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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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I'm traveling and have lost track of the vette keys. I'm wondering if they may be in the trunk... If they were, would the fob range be sufficient enough to be unlocking the doors? Obviously the doors are not unlocking, so if the range is sufficient I can rule the trunk out as possible places they could be.

On another note, how do you get into these cars without a fob or key? Given the electronic locks, I wouldn't know where to begin.

Thanks all for your help, and Merry Christmas.

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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Do you have OnStar? If you do, they can unlock the car for you remotely.

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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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OnStar can do it.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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It depends on where in the trunk.

If you don't have a fob or a key, you are sol. You will need a locksmith or a dealer's help. To get that, you will (hopefully) need proof of ownership.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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Good thought with the onstar, but I don't have it.

And I am assuming I will need professional help to get in there, but I'm just curious about the method, especially for non-gm techs. Any insight?
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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If I were going to use a locksmith I'd have him jimmy the lock under the hatch.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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Have you tried the release button on the rear for the trunk? I locked my Fob in the trunk once, the doors would not unlock, but the trunk did when I pressed the button.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Some Forum Members who have locked themselves out of their cars (and leaving the fob in the trunk is a common way to do this) have had locksmiths get in by hooking the mechanical door release lever located near the floor next to the door jamb.

Good Luck and maybe you should consider hiding the metal key somewhere on the outside of the car.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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Lesson learned. Set the warning in the DIC to beep the horn when you leave the FOB in the car. That's what it's for.

The only way you will get in is through the lock cylinder for the rear hatch. A good locksmith should have no trouble.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 04:47 PM
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I didn't expect this issue to come up until the "spring thaw!" Between the dead batteries, rotten fuel, "should I change oil?", mice living in the air cleaner issues, I just didn't see this until April/May...
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I didn't expect this issue to come up until the "spring thaw!" Between the dead batteries, rotten fuel, "should I change oil?", mice living in the air cleaner issues, I just didn't see this until April/May...
Because he locked his key in the car?

I didn't realize there was a season for that.
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Maybe you can get a long sturdy wire, with a loop on one end, around the driver or passenger window seal... then hook it on the manual door release lever and pull.

I hesitate to recommend this because:
-- you might damage/tear the window's weatherstripping
-- you might scratch the window
-- you might scratch the door trim
-- you might scratch/tear the seat leather
-- some folks can't even find the release lever when they're sitting in the driver's seat
-- after spending hours damaging lots of stuff, you might never get this to work
-- if you succeed & open the door, your alarm will likely honk until you find the fob or disconnect the battery (don't lose the terminal nut).

And I don't recall a single thread or post mentioning use of this technique, successful or otherwise.

BTW, I suspect a locksmith would open the trunk/hatch, then pull the manual release tab. This should also activate the alarm.

Good luck.
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Originally Posted by category4
Have you tried the release button on the rear for the trunk? I locked my Fob in the trunk once, the doors would not unlock, but the trunk did when I pressed the button.
Excellent suggestion!
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Originally Posted by CO Lightfoot
Excellent suggestion!
No luck with this. Is it then reasonable to assume the fob is not in the trunk?
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Big JL
No luck with this. Is it then reasonable to assume the fob is not in the trunk?
No. It is still possible your fob is in the trunk.

Lots of reports of a "dead zone" in the trunk/hatch area, where the fob is not detected.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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No luck with this. Is it then reasonable to assume the fob is not in the trunk?
No I have done it twice, this worked once and not the other. Just depends on where the Fob is located within the trunk.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CO Lightfoot
Lots of reports of a "dead zone" in the trunk/hatch area, where the fob is not detected.
Actually, its more than reports. The hatch does not detect fobs by design. You need an area in the car where fobs CAN be locked in without compromising security of the car and GM knew this. For example, say my wife and I both have a fob, mine in my pocket and hers in her purse. We decide to take a walk, go to the beach, etc. If she decides to lock her purse in the car but everywhere in the car means the car is unlocked, she's out of luck. Hence, the hatch area coverage is designed (like a trunk) to permit securing a fob and still keep the car locked.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by foremaw
Actually, its more than reports. The hatch does not detect fobs by design. You need an area in the car where fobs CAN be locked in without compromising security of the car and GM knew this. For example, say my wife and I both have a fob, mine in my pocket and hers in her purse. We decide to take a walk, go to the beach, etc. If she decides to lock her purse in the car but everywhere in the car means the car is unlocked, she's out of luck. Hence, the hatch area coverage is designed (like a trunk) to permit securing a fob and still keep the car locked.
Not entirely true. The car actually knows if you have 2 fobs in the car and then get out with just 1 fob. It will lock. My wife left her purse on the passengers side floor and it locked.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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Call On Star, tell them honestly your car is locked, can they sign you up and than unlock your car!!! may be cheaper than a locksmith
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by kornyboy
Not entirely true. The car actually knows if you have 2 fobs in the car and then get out with just 1 fob. It will lock. My wife left her purse on the passengers side floor and it locked.
I just tried this. Opened door and put both FOBs inside. Closed door. Opened door and took one out leaving the other in the center of the driver's seat. Door auto locked. Left second FOB 10 feet away. Door would not open until second FOB returned to close range.
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