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shell vs chevron
Race Director
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Shell's advertising for Nitrogen enriched fuel is simply Bull-Pelosi. The air we breathe is mostly nitrogen. Who do these people think they're fooling. What a bunch of jacka$$es. I will not buy Chevron, as the company is owned by Venezuela's president Chavas, and he's a di*k. But, your issue is most likely mechanical or electrical.
Team Owner
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Shell's advertising for Nitrogen enriched fuel is simply Bull-Pelosi. The air we breathe is mostly nitrogen. Who do these people think they're fooling. What a bunch of jacka$$es. I will not buy Chevron, as the company is owned by Venezuela's president Chavas, and he's a di*k. But, your issue is most likely mechanical or electrical.
About CITGO
From the gasoline that helps your family take vacations to the advanced medical equipment at your community hospital, CITGO is there at every turn.
It's amazing the difference petroleum-based products make in our everyday lives. Based in Houston, Texas, CITGO is a refiner and marketer of transportation fuels, lubricants, petrochemicals and other industrial products. In addition to these products, there's probably a CITGO in your neighborhood, a convenient place to fill up with gas and grab a quick snack.
The company is owned by PDV America, Inc., an indirect, wholly owned subsidiary of Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A., the national oil company of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.
http://www.citgo.com/AboutCITGO.jsp
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Drifting
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Great marketing 'v-power' . Good grief. The gas companies have you folks hooked. Is there anything you won't believe from the gas comapanies. Oh, and GM recommends these, wow. I'm sure that's a true independent recommendation. No colusion here. 
Drifting
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From: Denton The Lone Star State!
Le Mans Master
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From: West coast CA
Just noticed that shell is advertizing "v power" with nitrogen...I've been using chevron with techron for years & have had numerous problems with the fuel system. The dic reads check gauges, I do & the fuel gauge says empty when I'm full. It's been in the shop @ the local dealership twice. First time they recalibrated the sending card, second time they dumped a bottle of fuel system concentrate cleaner in the tank...(do I qualify for the G.M. buy back program?)...they said next time they will drop the tanks etc. & do a VISUAL on all the components & replace what they think is necessary! WTF??? This is their FIRST & ONLY Corvette with this problem. They say it's a fuel problem, I suspect something else. I only use 91 octane, that's all we can get in Calif. Any & all advice would be appreciated!
Find another dealer (if you can - they're getting rare).
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Burning Brakes
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From: Mesa "highlands" AZ
Just as a side note, I moonlighted for awhile helping out a buddy of mine who operates a chain of Shell stations up in Alaska. According to him, and he's been in the retail fuel business for years, Shell V-Power and Chevron's Techron are the same fuel. Apparently the same truck fills both the v-power and techron tanks up there.
Of note.
Of note.
Anyway, to answer and add some correction to the above statement.....
That is not an unusual or unique situation. Most states/cities/areas have a common tank farm for distributionl of US mandated fuels and may use the same fuel trucks for delivery, but on different days. The difference between one manufacturers fuel and another is at that tank farm where the proprietary (techron OR V-power, for example) ingredients are added, during the filling of the tanker truck.
This also has been explained in previous threads. But I also have witnessed this in my area, when I was involved in some marketing research. The research, by a well known company who is involved with a Government bailout
, ultimately yielded a difference in "raw" fuels as well as "burning" characteristics. All were generally a good product. But like sex....some were better than others.
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From: West of Houston Texas
St. Jude Donor '11
Shell 80% of the time - Chevron 20% of the time. Boycott CITGO because of Chavez' political views.
Yes - Shell is foreign owned but they sure give allot of Americans a job and they produce a top quality fuel. As does Chevron. Won't go down the ExxonMobil road - had engine problems with their stuff.
Let's not forget - allot of our oil is imported and the only difference in the gas after it is refined are the additives that the companies use. V-Power - Techron - both good fuel cleaning additives - IMHO.
Yes - Shell is foreign owned but they sure give allot of Americans a job and they produce a top quality fuel. As does Chevron. Won't go down the ExxonMobil road - had engine problems with their stuff.
Let's not forget - allot of our oil is imported and the only difference in the gas after it is refined are the additives that the companies use. V-Power - Techron - both good fuel cleaning additives - IMHO.
Safety Car
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gasoline pipelines
Not many people know this.
There are pipelines for gasoline in certain high traffic areas, along interstate corridors, usually through desolate areas. It is not efficient to ship gas by tanker truck, so they pump it.
For example, along route 15, CA from around San Bernadino to state line Nevada. All the gas you buy, regardless of the "name brand" at the pump is essentually the same. Usually the base brand is Exxon/Mobile or Chevron. A branded station may add its own branded additives at location, but it is all the same.
Here is info:
http://www.calnevpipeline.com/
There are pipelines for gasoline in certain high traffic areas, along interstate corridors, usually through desolate areas. It is not efficient to ship gas by tanker truck, so they pump it.
For example, along route 15, CA from around San Bernadino to state line Nevada. All the gas you buy, regardless of the "name brand" at the pump is essentually the same. Usually the base brand is Exxon/Mobile or Chevron. A branded station may add its own branded additives at location, but it is all the same.
Here is info:
http://www.calnevpipeline.com/
Le Mans Master
Joined: Mar 2009
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From: Chicago
No Chevron in IL. 91 octane only in CA? And the administration wants to make the rest of the country like CA? Oh shi*. That is awful.
By the way everyone Shell 93 octane is at $3.29 a gallon in Chicago and the price increase is on it's way to the rest of you. Change has arrived.
By the way everyone Shell 93 octane is at $3.29 a gallon in Chicago and the price increase is on it's way to the rest of you. Change has arrived.
Burning Brakes
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From: Mesa "highlands" AZ
Not many people know this.
There are pipelines for gasoline in certain high traffic areas, along interstate corridors, usually through desolate areas. It is not efficient to ship gas by tanker truck, so they pump it.
For example, along route 15, CA from around San Bernadino to state line Nevada. All the gas you buy, regardless of the "name brand" at the pump is essentially the same. Usually the base brand is Exxon/Mobile or Chevron. A branded station may add its own branded additives at location, but it is all the same.
Here is info:
http://www.calnevpipeline.com/
There are pipelines for gasoline in certain high traffic areas, along interstate corridors, usually through desolate areas. It is not efficient to ship gas by tanker truck, so they pump it.
For example, along route 15, CA from around San Bernadino to state line Nevada. All the gas you buy, regardless of the "name brand" at the pump is essentially the same. Usually the base brand is Exxon/Mobile or Chevron. A branded station may add its own branded additives at location, but it is all the same.
Here is info:
http://www.calnevpipeline.com/
Do you not wonder if the 8 or 16 inch pipeline from Colton goes to each gas or service station in Las Vegas??? A little ridiculous, isn't it!!
Read your own reference material. It states the pipelines go from Colton to Vegas storage facilities (aka tank farms). The manufacturers blend of proprietary ingredient(s) to the gas, as I stated above, is added there while filling tanker trucks.
But, I believe, all tank farms are serviced by a pipeline.
And, I cannot see a gas station attendant "dumping" a 5 gallon can of additive into his 10,000 gallon tanks when the tanker truck departs.
I may eat crow on this last part, but you better do more research AND understand what you are reading.
