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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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So my right rear with less than 7000k on it decided to get a leak yesterday. I hop in the car and "bing bing bing" 15lbs RR "crap."And i cant find a whole or puncture

so i pump it up to about 25lbs with a bike pump before it gives out and i run to the gas station and fill it up to 35lbs and hope it last a few days.

WRONG

Today i hop in the car and bam back to 25lbs, so down to the gas station again...

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it seams to me when the tire is hot it will only lose about one pound in 8 hours

Cold it loses about 10 over night

SOOOOOOOO

i need an oil change anyway but my dealer is booked and so is the other dealer in town

so im gonna wait on the change but i need at least a patch so im going to the local Goodyear shop

my question is .....Is it wrong to ask to watch them work? and What should i know about how they lift it cuz i dont have pucks? Should i just grab a set of 4 hock pucks at Dicks sports?I dont need them to be on there all the time just for this lift so do i really need i bolts?

any info is much appreciated

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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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I think it's okay to ask to watch, just do it nicely.

Tell them you're a little paranoid about how the car is lifted because the rockers are so easily cracked. Also make sure the have the correct equipment to mount/dismount your runflats without damaging your wheels. Make sure they're runflat certified on the Goodyear website and question them (again nicely) as well.

I don't use the hockey pucks but it seems you need the eye bolts to keep them from moving/slipping. I'd recommned adding the bolts if you're going to use the pucks. First you may want to call the GY store and ask if they have pucks. If they do it will be a good indication that they might know now to lift the car properly, not to mention saving you the hassle.

Good luck.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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I think it's okay to ask to watch, just do it nicely.

Tell them you're a little paranoid about how the car is lifted because the rockers are so easily cracked. Also make sure the have the correct equipment to mount/dismount your runflats without damaging your wheels. Make sure they're runflat certified on the Goodyear website and question them (again nicely) as well.

I don't use the hockey pucks but it seems you need the eye bolts to keep them from moving/slipping. I'd recommned adding the bolts if you're going to use the pucks. First you may want to call the GY store and ask if they have pucks. If they do it will be a good indication that they might know now to lift the car properly, not to mention saving you the hassle.

Good luck.
thanks

this store is at least 25 years old so i think they have lifted a few vettes but i plan to call in the morning and asking about the pucks
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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oh yeah if i have to replace it i would replace both

any suggestions on tires?

what tires do the Z51's run on? I know the run on a different tire than the base now. Would that work?
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Im not a GM goodwrench service guy, but I am a collision repair tech,,, we kinda dislike being watched while we work. I mean,, its very distracting having somebody looking over your shoulder watching your every move,,,, Please go to the waiting area, grab yourself a Road&Track or Motortrend mag and flip through the pages till you find the article about the vette and just leave me alone to do my job, i know what i am doing, let me concentrate and ill do a better, quicker job on your car.

Of course, thats just me, theres some "techs" out there that you Do have to keep an eye on.



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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by spin-doktor
Im not a GM goodwrench service guy, but I am a collision repair tech,,, we kinda dislike being watched while we work. I mean,, its distracting having somebody looking over your shoulder watching your every move,,,, Please go to the waiting area, read a magazine, just leave me alone, i know what i am doing, let me concentrate and ill do a better job on your car.

Of course, thats just me, theres some "techs" out there that you Do have to keep an eye on.
exactly

and i dont know these guys so i dont trust them
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 11:13 PM
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i understand how you feel, i am too very particular about my vette

watch from a safe distance

Or you know what ? Why dont you take the whole wheel off, use your wifes car / your second car / get a ride from your best buddy, and just take it to NTB or the dealer and have them fix it,, instead of having to take your whole car and handing the keys over. Just take the wheel off and all youll have to watch for is nicks or marks on the rim, not scratches, dings or cracked rocker panels.

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Since you need the jacking pucks soon, I would go ahead a get them at Dicks before you go. If you don't need them, you can always return them. On the other hand, they may save your rockers, Btw- I use the hockey pucks on mine all the time and have not experienced any problems.
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Originally Posted by St.Char
Since you need the jacking pucks soon, I would go ahead a get them at Dicks before you go. If you don't need them, you can always return them. On the other hand, they may save your rockers, Btw- I use the hockey pucks on mine all the time and have not experienced any problems.
with the i hooks?
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Originally Posted by spin-doktor
i understand how you feel, i am too very particular about my vette

watch from a safe distance

Or you know what ? Why dont you take the whole wheel off, use your wifes car / your second car / get a ride from your best buddy, and just take it to NTB or the dealer and have them fix it,, instead of having to take your whole car and handing the keys over. Just take the wheel off and all youll have to watch for is nicks or marks on the rim, not scratches, dings or cracked rocker panels.
i dont have that ability i dont have an air gun
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by St.Char
Since you need the jacking pucks soon, I would go ahead a get them at Dicks before you go. If you don't need them, you can always return them. On the other hand, they may save your rockers, Btw- I use the hockey pucks on mine all the time and have not experienced any problems.
never have had any problems with mine or the ones i work on. use plain old pucks from dicks.
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never have had any problems with mine or the ones i work on. use plain old pucks from dicks.
no i hooks?
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Originally Posted by Fonzijr1964
i dont have that ability i dont have an air gun
You don't need an air gun, but it is nice to have a torque wrench. That is another reason I took the tires in separately when new ones were needed... That way I knew the tires were torqued to 100 ft/lbs when I put them back on.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by heisnuts
You don't need an air gun, but it is nice to have a torque wrench. That is another reason I took the tires in separately when new ones were needed... That way I knew the tires were torqued to 100 ft/lbs when I put them back on.
i dont have one of those either
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I wish you had filled out your location so I could direct you to the right regional subforum.

This is always a concern when having someone else to work on your Corvette. One thing you can do is to seek recommendation in your regional subforum. Heck, if you ask nicely enough, someone may be willing to volunteer his/her time to help you take off the wheel and take it to a recommended shop.
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My car came with cracked rocker panels brand new! Actually, the flap near the spot where the pick goes has a crack in it, so it is no big deal at all.

My opinion is that all rocker panels will eventually get cracked...just depends on whether it is visible when the car is lowered or not. Having said that, I would still not want to worry about it.

As for tires, go to www.tirerack.com, setup an account, setup your car, and then look at tires that fit your car. Read the reviews on them. Also, lots of tire reviews here in these forums as well.
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Originally Posted by Wah
I wish you had filled out your location so I could direct you to the right regional subforum.

This is always a concern when having someone else to work on your Corvette. One thing you can do is to seek recommendation in your regional subforum. Heck, if you ask nicely enough, someone may be willing to volunteer his/her time to help you take off the wheel and take it to a recommended shop.
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My car came with cracked rocker panels brand new! Actually, the flap near the spot where the pick goes has a crack in it, so it is no big deal at all.

My opinion is that all rocker panels will eventually get cracked...just depends on whether it is visible when the car is lowered or not. Having said that, I would still not want to worry about it.

As for tires, go to www.tirerack.com, setup an account, setup your car, and then look at tires that fit your car. Read the reviews on them. Also, lots of tire reviews here in these forums as well.
i dont wanna think about it
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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So you don't have a torque wrench, air pump, or jacking pucks.

Is it safe to assume you don't have the small tool to tighten the inside of your valve stem, or a wrench to see if your valve stem is loose. when you can't find a nail or the reason for the leak, you can check valve stem.

Also, get out the dish soap and water to put on the tire and look for bubbles.

If you are really concerned about how the shop will treat the car, you should use this as an opportunity to go to Sears and fill the cart up with some Craftsmen goodies. Pull the wheel, take it in, and you will be prepared for the next time.

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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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Definitely watch what they are doing. I had a screw in my left front tire. I took it to a local tire shop. They were about to use a regular car jack with no puck. I immediately stopped them. I went home used my jack with a plain puck I got at Dick's Sporting Goods. I removed the tire and wheel, and brought it back to them. They repaired the tire correctly, by removing the tire, putting a plug in the hole, and patching the inside of the tire. 4 pucks are cheap. 100lbs is the correct torque setting for lug nuts, so let the tire place do this if you don't have a torque wrench. Just bring the pucks with you so they can do the job. Take a plastic bag for the pucks, and leave the pucks in the storage compartment in the rear of the car, so you'll always be prepared.
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wow, I never use jacking pucks and have never cracked a rocker, you just need to know where to jack (oh like the frame tie down points everyone uses pucks in...)

heck 3 of my own vettes in 6 years and I've worked on at least 20 others (its amazing how many new friends you get when you have a lift)

find a shop you can trust or get your own tools. Honestly I usually yank wheels myself and bring them in the back of my suburban to the tire place.

you new to the area you live in? or have you been there a while? I'd think you have a relationship with one local shop or another, or do you bring the car to the dealer hacks regularly?
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