2012, any rumors?
10-12-2010, 09:31 AM
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Assuming the C7 release date is '13-'14 it will be interesting to see how sales on the current model hold up once there is a 'confirmed' date for the introduction, as they're not sufficient to keep BG busy even now. Building 'commemoratives' and other 'special editions' of a current car that's getting long in tooth can only go so far, as evident with the '09 GT1 models that didn't even reach their limited production targets. Competition from other vehicles and the aging of current 'Vette owners does not help the situation. I've had the first year (with early build #'s) cars from C4-C5-C6 production and will likely do the same with a C7, first year issues be damned! In the meantime, I'll hang on to the '05 as a few new color choices or interior trim will not lure me into another upgrade within the same generation. I did that with an '89 and '03 after having an '84 and '97. The newer versions had improvements, to be sure, but didn't have that totally 'new' feel to them driving home.
10-12-2010, 12:09 PM
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10-12-2010, 01:05 PM
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A friend of mine recently returned from BG where he was told by an official at the plant that, becuase the 30 year lease ends in 2011, they will not renew the lease but will move production to the Lansing, MI plant. This is because the BG plant is much too big for the production of one vehicle (the XLR has been canceled) and production costs will decrease in Michigan. This has not been officially announced as of yet. Because of this, I believe that if there is a 2012 model year Corvette, it will be the last C6 and it will be produced in BG in 2011.
The Lansing plant will be tooled for the 2013 C7 to be introduced in the fall of 2012. This will also be the 50th anniversary of the Stingray, and the C7 will be called a Stingray (possibly with a split window coupe).
The last C6, 2012 model year, will have almost nothing new from 2011.
The Lansing plant will be tooled for the 2013 C7 to be introduced in the fall of 2012. This will also be the 50th anniversary of the Stingray, and the C7 will be called a Stingray (possibly with a split window coupe).
The last C6, 2012 model year, will have almost nothing new from 2011.
10-12-2010, 01:34 PM
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A friend of mine recently returned from BG where he was told by an official at the plant that, becuase the 30 year lease ends in 2011, they will not renew the lease but will move production to the Lansing, MI plant. This is because the BG plant is much too big for the production of one vehicle (the XLR has been canceled) and production costs will decrease in Michigan. This has not been officially announced as of yet. Because of this, I believe that if there is a 2012 model year Corvette, it will be the last C6 and it will be produced in BG in 2011.
The Lansing plant will be tooled for the 2013 C7 to be introduced in the fall of 2012. This will also be the 50th anniversary of the Stingray, and the C7 will be called a Stingray (possibly with a split window coupe).
The last C6, 2012 model year, will have almost nothing new from 2011.
The Lansing plant will be tooled for the 2013 C7 to be introduced in the fall of 2012. This will also be the 50th anniversary of the Stingray, and the C7 will be called a Stingray (possibly with a split window coupe).
The last C6, 2012 model year, will have almost nothing new from 2011.
I have heard the samething, time will tell...
10-12-2010, 01:41 PM
#47
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There have been rumors of the BG/Lansing move posted over the last few months. The big loser in that deal would be the NCM, as museum deliveries would not take place and the plant tours not being held nearby would cut into museum attendance as well. Not what many want to happen, but it certainly could...
10-12-2010, 01:48 PM
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I'll start one. I think the Z06 and ZR1 are on the endangered list. Both of them are stone cold in the sales department right now. I'd guess one won't survive.
Other changes???? There was a strong rumor (from pretty good sources) that the C6 would get a new dash for 2010. The economy probably killed that. The problem now is that the C6 is coming to the end of its run. I find it hard to believe they will incorporate any changes that have much development and tooling cost if there is only one or two years left in the run.
The other possibility is that they could decide to do what they did with the C4. They could extend the run another 3-4 years and make more significant changes such as the interior.
Other changes???? There was a strong rumor (from pretty good sources) that the C6 would get a new dash for 2010. The economy probably killed that. The problem now is that the C6 is coming to the end of its run. I find it hard to believe they will incorporate any changes that have much development and tooling cost if there is only one or two years left in the run.
The other possibility is that they could decide to do what they did with the C4. They could extend the run another 3-4 years and make more significant changes such as the interior.
10-12-2010, 01:51 PM
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A friend of mine recently returned from BG where he was told by an official at the plant that, becuase the 30 year lease ends in 2011, they will not renew the lease but will move production to the Lansing, MI plant. This is because the BG plant is much too big for the production of one vehicle (the XLR has been canceled) and production costs will decrease in Michigan. This has not been officially announced as of yet. Because of this, I believe that if there is a 2012 model year Corvette, it will be the last C6 and it will be produced in BG in 2011.
The Lansing plant will be tooled for the 2013 C7 to be introduced in the fall of 2012. This will also be the 50th anniversary of the Stingray, and the C7 will be called a Stingray (possibly with a split window coupe).
The last C6, 2012 model year, will have almost nothing new from 2011.
The Lansing plant will be tooled for the 2013 C7 to be introduced in the fall of 2012. This will also be the 50th anniversary of the Stingray, and the C7 will be called a Stingray (possibly with a split window coupe).
The last C6, 2012 model year, will have almost nothing new from 2011.
Kinda sux for the museum delivery though. I mean they could still do it but you wouldn't have the factory across the street where they could take it back and do any last minute fixes. Plus the cars get dirty in transit and you couldn't do the factory tour the same day as delivery. I wonder if Kentucky would keep the vette as the state sports car?
10-12-2010, 04:10 PM
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10-12-2010, 09:40 PM
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A friend of mine recently returned from BG where he was told by an official at the plant that, becuase the 30 year lease ends in 2011, they will not renew the lease but will move production to the Lansing, MI plant. This is because the BG plant is much too big for the production of one vehicle (the XLR has been canceled) and production costs will decrease in Michigan. This has not been officially announced as of yet. Because of this, I believe that if there is a 2012 model year Corvette, it will be the last C6 and it will be produced in BG in 2011.
The Lansing plant will be tooled for the 2013 C7 to be introduced in the fall of 2012. This will also be the 50th anniversary of the Stingray, and the C7 will be called a Stingray (possibly with a split window coupe).
The last C6, 2012 model year, will have almost nothing new from 2011.
The Lansing plant will be tooled for the 2013 C7 to be introduced in the fall of 2012. This will also be the 50th anniversary of the Stingray, and the C7 will be called a Stingray (possibly with a split window coupe).
The last C6, 2012 model year, will have almost nothing new from 2011.
Yep. The Bowling Green plant will shut down and no longer produce the Corvette. It is costing GM tons of money and the Corvette is not selling enough to justify it being open.
Remember, GM just killed Pontiac and years ago, they killed the Oldsmobile. Olds was their oldest line, over 100+ years old, they killed it. GM has no "loyalty" to its lines, it will do what it believes brings in $$$. Even if that might mean killing the Corvette for a couple of years. They did it to the Camaro.
While GM might not kill the Corvette, they will shut down BG after 2011. Producing 10,000 units of the C6 cannot justify BG's existence. I have no doubt.
10-12-2010, 10:02 PM
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Only the worst problems can or will be fixed in the first year unless they were seen well before product release. The C5 was particularly clean given the protracted pre-production state it was in, but it still had problems (window regulator jams, steering lock, headlight bucket port covers falling out, all of which I had with my 1999).There is lots of evidence of the direct injected engine coming, I expect to see that before the C7.
10-12-2010, 10:33 PM
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Weird issues come up that the manufacturer can not foresee, only when the car gets driven by thousands of people for thousands of miles, do the problems come out.
He said that he would rather fly in a 5+ year production jet airplane, than a brand new design.
How about this 1st ever, computer automated airplane design ever flown?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kHa3WNerjU
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10-12-2010, 10:39 PM
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A friend of mine recently returned from BG where he was told by an official at the plant that, becuase the 30 year lease ends in 2011, they will not renew the lease but will move production to the Lansing, MI plant. This is because the BG plant is much too big for the production of one vehicle (the XLR has been canceled) and production costs will decrease in Michigan. This has not been officially announced as of yet. Because of this, I believe that if there is a 2012 model year Corvette, it will be the last C6 and it will be produced in BG in 2011.
The Lansing plant will be tooled for the 2013 C7 to be introduced in the fall of 2012. This will also be the 50th anniversary of the Stingray, and the C7 will be called a Stingray (possibly with a split window coupe).
The last C6, 2012 model year, will have almost nothing new from 2011.
The Lansing plant will be tooled for the 2013 C7 to be introduced in the fall of 2012. This will also be the 50th anniversary of the Stingray, and the C7 will be called a Stingray (possibly with a split window coupe).
The last C6, 2012 model year, will have almost nothing new from 2011.
But, the lease ending in 2011 would lend credence to the story, can anyone confirm or refute that?
OTOH, the C7 being out in two years sounds very unlikely, unless it is just a warmed-over C6. Which could be a very good car...
10-12-2010, 10:44 PM
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That is exactly what my engineer friend said. Although he usually waits 3 years before he buys a changed model line. Even if the C7 comes out in 2013. I would not buy one until 2015 or later.
Weird issues come up that the manufacturer can not foresee, only when the car gets driven by thousands of people for thousands of miles, do the problems come out.
He said that he would rather fly in a 5+ year production jet airplane, than a brand new design.
How about this 1st ever, computer automated airplane design ever flown?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kHa3WNerjU
Weird issues come up that the manufacturer can not foresee, only when the car gets driven by thousands of people for thousands of miles, do the problems come out.
He said that he would rather fly in a 5+ year production jet airplane, than a brand new design.
How about this 1st ever, computer automated airplane design ever flown?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kHa3WNerjU
Following your twisted logic all 3 of the first years of anything manufactured should be burned. Plenty of us are driving around in '05 Corvettes and lovin' it! I've never had one real issue with mine. Get a grip.
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10-13-2010, 04:17 AM
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Why are you insulting all the engineers here on the forum? Are you filling in for Racer44? Don't be such an a**munch!
You owe him an apology...
You need to take a chill, Mr. Racer44 wanna-be. Are you VetteDoogie the insult clown of the Corvette forum?
Last edited by LBear; 10-13-2010 at 04:23 AM.