, the lip oscilated like 2 to 4 milimeters.....i had to send the wheels back to the manufacturer.
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My father borrowed my 928S4 a few years back, and when he gave it back, he said at a speed much higher than 80 it had a slight vibration. But it smoothed out above that mark. God love'm

I can't say at what speed on the forum.
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I have the HRE wheels. Car only has 8,000 miles, but at 70-80 mph on wet roads, I get heavy vibration. Only seems to do it on wet roads, though. Anybody have that happen to them?
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Have both front tires balanced with a road-force balancer and make sure they clean the inside of your wheels with something like brake clean (sprayed on a towel) so the new weights will stay on.
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I was having an issue with my wheels, but as of right now it doesn't seem to be a problem.

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