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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 12:34 AM
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This is just disheartening

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/23/v...rash-at-sebri/
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 12:38 AM
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Hopefully that's not an indication of how the season will be. Too bad.
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that was beyond stupid!
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Originally Posted by bosco 08
that was beyond stupid!
Seems pretty basic that you would tell the incoming driver that the #3 car was exiting the pits....
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HummelS
Seems pretty basic that you would tell the incoming driver that the #3 car was exiting the pits....
+1

maybe the other driver was "texting" as he pulled in.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:19 AM
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Oh geez........
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Originally Posted by HummelS
Seems pretty basic that you would tell the incoming driver that the #3 car was exiting the pits....
Actually how it should work is that the car in the pit in that situation should be held until the 2nd car is in his pitbox. Whose ever job it was to tell the first car in to go was at fault. Fault in that incident was NOT with either driver.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:20 AM
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I was watching the race when that happened. Said they were having "radio issues". Truth or not, who knows.

That is a big risk you run when trying to pit team cars on the same lap - or within a lap or two of each other. It is great when it works as it keeps the team cars close together on the track, but this kind of accident is the risk you take.
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Originally Posted by Swiftrider08
I was watching the race when that happened. Said they were having "radio issues". Truth or not, who knows.

That is a big risk you run when trying to pit team cars on the same lap - or within a lap or two of each other. It is great when it works as it keeps the team cars close together on the track, but this kind of accident is the risk you take.
It really doesn't matter when they pit, together or not. If they were close together on the track before they pit they will be close together after they pit even if they pit 5 laps apart.

They really should not bring both cars in together, especially in a 12 hour race but if they MUST the car pitting furthest down pit road should be the first in.

THEN if you're having radio problems, there should be an immediate Plan "B" to that. Back up would be the man typically that changes the drivers side front tire (at Sebring anyway) will hold the driver and then be the one to tell him to go. Driver does NOT leave until he is told....

What we saw should never happen and is not the fault of the driver UNLESS of course, the #3 car went without being told to do so.

As much as it appeared to be the #4 cars fault, it was NOT.
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Originally Posted by Glennm27
Actually how it should work is that the car in the pit in that situation should be held until the 2nd car is in his pitbox. Whose ever job it was to tell the first car in to go was at fault. Fault in that incident was NOT with either driver.
That would be the big guy checking the passenger tires. The driver's side changers raise their hands indicating done. The guy on the right checks front and back tires and waves #3 out without ever looking up. It might work in practice to wave a driver out quickly as soon as everyone is finished but in a real race there could be someone else driving on pit lane.

You are correct that neither driver was at fault. I see only one person responsible. It could have been any car driving down pit lane and the result could have been similar. The driver is watching for the go signal and has to assume the guy giving it can see better and has not only checked the tires but also checked for immediate traffic. 1/10 of a second to get his eyes up off the ground and there would have been no accident with or without a radio.
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Whoever is responsible for this tragic mistake, should no longer be part of CORVETTE RACING
If there is any truth to the radio problems, then I may be more forgiving.....but I don't believe that excuse.....somebody screwed up....big time.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JERGENSEN LS3
Whoever is responsible for this tragic mistake, should no longer be part of CORVETTE RACING
If there is any truth to the radio problems, then I may be more forgiving.....but I don't believe that excuse.....somebody screwed up....big time.
tragic? should no longer be a part? a bit much. nobody killed and it's probably the same guy that's been there all along and helped collect all the trophies. crap happens sometimes. i'm sure it's already been addressed.
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Originally Posted by JERGENSEN LS3
Whoever is responsible for this tragic mistake, should no longer be part of CORVETTE RACING
Wow. Good luck to your kids.

You do realize that *all* humans make mistakes, right? The *only* way that systems improve is by examining failures.

Geez.

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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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I didn't see much of the race, but happened to see that one. Couldn't believe it when seeing it, as it looked like in slow motion. It was more than radio problem's, as someone must have had their eye's closed. Very embarassing.
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D'oh!
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This needless accident should not have happened but incidents like this happen to the best of them. I recall a Formula 1 car being released from the pit stop into an oncoming car once. I'd wager Corvette Racing doesn't make this mistake again. Let's hope the next race goes better for Corvette.
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Originally Posted by Glennm27
Actually how it should work is that the car in the pit in that situation should be held until the 2nd car is in his pitbox. Whose ever job it was to tell the first car in to go was at fault. Fault in that incident was NOT with either driver.
Regardless of what the pit guy tells you, you should still be able to see your teammates car and not ram into it.
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Originally Posted by Swiftrider08
I was watching the race when that happened. Said they were having "radio issues". Truth or not, who knows.

That is a big risk you run when trying to pit team cars on the same lap - or within a lap or two of each other. It is great when it works as it keeps the team cars close together on the track, but this kind of accident is the risk you take.
Actually, they weren't supposed to be in the pits at the same time. The #4 wasn't scheduled to come in until the next lap, but they got a low fuel warning and were told to come in a lap early.

Still, I agree, someone on the pit crew should have been aware the #4 was coming in and held the #3 until the #4 was in the pit box. It's not like a few seconds were going to hurt them much since the #3 was already 8 laps down due to a power steering hose replacement earlier in the race (so at the time, they weren't even running together ).

Full story is up on the corvetteracing.com website. This crash wasn't the only bad luck they had on Saturday. Hopefully they got all the bad luck for the season out of the way in the first race.

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Originally Posted by gbgary
tragic? should no longer be a part? a bit much. nobody killed and it's probably the same guy that's been there all along and helped collect all the trophies. crap happens sometimes. i'm sure it's already been addressed.
I agree and it's all behind them now and they have moved forward... I doubt anyone got fired, but someone sure got embarrassed... :o
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Originally Posted by Zoxxo
Wow. Good luck to your kids.

You do realize that *all* humans make mistakes, right? The *only* way that systems improve is by examining failures.

Geez.

Z//
Typical response from a Californian....
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