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Indiana radar question
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Indiana radar question
We were on are way to MO 2 weeks ago to pick up a new race trailer.I had my radar detector on the dash of my friends truck. There was a car setting in the middle of 465, driver standing behind his car, I told my buddy to slow down, sure enough it was a state trooper, as we passed him he got back in the car,turned the lights on and pulled us over for 70 in a 55. By the time we passed him we were doing 55. The detector did not go off. Is there a new radar I dont know about. My detector allways goes off. I know it picks up k,ka, x ,laser and pop. I was reading on someother posts about speed photo or photo radar. So how did he get are speed.
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If he was standing by the car then he was using laser. It cannot be shot through glass so he would either be shooting through an open window, or have to stand outside the car. Many officers don't like using the laser for this reason. No one wants to stand outside in the sun when its 100 degrees. He could have easily hit your car without hitting your detector because the beam of the laser is very tight. The detector would have been of no use anyway as you would have been notified at the same time that he got a reading on you. Sorry to hear you got hit, but this is a good lesson on the use of the laser.
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What detector are you using? It really doesn't matter if they were using laser. Even the best detectors are no match for laser. The only hope is that the cop goes for a car in front of you enough that your radar goes off and gives you time to slop down.
** correction ** I read that laser can't pick up cars with a matte finish.
** correction ** I read that laser can't pick up cars with a matte finish.
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For Hoosier Vette: So you saw smokey standing there beside his police car but you didn't see him pointing a large handgun-like device at you?
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We were on are way to MO 2 weeks ago to pick up a new race trailer.I had my radar detector on the dash of my friends truck. There was a car setting in the middle of 465, driver standing behind his car, I told my buddy to slow down, sure enough it was a state trooper, as we passed him he got back in the car,turned the lights on and pulled us over for 70 in a 55. By the time we passed him we were doing 55. The detector did not go off. Is there a new radar I dont know about. My detector allways goes off. I know it picks up k,ka, x ,laser and pop. I was reading on someother posts about speed photo or photo radar. So how did he get are speed.
Might have been LIDAR (esp, since the LEO was standing outside, or stretching his legs?)...or maybe even VASCAR.
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If he was standing by the car then he was using laser. It cannot be shot through glass so he would either be shooting through an open window, or have to stand outside the car. Many officers don't like using the laser for this reason. No one wants to stand outside in the sun when its 100 degrees. He could have easily hit your car without hitting your detector because the beam of the laser is very tight. The detector would have been of no use anyway as you would have been notified at the same time that he got a reading on you. Sorry to hear you got hit, but this is a good lesson on the use of the laser.
What detector are you using? It really doesn't matter if they were using laser. Even the best detectors are no match for laser. The only hope is that the cop goes for a car in front of you enough that your radar goes off and gives you time to slop down.
** correction ** I read that laser can't pick up cars with a matte finish.
** correction ** I read that laser can't pick up cars with a matte finish.
This is simply not true..
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It might have worked better if it was mounted higher up instead of on the dash. Being on the dash blocks much of a detectors field of view.
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It was about 8:00 A.M. sunday. No one else nearby. Unmarked car, about 3/4 mile from us when we seen him. We started slowing down when we seen the car, it looked funny in the middle. It did not say how he clocked us on the ticket. A car passed us a few miles before we got there, I dont know how he did not get him. Funny thing is, usually you have to do 70 to keep from being ran over.
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Just to clarify something, they don't necessarily have to be standing outside the cop car to zap you with a laser. I got nailed last year up in Ennis, Texas by a local boy with a laser, and he was sitting in his car, on an overpass. Got me doing 83 in a 65. And oh yes, my Escort did go off, but it was of course too late.
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Nothing can beat the human eye or a stop watch. Another good way is to pass an unmarked police car. Box Elder county in Utah has a LEO that drives an unmarked old pick up. Doesn't matter if he can't catch up to you either.
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Sorry just had to pull your leg walt
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If he was standing by the car then he was using laser. It cannot be shot through glass so he would either be shooting through an open window, or have to stand outside the car. Many officers don't like using the laser for this reason. No one wants to stand outside in the sun when its 100 degrees. He could have easily hit your car without hitting your detector because the beam of the laser is very tight. The detector would have been of no use anyway as you would have been notified at the same time that he got a reading on you. Sorry to hear you got hit, but this is a good lesson on the use of the laser.
Lidar (laser) is particularly difficult to detect because of the tight beam mentioned above. Radar beams are pretty huge in diameter at 1/4 mile & they reflect beautifully, so they're much easier to detect.As also mentioned elsewhere, you're pretty much dead meat if you're alone on the road and you're targeted by Lidar.
If, however, you've got other vehicles ahead, you sometimes can get a warning from a beam that either goes through the glass of one of those leading vehicles or reflects off of it.
Right now the most effective Lidar detector on the market is the Valentine One. It's the most likely to give you a warning under the conditions where vehicles are in front of you.....but don't bet your license on it!
Here's a further word of warning about radar detectability! Arizona has deployed mobile photo radar units that transmit on K band. Their transmissions are so weak that even a Valentine One picks them up too late!
We freedom loving members of the driving community are losing the technology wars. That sucks!
