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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 12:55 AM
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On page 39 of the December issue of Motor Trend is an interesting article about the "Coanda effect" and how its application to autos might decrease drag and, therefore, increase fuel economy. Reading in between the lines also suggests that it may very well be the solution to our dirty butt problem! It'll be interesting to see if this technology makes it's way to the Corvette. If so, we'll probably end up with rounder and cleaner butts and about 3mpg better on the highway!
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We have good looking butts as is. Id like to leave them as is.
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Originally Posted by C-INRED
On page 39 of the December issue of Motor Trend is an interesting article about the "Coanda effect" and how its application to autos might decrease drag and, therefore, increase fuel economy. Reading in between the lines also suggests that it may very well be the solution to our dirty butt problem! It'll be interesting to see if this technology makes it's way to the Corvette. If so, we'll probably end up with rounder and cleaner butts and about 3mpg better on the highway!
I thought the same exact thing.

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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 02:50 AM
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We have good looking butts as is. Id like to leave them as is.
Man, I love your avatar. Your car looks sick
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coand%C4%83_effect
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Cool idea. I just read that article too but didn't put two and two together.
I hate the dirty but.
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Remember early streamlined design for land speed record cars had long tear drop rear ends. It wasn't very practical for race cars so the Coanda rear end concept was applied on LeMans type race cars, with the squared off rear end.

It was almost as efficient as the long tail cone, considering the extra weight and skin friction drag was less without the cone.


I haven't read the article, but I'm sure it would not be practical to add a 6 foot tail cone to the Vette. I'll stick with the current design.
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Living down a dusty, dirt road I'm well acquainted with the "dirty butt" phenomenon. As to the solution, I'll stick with using a California Duster and just washing the car.
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Someone mention butts? Me likey big butts!
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Originally Posted by LarryMJones
Remember early streamlined design for land speed record cars had long tear drop rear ends. It wasn't very practical for race cars so the Coanda rear end concept was applied on LeMans type race cars, with the squared off rear end.

It was almost as efficient as the long tail cone, considering the extra weight and skin friction drag was less without the cone.


I haven't read the article, but I'm sure it would not be practical to add a 6 foot tail cone to the Vette. I'll stick with the current design.
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It's not just the shape, but also the introduction of a tiny bit of compressed air. This effectively pushes on the rear of the vehicle.

I don't think the more rounded shape would be nearly as pronounced as the 'long tail cones' you refer to.
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Or they could just do what Mythbusters did on a recent episode. Cover teh car with dimples like a golf ball where they actually achieved better mileage using the same principles of why dimples allows a golf ball to soar further with less drag.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/22/m...-dimpling-mpg/
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Originally Posted by Wayne O
Living down a dusty, dirt road I'm well acquainted with the "dirty butt" phenomenon. As to the solution, I'll stick with using a California Duster and just washing the car.
What has been your experience with the CA duster causing little surface scratches? I am hesitant to use one on the metallic paint. maybe I am just being overcautious cause it's my new vette, but....?
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Put your twin K&N Air filters BEHIND the tail lights and you'll see what a dirity butt looks like! Stupid remote mount twin turbo!!!


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If they do that it means I would stop seeing small bugs smashed against the rear fascia.

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I haven't read this article about the anaconda tail, but I thought the design of the Corvette tail originated from way back, like the "Kamm tail," which I think started appearing in European cars back in the 60s.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kammback
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Originally Posted by AORoads
I haven't read this article about the anaconda tail, but I thought the design of the Corvette tail originated from way back, like the "Kamm tail," which I think started appearing in European cars back in the 60s.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kammback
Kahm was the name I was trying to remember. It was a spin off of the Konda effect. I think you are 100% correct.
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Originally Posted by Raazor
Put your twin K&N Air filters BEHIND the tail lights and you'll see what a dirity butt looks like! Stupid remote mount twin turbo!!!


Interesting, I never would have thought that having the inlet up inside the bumper would make much of a difference.

I guess it's a fair trade
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Originally Posted by ///DarkSide\\\
Interesting, I never would have thought that having the inlet up inside the bumper would make much of a difference.

I guess it's a fair trade
Lucky for me, it's yellow.

Seriously though, it sucks dust to the tail lights like a $3 hooker.
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Does it help city mpg
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Originally Posted by Raazor
Seriously though, it sucks dust to the tail lights like a $3 hooker.
Too d@mn funny Raazor. Man, I just have to take a road trip to Big Sky country. I am thinking we could do some serious beer drinking, bench racing and tell lies. And then I'd have to drive back to Northern California by way of......Texas?
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