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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AirBusPilot
Lots of very fragile egos here so you'll see alot of "mines bigger/better than yours" crap with basically the same car (base thru ZR1). Anyway to differentiate themselves, including adding aftermarket badges to advertise suspension tuning.
Hey I resemble that remark...correction...its 436 HP with the NPP exhaust....

Old Jul 11, 2009 | 02:12 PM
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No, but I don't care for a supercharged approach to more hp. I also don't like the window in the hood etc. Besides for that price tag I would buy a nice used 360 Modena. Yeah the vette is faster, but the Ferrari is pure art.
Um . . . right. I guess I don't like all those scoops and stuff etc on the Z06 . . .
Old Jul 11, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Um . . . right. I guess I don't like all those scoops and stuff etc on the Z06 . . .
I have often read posts about the appearance of the ZR1 & Gran Sport and agreed with some but I have never heard anything but praise for the appearance of the C6 ZO6. Just a totally BAD looking car.

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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Um . . . right. I guess I don't like all those scoops and stuff etc on the Z06 . . .
Sounds like you got some envy going!
Old Jul 11, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mpuzach
You 2008 and 2009 guys have your LS3s but my lowly LS2 came with an orange interior ambient light, locking console lid, underhood light, and rear hatch pulldown bracket!


Personally for me, I just like the LS3 because it's a great engine. Not because it's newer or makes more HP (although that's always a plus). My friend has a C5, and I love that Vette too. I just love Vettes and don't care what C-version it is. Yes, earlier C's don't have the same HP, but for their time period they still had plenty of snot, back then and today (save the early ones before the small-block arrived).

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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MLCZ51
my Z51 LS2 with vararam and headers with tune EATS ls3's...cost me about 2k for the mods.
sure it does
Old Jul 11, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MLCZ51
my Z51 LS2 with vararam and headers with tune EATS ls3's...cost me about 2k for the mods.
and if an LS3 has the same mods???
Old Jul 11, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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I have an ls3 and I don't feel superior. Any car can lose if the driver stinks. Not too mention it's just a car. If you want more power add it. If not then don't, it's your canvas to paint.
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Originally Posted by mpuzach
You 2008 and 2009 guys have your LS3s but my lowly LS2 came with an orange interior ambient light, locking console lid, underhood light, and rear hatch pulldown bracket!
Oh crap... I knew I had LS3 envy, now I find out I have early LS2 envy. My lowly '07 LS2 only has the orange light. No locking console, no underhood light (I did add one though), and no rear hatch pulldown.
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I have the answer to your problem- One of each
The CG Z is smokin!
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No ragtop?
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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Default There were lots of changes for 2008.

The LS3 is great and all, but the change that really stood out to me first was the center console. That silver just looks really cheap to me. Had there been a new Camaro available when my old Camaro needed replacing, I would have bought that instead. Reading about ALL the stuff about the NEW 2008 Vette sold me on it.

The big news for 2008 was under the hood: Engine displacement was increased to 6.2 liters (376 cubic inches) via a bore increase. Output was upped to 430 hp (424 lb.-ft. torque) and a new engine designation - LS3 - announced the good news. Credit for the increase went to revised a camshaft / valvetrain, a high flow intake and the use of the Z06's fuel injectors. A new for '08 dual mode exhaust (RPO NPP; $1195) which bypasses the muffler for a very aggressive sound. A similar system has been used on the Z06; the difference being that the Z06 used 3 inch pipes and the LS3 uses 2.5 inch pipes.
The manual transmission shifter, which already worked amazingly well, was refined via shorter shifts. Upgrades in the automatic transmission resulted in quicker shifting. Two colors, Jetstream Blue Metallic Tintcoat and Crystal Red Metallic Tintcoat were added and the Le Mans Blue Metallic and Monterey Red Metallic Tintcoat were discontinued.

There were no changes to the Z06 for 2008.


Changes from 2007 C6 to 2008 C6

Deletions **************************************** ********************************
(19U) LeMans Blue Metallic exterior color
(80U) Monterey Red Metallic Tintcoat exterior color
(LS2) 6.0L V8 SFI engine
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(85U) Jetstream Blue Metallic Tintcoat exterior color
(89U) Crystal Red Metallic Tintcoat exterior color (Coupe and Convertible only)
(QG6) 5-split spoke silver painted aluminum wheels (Coupe and Convertible only)
(QX1) 5-split spoke Competition Gray-painted aluminum wheels (Coupe and Convertible only) (QG7) 5-spoke forged polished aluminum wheels (Coupe and Convertible only)
4LT Coupe equipment group with Custom Leather Wrapped Interior Package available in (245) Sienna or (425) Linen interior trim (Not available at start of production)
4LT Convertible equipment group with Custom Leather Wrapped Interior Package available in (245) Sienna or (425) Linen interior trim (Not available at start of production)
3LZ Z06 equipment group with Custom Leather Wrapped Interior Package available in (245) Sienna or (425) Linen interior trim (Not available at start of production)
(LS3) 6.2L V8 SFI engine with 430 HP and 424 lb-ft of torque (Coupe and Convertible only) (GU2) 2.73 rear axle ratio, performance, limited-slip (Coupe and Convertible only with [MX0] automatic transmission; Included with Z51)
(NPP) Dual-mode performance exhaust, increases horsepower (+6 HP) (Coupe and Convertible only) Changes **************************************** **********************************
(U2K) XM Satellite Radio is now standard on all models
(UE1) OnStar is now standard on all models
(DD8) Auto-dimming inside rearview mirror with compass is now standard on all models
(DD0) Auto-dimming, power, heated, body-color outside mirror is now standard on all models
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Improved manual shift efforts on (MN6) 6-speed manual transmission
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Bright trim around shifter and cupholders
New sill plates with metal finish
New keyless access fob with integrated key
(83U) Atomic Orange exterior color changed from Metallic Tintcoat to Premium Metallic
New lighted switch on (F55) Magnetic Selective Ride Control
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Some people are just nuts. There is NO exclusivity to owning any flavor of the Corvette lineup. Not even the awesome ZR1. Even if I had the money, I would not get the ZR1 as $60,000+ in mods goes a long way, plus I can get EXACTLY what I want. It's not about making any kind of statement to anybody else. It's about enjoying what you have because that's what YOU like. If you define yourself by what others think of you, well then so be it.
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I think I have a bigger **** then all of you also....Just saying,,,
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+1 that is the best thing about the c6 IMO. Huge mod ability

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I had a choice to purchase an late 07 or early 08. Was not a tough decision. Went LS3.
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Unless you're 'the one' there's always somebody faster or who has more horsepower. Sure, the 30+ extra horsepower is what it is and makes for a slight performance advantage but frankly, the difference isn't all that much. Other than just enjoying the added hp for bragging rights, what are you realistically going to do with your whopping 30+ horsepower? Do you track your car?

That aside I'm quite positive about modding a car. If your factory or extended warranty (if any) isn't a consideration and you want to do it...go for it! Use a quality shop and components...enjoy your car!

Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
Trade up. Anything less than trading up is just a bandaid.

Long tube headers, and it gets louder, hotter inside, and it may not pass emissions.

Cold air intakes, be they front breathers or back breathers are still bottom breathers, and make you more susceptable to hydrolock.

Tunes...well you don't know what you're getting.

Get more radical than that, like going into your engine to do cams and such, and you do so at a bit more risk.

Just about any mod for power you do is liable to cost you at least a little, in drivability and/or dependability.

And finally, any "simple bolt on" mod that you can do on an LS2, can be done by an owner of an LS3 and it will respond just as good, if not better. ....So at the end of the day, you will still wind up right where you started if you are comparing "like to like".

Trade up. Anything less than trading up is a bandaid.
I don't necessarily agree with your "bandaid" theory. Sure, there are advantages in trading-up to a more powerful model Corvette but there's a lot to be said for modifying what you have as well. You brought-up some excellent points and I believe there are pros and cons no matter which way you go. Many factors affect one's decision whether to modify or trade-up (warranty, cost, useage, level of modifications, etc.).

If you trade-up instead of modifying, the best you can ever hope for is still only a stock car. When you modify you're not constrained to a stock configuration...the sky is the limit with respect to the performance that can be achieved. A 'properly' modified car can far exceed its stock counterpart (or even the stock model you might trade-up for). That's hardly a "bandaid" in my opinion.

In the OP's case I'm not sure what he's looking for other than bragging rights but instead of taking a huge financial hit trading-in his car (for 30+ horsepower) he might be better off doing some light modifications to achieve his limited goals.

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I don't necessarily agree with your "bandaid" theory. Sure, there are advantages in trading-up to a more powerful model Corvette but there's a lot to be said for modifying what you have as well. You brought-up some excellent points and I believe there are pros and cons no matter which way you go. Many factors affect one's decision whether to modify or trade-up (warranty, cost, useage, level of modifications, etc.).

If you trade-up instead of modifying, the best you can ever hope for is still only a stock car. When you modify you're not constrained to a stock configuration...the sky is the limit with respect to the performance that can be achieved. A 'properly' modified car can far exceed its stock counterpart (or even the stock model you might trade-up for). That's hardly a "bandaid" in my opinion.

In the OP's case I'm not sure what he's looking for other than bragging rights but instead of taking a huge financial hit trading-in his car (for 30+ horsepower) he might be better off doing some light modifications to achieve his limited goals.
I would only point out with response to the above, that if one is talking about modding, the question as to which platform is the better one to mod from depending upon goals, will come up as well.

Be it LS2 or LS3.

"the best you can ever hope for is still only a stock car."

Don't know if I agree with that. Some are going to mod whatever they get. But the starting points will be different.

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