2005 C6 Vette...why do they have a bad rep?
#21
Le Mans Master
The 2005 was the FIRST MODEL YEAR of the new C6. There were numerous issues, including but not limited to:
*Crank Pulley falling off
*Rear axle was weak - GM redesigned for later years
*A4 trans - Basically a 700R4 or a 4L65E - not as strong as a 6L80E -( 4L65E = 380ft.lb torque MAX / 6L80E = 440ft.lb torque MAX)
* Roof separation issues
* Electrical issues
plus other issues....
Once again, it was the FIRST MODEL YEAR for a new design = problems & bugs
*Crank Pulley falling off
*Rear axle was weak - GM redesigned for later years
*A4 trans - Basically a 700R4 or a 4L65E - not as strong as a 6L80E -( 4L65E = 380ft.lb torque MAX / 6L80E = 440ft.lb torque MAX)
* Roof separation issues
* Electrical issues
plus other issues....
Once again, it was the FIRST MODEL YEAR for a new design = problems & bugs
The 4 speed auto is well thought of especially compared to the 4 speed auto in the C5's. I've never heard that the A4 was "weaker" than the A6.
Crank pulley was a simple fix and the vast majority of 05 owners have never had any issue with the rear differential being weak.
There have been issues with every year of Corvette and any used Vette you look at should be researched including a service history printout (need the VIN) from a good GM dealership.
#22
Melting Slicks
The A6 or the 6L80E is rated at 440 Lb.Ft. of torque. Quite the difference. And that rating is for a 8,000 pound truck/vehicle.
My A4 grenanded on me and my car had to be towed to the dealer. I was just driving down the highway and some internal shaft/spline just snapped. The car only had 8k miles on it.
If you put an LS3 motor in front of the A4, the A4 would die very quickly.
#23
Racer
Once again, it was the FIRST MODEL YEAR for a new design = problems & bugs
Not to hurt anyone's feelings but the 2005 4-speed automatic is a big letdown compared to the 2006 and later 6 speed automatics. And IMO the steering wheel is butt-ugly.
#26
Team Owner
Our early `05 (sept 2004) has been problem free to 28k miles . . 1 set of tires, 1 set of brakes, recall on the roof and active handling sensors.
`05's are a good value by comparison - - but each year C6 thereafter gets better and better . . .conventional wisdom suggests you should do your homework on a specific car, but buy as new as you can afford.
And here's a link to yesterday's discussion on the same topic:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...of-2005-a.html
Good luck-
`05's are a good value by comparison - - but each year C6 thereafter gets better and better . . .conventional wisdom suggests you should do your homework on a specific car, but buy as new as you can afford.
And here's a link to yesterday's discussion on the same topic:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...of-2005-a.html
Good luck-
#27
My .02 cents
If you haven't already, please consider test driving a used 2008 LS3 NPP and/or a used 2006/2007 Z06.
I think you will find them to be more fun - nothing against the 2005 to be PC.
Wait, until a great deal comes along, and you will be much happier.
I think you will find them to be more fun - nothing against the 2005 to be PC.
Wait, until a great deal comes along, and you will be much happier.
#29
Le Mans Master
Not a bad rap, just first year of C6. Gives them few more problems initially. Most have all the bugs worked out of them by now.
I love mine, no issues, and won't be getting rid of it till i have to
I love mine, no issues, and won't be getting rid of it till i have to
#30
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A popular listing but remember that electrical issues, roof separation issues, and other problems have cropped up just as much if not more in subsequent years. Especially the dreaded DBS.
The 4 speed auto is well thought of especially compared to the 4 speed auto in the C5's. I've never heard that the A4 was "weaker" than the A6.
Crank pulley was a simple fix and the vast majority of 05 owners have never had any issue with the rear differential being weak.
There have been issues with every year of Corvette and any used Vette you look at should be researched including a service history printout (need the VIN) from a good GM dealership.
The 4 speed auto is well thought of especially compared to the 4 speed auto in the C5's. I've never heard that the A4 was "weaker" than the A6.
Crank pulley was a simple fix and the vast majority of 05 owners have never had any issue with the rear differential being weak.
There have been issues with every year of Corvette and any used Vette you look at should be researched including a service history printout (need the VIN) from a good GM dealership.
Just from reading the forum it's evident problems can and do happen with any model year car. My (modified) 2005 is run hard and has been ridiculously reliable and trouble free. It's been a great car in all respects.
#31
Team Owner
I had heard that, contrary to popular belief, it was usually the second year which has most of the problems. Why? Due to the first year getting additional attention from the manufacturer (because it is a new model) and because the problems that tend to crop up early in a new model stick around for a few years.
2005 - http://www.jdpower.com/autos/Chevrol...rtible/ratings
2006 - http://www.jdpower.com/autos/Chevrol...rtible/ratings
2007 - http://www.jdpower.com/autos/Chevrol...rtible/ratings
Looks like the numbers bear this out. 2005 scored 4, 3.5, 4, and 4.5 on long-term dependability, while 2006 scored 3, 3, 2, 4. 2007 was 4, 3.5, 3.5, 5
2005 - http://www.jdpower.com/autos/Chevrol...rtible/ratings
2006 - http://www.jdpower.com/autos/Chevrol...rtible/ratings
2007 - http://www.jdpower.com/autos/Chevrol...rtible/ratings
Looks like the numbers bear this out. 2005 scored 4, 3.5, 4, and 4.5 on long-term dependability, while 2006 scored 3, 3, 2, 4. 2007 was 4, 3.5, 3.5, 5
At least here on the forum where we have hundreds of owners discussing their cars at any time.
Biggest is of course that the '06's didn't have a column lock and DBS. And this issue hit many, up to 1/3 of MN6's, and with many cars more than just a few times. Not even to mention all the numbers of dead batteries of ignorance, from not leaving the tranny parked in reverse. Especially common due to a non-owner driver or technician.
Second was/is the harmonic balancer coming loose. In 2% or more of '05's up to VIN 111039.
But a few other more minor problems were just in '05's:
A/C factory freon overfill.
Squealing brake pads were much more common.
Mal-aligned doors causing rear quarter panel damage and shifter rattling in cold temps I believe are a few others.
Last edited by Hoonose; 07-01-2010 at 11:37 PM.
#32
Team Owner
A popular listing but remember that electrical issues, roof separation issues, and other problems have cropped up just as much if not more in subsequent years. Especially the dreaded DBS.
The 4 speed auto is well thought of especially compared to the 4 speed auto in the C5's. I've never heard that the A4 was "weaker" than the A6.
Crank pulley was a simple fix and the vast majority of 05 owners have never had any issue with the rear differential being weak.
There have been issues with every year of Corvette and B]any[/B] used Vette you look at should be researched including a service history printout (need the VIN) from a good GM dealership.
The 4 speed auto is well thought of especially compared to the 4 speed auto in the C5's. I've never heard that the A4 was "weaker" than the A6.
Crank pulley was a simple fix and the vast majority of 05 owners have never had any issue with the rear differential being weak.
There have been issues with every year of Corvette and B]any[/B] used Vette you look at should be researched including a service history printout (need the VIN) from a good GM dealership.
The crank pulley is a simple fix? The TSB is a mile long and it costs over $800 to redo properly!
#34
Team Owner
The 2005 was the FIRST MODEL YEAR of the new C6. There were numerous issues, including but not limited to:
*Crank Pulley falling off
*Rear axle was weak - GM redesigned for later years
*A4 trans - Basically a 700R4 or a 4L65E - not as strong as a 6L80E -( 4L65E = 380ft.lb torque MAX / 6L80E = 440ft.lb torque MAX)
* Roof separation issues
* Electrical issues
plus other issues....
Once again, it was the FIRST MODEL YEAR for a new design = problems & bugs
*Crank Pulley falling off
*Rear axle was weak - GM redesigned for later years
*A4 trans - Basically a 700R4 or a 4L65E - not as strong as a 6L80E -( 4L65E = 380ft.lb torque MAX / 6L80E = 440ft.lb torque MAX)
* Roof separation issues
* Electrical issues
plus other issues....
Once again, it was the FIRST MODEL YEAR for a new design = problems & bugs
#35
Team Owner
The 4 speed Auto in 2005's is basically the anemic 700R4. It was slightly modified but GM had it its peak power input listed at 380 Lb.Ft. of torque.
The A6 or the 6L80E is rated at 440 Lb.Ft. of torque. Quite the difference. And that rating is for a 8,000 pound truck/vehicle.
My A4 grenanded on me and my car had to be towed to the dealer. I was just driving down the highway and some internal shaft/spline just snapped. The car only had 8k miles on it.
If you put an LS3 motor in front of the A4, the A4 would die very quickly.
The A6 or the 6L80E is rated at 440 Lb.Ft. of torque. Quite the difference. And that rating is for a 8,000 pound truck/vehicle.
My A4 grenanded on me and my car had to be towed to the dealer. I was just driving down the highway and some internal shaft/spline just snapped. The car only had 8k miles on it.
If you put an LS3 motor in front of the A4, the A4 would die very quickly.
#36
My 05 has 22,000 mlies perfect perfect considering keeping itand buying an 07 Z06.You have to remember us guys paid full price for our first year C6s.So GM I think went a little further in trying to make as many well as they could,they built mine great.Just my 2 cnts
#37
Team Owner
Yet I sit in my 2005 and then sit in a 2009 and it does not feel any difference though we know each year there are small refinements and the change to the LS-3 in 2008. But If I were to change I would just wait for the next generation so that it isn't like the same car from the base coupe, Z-06, GS and ZR-1. Just by sitting in them they all feel the same.
#38
Drifting
There are too many NICE cars out there to gamble on what may be someone elses problem car.
Just because it may be cheap,does not always make it a good deal.
#39
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