$45 bucks more for 911 Interior ?
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ALMS21, you don't get the point of what the majority of the folks are expressing on this thread. I agree with those that state that the quality of the Corvette's interior and seats are not up to the standards that should be expected from a car as expensive as a Corvette. Chevy should be able to do better for their flagship and most expensive vehicle. If you feel otherwise, that is fine. That is why they make chocolate and vanilla so that we can all have a choice. But that is probably also why Chevy hasn't done anything to 'improve' what so many complain about.
Many compared a Porsche's interior quality to that of the Corvette. That may offend some because of brand loyalty. That was not my intent, and therefore, I compared my new 2010 'Chevy' Siverado's interior with that of the 2011 'Chevy' Corvette. Apples to Apples. Same company. IMHO, the truck's seats are more firmer and doesn't feel like its going to break or bend, the plastic pieces of the interior fit better, doesn't squeak, and to me, it has an overall better looking detailed finished interior. But, then again, opinions may differ. And as unbelieveable as it may sound, the truck is at half the price of a Corvette. So that means to me, that Chevy can do it. That they can do a better job within the price range of a Corvette. So why haven't they done so? Why should I have to go to Caravaggio for those improvements that should be standard feature? Why should I have to pay the extra money for something that should be there -- other vehicles and brands within the price range of a Corvette have it.
Yes, the interior is important to me. The Corvette has probably one of the nicest looking exteriors of any other car and its shape is an American icon. The engine is powerful and it is a pleasure to listen to the exhaust tone. But, when I drive, I don't sit on top of the engine, nor do I sit on the roof, I sit inside the car. That is where I live, and at the stage of life I am in, would really like to enjoy the quality around me and be lulled by the rumbling of the engine and the notes of the exhaust. Quality should be expected from this great vehicle. I, and many others are hoping that the C7 will bring the much needed improvements.
Now, as a last comment, I will eventually buy a Corvette. (my wife has given her blessing to do it now). It will either be 2011/2012 4LT (and hopefully the 4LT will difuse some of the perceptions of poor interior quality), or maybe I will wait until the C7 comes out and see what that promises. As a note, I have been in contact with Chris at Callaway for a possible upgrade - don't have all the info yet, and haven't made a decision yet, but.......................who knows right now. I am excited about getting a Corvette, I just want them to do better job on the inside.
Many compared a Porsche's interior quality to that of the Corvette. That may offend some because of brand loyalty. That was not my intent, and therefore, I compared my new 2010 'Chevy' Siverado's interior with that of the 2011 'Chevy' Corvette. Apples to Apples. Same company. IMHO, the truck's seats are more firmer and doesn't feel like its going to break or bend, the plastic pieces of the interior fit better, doesn't squeak, and to me, it has an overall better looking detailed finished interior. But, then again, opinions may differ. And as unbelieveable as it may sound, the truck is at half the price of a Corvette. So that means to me, that Chevy can do it. That they can do a better job within the price range of a Corvette. So why haven't they done so? Why should I have to go to Caravaggio for those improvements that should be standard feature? Why should I have to pay the extra money for something that should be there -- other vehicles and brands within the price range of a Corvette have it.
Yes, the interior is important to me. The Corvette has probably one of the nicest looking exteriors of any other car and its shape is an American icon. The engine is powerful and it is a pleasure to listen to the exhaust tone. But, when I drive, I don't sit on top of the engine, nor do I sit on the roof, I sit inside the car. That is where I live, and at the stage of life I am in, would really like to enjoy the quality around me and be lulled by the rumbling of the engine and the notes of the exhaust. Quality should be expected from this great vehicle. I, and many others are hoping that the C7 will bring the much needed improvements.
Now, as a last comment, I will eventually buy a Corvette. (my wife has given her blessing to do it now). It will either be 2011/2012 4LT (and hopefully the 4LT will difuse some of the perceptions of poor interior quality), or maybe I will wait until the C7 comes out and see what that promises. As a note, I have been in contact with Chris at Callaway for a possible upgrade - don't have all the info yet, and haven't made a decision yet, but.......................who knows right now. I am excited about getting a Corvette, I just want them to do better job on the inside.
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ALMS21, you don't get the point of what the majority of the folks are expressing on this thread. I agree with those that state that the quality of the Corvette's interior and seats are not up to the standards that should be expected from a car as expensive as a Corvette. Chevy should be able to do better for their flagship and most expensive vehicle. If you feel otherwise, that is fine. That is why they make chocolate and vanilla so that we can all have a choice. But that is probably also why Chevy hasn't done anything to 'improve' what so many complain about.
Many compared a Porsche's interior quality to that of the Corvette. That may offend some because of brand loyalty. That was not my intent, and therefore, I compared my new 2010 'Chevy' Siverado's interior with that of the 2011 'Chevy' Corvette. Apples to Apples. Same company. IMHO, the truck's seats are more firmer and doesn't feel like its going to break or bend, the plastic pieces of the interior fit better, doesn't squeak, and to me, it has an overall better looking detailed finished interior. But, then again, opinions may differ. And as unbelieveable as it may sound, the truck is at half the price of a Corvette. So that means to me, that Chevy can do it. That they can do a better job within the price range of a Corvette. So why haven't they done so? Why should I have to go to Caravaggio for those improvements that should be standard feature? Why should I have to pay the extra money for something that should be there -- other vehicles and brands within the price range of a Corvette have it.
Yes, the interior is important to me. The Corvette has probably one of the nicest looking exteriors of any other car and its shape is an American icon. The engine is powerful and it is a pleasure to listen to the exhaust tone. But, when I drive, I don't sit on top of the engine, nor do I sit on the roof, I sit inside the car. That is where I live, and at the stage of life I am in, would really like to enjoy the quality around me and be lulled by the rumbling of the engine and the notes of the exhaust. Quality should be expected from this great vehicle. I, and many others are hoping that the C7 will bring the much needed improvements.
Now, as a last comment, I will eventually buy a Corvette. (my wife has given her blessing to do it now). It will either be 2011/2012 4LT (and hopefully the 4LT will difuse some of the perceptions of poor interior quality), or maybe I will wait until the C7 comes out and see what that promises. As a note, I have been in contact with Chris at Callaway for a possible upgrade - don't have all the info yet, and haven't made a decision yet, but.......................who knows right now. I am excited about getting a Corvette, I just want them to do better job on the inside.
Many compared a Porsche's interior quality to that of the Corvette. That may offend some because of brand loyalty. That was not my intent, and therefore, I compared my new 2010 'Chevy' Siverado's interior with that of the 2011 'Chevy' Corvette. Apples to Apples. Same company. IMHO, the truck's seats are more firmer and doesn't feel like its going to break or bend, the plastic pieces of the interior fit better, doesn't squeak, and to me, it has an overall better looking detailed finished interior. But, then again, opinions may differ. And as unbelieveable as it may sound, the truck is at half the price of a Corvette. So that means to me, that Chevy can do it. That they can do a better job within the price range of a Corvette. So why haven't they done so? Why should I have to go to Caravaggio for those improvements that should be standard feature? Why should I have to pay the extra money for something that should be there -- other vehicles and brands within the price range of a Corvette have it.
Yes, the interior is important to me. The Corvette has probably one of the nicest looking exteriors of any other car and its shape is an American icon. The engine is powerful and it is a pleasure to listen to the exhaust tone. But, when I drive, I don't sit on top of the engine, nor do I sit on the roof, I sit inside the car. That is where I live, and at the stage of life I am in, would really like to enjoy the quality around me and be lulled by the rumbling of the engine and the notes of the exhaust. Quality should be expected from this great vehicle. I, and many others are hoping that the C7 will bring the much needed improvements.
Now, as a last comment, I will eventually buy a Corvette. (my wife has given her blessing to do it now). It will either be 2011/2012 4LT (and hopefully the 4LT will difuse some of the perceptions of poor interior quality), or maybe I will wait until the C7 comes out and see what that promises. As a note, I have been in contact with Chris at Callaway for a possible upgrade - don't have all the info yet, and haven't made a decision yet, but.......................who knows right now. I am excited about getting a Corvette, I just want them to do better job on the inside.
I've owned three Porsches (an '03 996TT, '06 CaymanS, '05 997S) and am no brand snob, *****, fanboi, etc. I'm just saying that the Porsche 911 interiors just aren't that great. The 996 model year interiors (which ran up to 2005 for the Turbos) sucked a$$ in a major way. My wife is no car afficianado and her first comment when she got in my 996TT was "this is the interior you get in a $120K car?" (I did not buy the car new and paid slightly more than 1/2 of that $120K 3.5 years later) Porsche got it somewhat right in the 997.1 and better yet in the 997.2. Even still, the interior they slap in a $100K 997S isn't Lexus like in any respect. On top of that, you have to look at the whole package --- the Vettes performance is just as good or better and the car costs $40K less. The question is this --- Is the slightly better interior and the Stuttgart badge on the hood worth $40K? Comparing a Vettes interior to a Porsche interior doesn't hold water to me. One is considerably more expensive than the other.
Good luck on your decision and here's hoping for an improved (even on par with the Caddy CTS-V) interior in the C7 In the meantime, I'll wait for my 4LT Grand Sport to arrive....then I will install a real carbon fibre bezel and wrap the instrument pods with DSV leather. That should work for me.
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You're saying the 996 Turbo's interior sucked a$$ in a major way? If so, can you provide specifics as to why it was so bad?
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[QUOTE=fmarshall;1576943239) The biggest differences in a Porsche are internals. The engines are designed and built well. They last way more miles than the American engines, in general. [/QUOTE]
Spoken by someone I am sure who has never owned one!
Spoken by someone I am sure who has never owned one!
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The first pic is my former 996TT
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Notch - I will retract that comment to say -- very bland & drab with big unpleasant looking shiny black plastic buttons. I will come back and edit this post with a picture of mine before I added some aftermarket pieces. It just isn't appealing at all. Saying it sucked a$$ was too extreme of a comment.
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Fair enough.
I guess it depends on one's definition of "shiny". The buttons are certainly not gloss finished, and they certainly aren't flat finished. Do they have a soft luster? Yes.
I guess it depends on one's definition of "shiny". The buttons are certainly not gloss finished, and they certainly aren't flat finished. Do they have a soft luster? Yes.
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the biggest problem i have is with the interior is how coarse the trim material is... its so flat and coarse that if i brush my knuckels on the door trim it leaves trails, I can write on them like a chalk board
well that and the Bluetooth system SUCKS!!!! no visual audio and voice control only
slightly O/T
but as for the driving "feel" as a whole it feels on par with my last 07 BMW 335i.
the beemer always had minor rattles, the Vette has only one in the seat belt retractor area over bumps
obviously i chose the vette for the FUN factor vs. fit/ finnish
at same time I DEFINATLY would pay for nicer interior surfaces in the various trim levels..
for the price of this car, it should have the 4lt leather coverage as standard. that also covers up most of the very cheap American looking plastics.
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I know you are a big Porsche fan. I am as well (although not to the degree that you are). I think they make fanstastic vehicles that are very well put together. I'm pretty sure that my 997S was an anomaly in how bad it rattled.
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For those of you that b!tch about the Vette sterring wheel (I'm not the biggest fan of it either), this is the steering wheel in a 997.1 Porsche 911S. Pretty damn ugly and cheap looking too, is it not? ....not to mention that it is probably the skinniest steering wheel I've felt in a sportscar. To Porsche's defense they have improved it significantly with the 997.2. Hopefully, GM will hear everyone's complaints about the Vette's steering wheel and do the same. <<<<holds breath>>>>
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hmmmmmm. every panel in that picture is plastic or vinyl. the only leather i see is the shift boot and wheel.
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Well since you asked......
I am certain I am not the first to list these, but here are my griefs with the interior. This is from 3 years with my 07 3LT
1. Seats are made of VERY low quality leather. Come on, I have never seen leather this bad. My 99 Mustang had much better leather. Every car I have been in with leather seats are better than mine.
2. Seat padding is entirely too thin.
3. Center radio bezel and associated grey bits is made of extremely cheap plastic and doesn't match the rest of the interior at all. They did improve this in 08 though.
4. Steering wheel center Vette Logo is too easy to dent when using the horn. Inexcusable. Of course the steering wheel in and of itself is cheap and the same as the HHR among other cars.
5. Center console lid cover is really cheap looking low quality vinyl. At least I could replace that easily enough.
6. The trunk cover is like a black shower curtain. So unnecessarily cheap.
7. The ashtray is not flush with the rest of the dash on many vettes. Poor QA.
8. Premium Bose radio amp and speakers are just the pits for sound quality and volume. Most cheap-o rental cars have a better sound system than the "high-end" Bose.
Just because I buy the car and love th exterior and drive train doesn't mean I have to be happy with the highest trim model having a worse interior than a 20K car, and worse than most other GM interiors.
It is entirely too late for them to fix the C6 interior. We'll see about the C7.
I am certain I am not the first to list these, but here are my griefs with the interior. This is from 3 years with my 07 3LT
1. Seats are made of VERY low quality leather. Come on, I have never seen leather this bad. My 99 Mustang had much better leather. Every car I have been in with leather seats are better than mine.
2. Seat padding is entirely too thin.
3. Center radio bezel and associated grey bits is made of extremely cheap plastic and doesn't match the rest of the interior at all. They did improve this in 08 though.
4. Steering wheel center Vette Logo is too easy to dent when using the horn. Inexcusable. Of course the steering wheel in and of itself is cheap and the same as the HHR among other cars.
5. Center console lid cover is really cheap looking low quality vinyl. At least I could replace that easily enough.
6. The trunk cover is like a black shower curtain. So unnecessarily cheap.
7. The ashtray is not flush with the rest of the dash on many vettes. Poor QA.
8. Premium Bose radio amp and speakers are just the pits for sound quality and volume. Most cheap-o rental cars have a better sound system than the "high-end" Bose.
Just because I buy the car and love th exterior and drive train doesn't mean I have to be happy with the highest trim model having a worse interior than a 20K car, and worse than most other GM interiors.
It is entirely too late for them to fix the C6 interior. We'll see about the C7.
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You can get no leather, partial leather or full leather packages without having to spend an arm and a leg on 20 other options you don't want.
Same goes for the steering wheel. My dad go the thick leather option on the wheel (partial leather elsewhere) and it's one of the nicest feeling steering wheels I've ever used.
If corvette offered a "full leather" or "partial leather" option to be bought outright or steering wheel and seat options as porsche does most of my complaints would be gone. My gripe with GM is that WE DON'T HAVE AN OPTION.
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The issues I personally have with both the 996 and 997 interiors is not the quality of the materials or the quality of construction, but with the trend towards the "GT" look/function and away from the "sports car" look/function. The steering wheel is just one example of this.
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You guys crack me up. Life must be tough if your biggest concern is arguing over whether your Porsche or your Corvette has a worse interior.
I think you guys forget sometimes how lucky you are to own one of the world's greatest sports cars. Some of you have also been even more fortunate to not only own a Vette but other desirable sports cars such as Porsche or exotics like Ferrari and Lambo etc...As far as I'm concerned you guys really don't have much to complain about.
You could be in my shoes:
- Last Vette,'97 C5 coupe, sold March 2002. Stuck driving a scratched, dented, squeaky 2002 model yr. truck w/115K on the clock. Wife driving a 2004 SUV w/155K on the clock.
- All retirement savings gone (as in ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH)
- All credit & credit rating gone (as in filed BK last summer)
- Still have the IRS breathing down my neck & I pay them monthly.
- Have a rental home where the rent the tenants pay only covers P&I but not the taxes, insurance, & HOA dues. I bought it new in 2001 & will be lucky if I can sell it this year for the same price I paid for it 10 yrs. ago!!!
- For the last 2 years I've been living in a small 1,620 sq. ft. 25 year old house that doesn't even have a garage. The only thing I like about this house is the 6 wooded acres it sits on.
I could go on but I think you get the picture. So life could be a lot worse than owning a C6 and/or a Porsche with a cheap interior. I would be happy to own either of them right now.
Hopefully, Chevy will rectify the interior issue with the C7.
I think you guys forget sometimes how lucky you are to own one of the world's greatest sports cars. Some of you have also been even more fortunate to not only own a Vette but other desirable sports cars such as Porsche or exotics like Ferrari and Lambo etc...As far as I'm concerned you guys really don't have much to complain about.
You could be in my shoes:
- Last Vette,'97 C5 coupe, sold March 2002. Stuck driving a scratched, dented, squeaky 2002 model yr. truck w/115K on the clock. Wife driving a 2004 SUV w/155K on the clock.
- All retirement savings gone (as in ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH)
- All credit & credit rating gone (as in filed BK last summer)
- Still have the IRS breathing down my neck & I pay them monthly.
- Have a rental home where the rent the tenants pay only covers P&I but not the taxes, insurance, & HOA dues. I bought it new in 2001 & will be lucky if I can sell it this year for the same price I paid for it 10 yrs. ago!!!
- For the last 2 years I've been living in a small 1,620 sq. ft. 25 year old house that doesn't even have a garage. The only thing I like about this house is the 6 wooded acres it sits on.
I could go on but I think you get the picture. So life could be a lot worse than owning a C6 and/or a Porsche with a cheap interior. I would be happy to own either of them right now.
Hopefully, Chevy will rectify the interior issue with the C7.
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You guys crack me up. Life must be tough if your biggest concern is arguing over whether your Porsche or your Corvette has a worse interior.
I think you guys forget sometimes how lucky you are to own one of the world's greatest sports cars. Some of you have also been even more fortunate to not only own a Vette but other desirable sports cars such as Porsche or exotics like Ferrari and Lambo etc...As far as I'm concerned you guys really don't have much to complain about.
You could be in my shoes:
- Last Vette,'97 C5 coupe, sold March 2002. Stuck driving a scratched, dented, squeaky 2002 model yr. truck w/115K on the clock. Wife driving a 2004 SUV w/155K on the clock.
- All retirement savings gone (as in ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH)
- All credit & credit rating gone (as in filed BK last summer)
- Still have the IRS breathing down my neck & I pay them monthly.
- Have a rental home where the rent the tenants pay only covers P&I but not the taxes, insurance, & HOA dues. I bought it new in 2001 & will be lucky if I can sell it this year for the same price I paid for it 10 yrs. ago!!!
- For the last 2 years I've been living in a small 1,620 sq. ft. 25 year old house that doesn't even have a garage. The only thing I like about this house is the 6 wooded acres it sits on.
I could go on but I think you get the picture. So life could be a lot worse than owning a C6 and/or a Porsche with a cheap interior. I would be happy to own either of them right now.
I think you guys forget sometimes how lucky you are to own one of the world's greatest sports cars. Some of you have also been even more fortunate to not only own a Vette but other desirable sports cars such as Porsche or exotics like Ferrari and Lambo etc...As far as I'm concerned you guys really don't have much to complain about.
You could be in my shoes:
- Last Vette,'97 C5 coupe, sold March 2002. Stuck driving a scratched, dented, squeaky 2002 model yr. truck w/115K on the clock. Wife driving a 2004 SUV w/155K on the clock.
- All retirement savings gone (as in ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH)
- All credit & credit rating gone (as in filed BK last summer)
- Still have the IRS breathing down my neck & I pay them monthly.
- Have a rental home where the rent the tenants pay only covers P&I but not the taxes, insurance, & HOA dues. I bought it new in 2001 & will be lucky if I can sell it this year for the same price I paid for it 10 yrs. ago!!!
- For the last 2 years I've been living in a small 1,620 sq. ft. 25 year old house that doesn't even have a garage. The only thing I like about this house is the 6 wooded acres it sits on.
I could go on but I think you get the picture. So life could be a lot worse than owning a C6 and/or a Porsche with a cheap interior. I would be happy to own either of them right now.
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You guys crack me up. Life must be tough if your biggest concern is arguing over whether your Porsche or your Corvette has a worse interior.
I think you guys forget sometimes how lucky you are to own one of the world's greatest sports cars. Some of you have also been even more fortunate to not only own a Vette but other desirable sports cars such as Porsche or exotics like Ferrari and Lambo etc...As far as I'm concerned you guys really don't have much to complain about.
You could be in my shoes:
- Last Vette,'97 C5 coupe, sold March 2002. Stuck driving a scratched, dented, squeaky 2002 model yr. truck w/115K on the clock. Wife driving a 2004 SUV w/155K on the clock.
- All retirement savings gone (as in ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH)
- All credit & credit rating gone (as in filed BK last summer)
- Still have the IRS breathing down my neck & I pay them monthly.
- Have a rental home where the rent the tenants pay only covers P&I but not the taxes, insurance, & HOA dues. I bought it new in 2001 & will be lucky if I can sell it this year for the same price I paid for it 10 yrs. ago!!!
- For the last 2 years I've been living in a small 1,620 sq. ft. 25 year old house that doesn't even have a garage. The only thing I like about this house is the 6 wooded acres it sits on.
I could go on but I think you get the picture. So life could be a lot worse than owning a C6 and/or a Porsche with a cheap interior. I would be happy to own either of them right now.
Hopefully, Chevy will rectify the interior issue with the C7.
I think you guys forget sometimes how lucky you are to own one of the world's greatest sports cars. Some of you have also been even more fortunate to not only own a Vette but other desirable sports cars such as Porsche or exotics like Ferrari and Lambo etc...As far as I'm concerned you guys really don't have much to complain about.
You could be in my shoes:
- Last Vette,'97 C5 coupe, sold March 2002. Stuck driving a scratched, dented, squeaky 2002 model yr. truck w/115K on the clock. Wife driving a 2004 SUV w/155K on the clock.
- All retirement savings gone (as in ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH)
- All credit & credit rating gone (as in filed BK last summer)
- Still have the IRS breathing down my neck & I pay them monthly.
- Have a rental home where the rent the tenants pay only covers P&I but not the taxes, insurance, & HOA dues. I bought it new in 2001 & will be lucky if I can sell it this year for the same price I paid for it 10 yrs. ago!!!
- For the last 2 years I've been living in a small 1,620 sq. ft. 25 year old house that doesn't even have a garage. The only thing I like about this house is the 6 wooded acres it sits on.
I could go on but I think you get the picture. So life could be a lot worse than owning a C6 and/or a Porsche with a cheap interior. I would be happy to own either of them right now.
Hopefully, Chevy will rectify the interior issue with the C7.
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I would say it would be fair to say "par" is in relation to other vehicles in a similar price range.
The ZL1 Camaro and CTS-V are examples of GM cars that will be similarly priced, have awesome value in class when it comes to power, handling, etc... and have much nicer interiors than the vette.
Like I said. I'd be really happy to see the Vette offered as a bare-bones 1lt option for low 40s and then have a lot of a la carte items to be added such as sport seats, steering wheel, leather options, and so on to build it up to a world class 60k+ sports car.
Just my views, of course.
The ZL1 Camaro and CTS-V are examples of GM cars that will be similarly priced, have awesome value in class when it comes to power, handling, etc... and have much nicer interiors than the vette.
Like I said. I'd be really happy to see the Vette offered as a bare-bones 1lt option for low 40s and then have a lot of a la carte items to be added such as sport seats, steering wheel, leather options, and so on to build it up to a world class 60k+ sports car.
Just my views, of course.
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