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Indiana radar question
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From: Madison MS
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ask to see clocked speed?
is there anything in the law about asking to see the clocked speed?
i've seen laser being shot at several cars,but other cop/trooper cars actually
pull the violaters over. with so many cars at one time being pulled over by secondary cars,how could the laser speed on each be verified by the drivers? if the laser cop/trooper bumps or drops the laser the calibration could be incorrect.
i've seen laser being shot at several cars,but other cop/trooper cars actually
pull the violaters over. with so many cars at one time being pulled over by secondary cars,how could the laser speed on each be verified by the drivers? if the laser cop/trooper bumps or drops the laser the calibration could be incorrect.
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The radar detector sites suggest that the laser reflects best off the license plates (Here in WA the plates have a retro-reflective coating that is perfect for this), and off the headlamp reflectors, so officers try to aim at those. It seems the bodypaint is a less reliable reflector (which makes sense).
Speculating:
Many corvettes have no front plate, and the headlamp reflectors are tiny, so if the above is true, then you might have to be, say, 30% closer than the average car before the laser can get a reading. In this case, I'm thinking a good laser detector could save you by going off if the officer tries to scan you at a range that works for regular vehicles, fails, and has to wait a few seconds until you're closer before the device will fix on a reading.
What's the scoop on laser jammers?
Speculating:
Many corvettes have no front plate, and the headlamp reflectors are tiny, so if the above is true, then you might have to be, say, 30% closer than the average car before the laser can get a reading. In this case, I'm thinking a good laser detector could save you by going off if the officer tries to scan you at a range that works for regular vehicles, fails, and has to wait a few seconds until you're closer before the device will fix on a reading.
What's the scoop on laser jammers?
Burning Brakes
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From: Santa Clarita California
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From: Shelbyville Indiana
The laser is quick. I got one on I69 by Fort Wayne and all my detector gave was one quick beep and I was done. Stay out of the left lane as much as possible. If you pass go out then get back as soon as safe. They see you in the left lane it's a dead give away that you're speeding.
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From: Maryland
Most likely this Trooper was using VASCAR. Our agency has not utilized aircraft for speed enforcement for several years now becuase of the fuel costs.
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From: Maryland
Are you serious; This is a Trooper, not Sheriff Coltrane and the Dukes of Hazzard. There is no need to guess, each of us have a radar unit and lidar units issued. It is like shooting fish in a bucket. Heck it is so easy that I do not even stop cars until there 20 over and I can average 5-7 stops an hour.
I may be sticking my head out hear for a fellow Trooper, becuase where I come from we are more worried about our reputation then making up a speed violation.
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From: Maryland
is there anything in the law about asking to see the clocked speed?
i've seen laser being shot at several cars,but other cop/trooper cars actually
pull the violaters over. with so many cars at one time being pulled over by secondary cars,how could the laser speed on each be verified by the drivers? if the laser cop/trooper bumps or drops the laser the calibration could be incorrect.
i've seen laser being shot at several cars,but other cop/trooper cars actually
pull the violaters over. with so many cars at one time being pulled over by secondary cars,how could the laser speed on each be verified by the drivers? if the laser cop/trooper bumps or drops the laser the calibration could be incorrect.
Not in Maryland or Delaware. Our units do not have printouts as they are not required by department policy or state law.
The calibration is done before and after the tour of duty on a pre-set course usually at the barrack or department. You would be suprised how tuff these units are. They routinley get dropped or fall off the car. They were made tough I guess becuase we are normally rough on equipment.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Dacula GA
C6 corvettes are still good lidar reflectors, ecpect black ones. I have been clocked at over 4000' with a Pro Laser III in my C6 (Victory Red).
No detector will save you from laser, I run a Escort 9500ci and a V1 in my C6. When it goes off you have already been clocked. I have 3 police laser guns, they will all clock you in 1/2 second or less at distances up to 5000' though most laser encounters occur at distances under 1500'.
If you want protection from laser the only defense is laser jammers. They are very effective, legal in most states and the LEO will never know you have them if you use them properly.
When targeted, slow to PSL or close to it, kill the jammer and let him aquire your speed.
If you want advice on choosing a jammer, feel free to PM me and i will point you in the right direction based on your budget.
No detector will save you from laser, I run a Escort 9500ci and a V1 in my C6. When it goes off you have already been clocked. I have 3 police laser guns, they will all clock you in 1/2 second or less at distances up to 5000' though most laser encounters occur at distances under 1500'.
If you want protection from laser the only defense is laser jammers. They are very effective, legal in most states and the LEO will never know you have them if you use them properly.
When targeted, slow to PSL or close to it, kill the jammer and let him aquire your speed.
If you want advice on choosing a jammer, feel free to PM me and i will point you in the right direction based on your budget.
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From: TX
My wife got nicked at the same spot. The trooper probably makes his quota there. She went into the Allen County Diversion Program. You pay the money, but if you do not get another ticket for 1 year, no points go on your record. You can get into the program just for asking if you have a clean license.
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Wounded Warrior Escort '11
I need to build a high-energy laser source that auto-targets the precise location of the sender and issues a pulse back to that source...something producing enough energy to fry the electronics of a lidar gun. Somehow though, I wouldn't want to harm the officer. There's got to be a way.
Burning Brakes
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From: Dacula GA
I've tested every police laser gun on the market and my next Vette most likely will be black just because it is harder to pickup, but not impossible. Combine black with a decent jammer and the lidar gun has no chance though.
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From: Shelbyville Indiana
C6 corvettes are still good lidar reflectors, ecpect black ones. I have been clocked at over 4000' with a Pro Laser III in my C6 (Victory Red).
No detector will save you from laser, I run a Escort 9500ci and a V1 in my C6. When it goes off you have already been clocked. I have 3 police laser guns, they will all clock you in 1/2 second or less at distances up to 5000' though most laser encounters occur at distances under 1500'.
If you want protection from laser the only defense is laser jammers. They are very effective, legal in most states and the LEO will never know you have them if you use them properly.
When targeted, slow to PSL or close to it, kill the jammer and let him aquire your speed.
If you want advice on choosing a jammer, feel free to PM me and i will point you in the right direction based on your budget.
No detector will save you from laser, I run a Escort 9500ci and a V1 in my C6. When it goes off you have already been clocked. I have 3 police laser guns, they will all clock you in 1/2 second or less at distances up to 5000' though most laser encounters occur at distances under 1500'.
If you want protection from laser the only defense is laser jammers. They are very effective, legal in most states and the LEO will never know you have them if you use them properly.
When targeted, slow to PSL or close to it, kill the jammer and let him aquire your speed.
If you want advice on choosing a jammer, feel free to PM me and i will point you in the right direction based on your budget.
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Not in any jurisdiction I'm aware of. The only thing they have to show is the calibration records for their equipment and you won't see them unless you take it to court.
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Last edited by Uncle Meat; Jul 29, 2009 at 05:36 AM.
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From: Huntingtown MD
Are you serious; This is a Trooper, not Sheriff Coltrane and the Dukes of Hazzard. There is no need to guess, each of us have a radar unit and lidar units issued. It is like shooting fish in a bucket. Heck it is so easy that I do not even stop cars until there 20 over and I can average 5-7 stops an hour.
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Man, If I am ever stopped in Maryland I want to be stopped by you. At 9 to 12 minutes per stop not counting in the re-setup time that's some fast service. I use to get so tired of the 45 minute ticket and lecture. 
Are you serious; This is a Trooper, not Sheriff Coltrane and the Dukes of Hazzard. There is no need to guess, each of us have a radar unit and lidar units issued. It is like shooting fish in a bucket. Heck it is so easy that I do not even stop cars until there 20 over and I can average 5-7 stops an hour.
I may be sticking my head out hear for a fellow Trooper, becuase where I come from we are more worried about our reputation then making up a speed violation.
I may be sticking my head out hear for a fellow Trooper, becuase where I come from we are more worried about our reputation then making up a speed violation.
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St. Jude Donor '17
On my trips North I avoid NJ. Last time in the state my friend got a ticket for doing 45 in a 55 in the left hand lane of the NJ turnpike. There's more to the story but let's say it involved a JUG. First time encountering one of those.
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If you leave three bowling ***** overnight in a police station, by the next morning-
One will be missing
One will be broken
One will be pregnant
(I'm retired LE and my attitude on speed was similar to yours, except far fewer stops)
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From: Cincinnati Ohio
From talking to a couple local officers they aim for the flattest surface on the car, which in Ohio is our front license plate. If the don't have a license plate they aim for the front bumper. The only way for the detector to go go off for laser is for the beam to hit the detector directly. There are a few radar detectors out there that have sensors made to go on your front bumper to help with laser but they are $1,000 plus. Unless the officer is aiming at your dash with the laser, or some type of reflection from another car there is no way of the detector going off.