Switched to ceramic brakes...thumbs up!
03-22-2011, 08:58 PM
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03-22-2011, 09:15 PM
#22
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Obviously you were talking about me and what I do with my car. Your own words prove you're full of it!
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Where does the OP say he doesnt or wont be tracking his car? Where does he say he wont be making repeated hard stops anywhere? Or the other members who took part in this discussion? Or those that read without posting. You speak for all them also?
The post I quoted and agreed with was in regards to ceramics not being up to par when very hot and can cause poor or dangerous stopping, whether tracking or not. There are those members that heat up the brakes pretty damn good on the street, enough to cause fade with ceramics.
Maybe you should N&V your obnoxious self.
Last edited by NYC6; 03-22-2011 at 09:23 PM.
03-22-2011, 09:20 PM
#23
Team Owner
Where does the OP say he doesnt or wont be tracking his car? Where does he say he wont be making repeated hard stops anywhere? Or the other members who took part in this discussion? Or those that read without posting. You speak for all them also?
The post I quoted and agreed with was in regards to ceramics not being up to par when very hot and can cause poor or dangerous stopping, whether tracking or not. There are those members that heat up the brakes pretty damn good on the street, enough to cause fade with ceramics.
Maybe you should N&V your obnoxious self.
The post I quoted and agreed with was in regards to ceramics not being up to par when very hot and can cause poor or dangerous stopping, whether tracking or not. There are those members that heat up the brakes pretty damn good on the street, enough to cause fade with ceramics.
Maybe you should N&V your obnoxious self.
03-22-2011, 09:28 PM
#24
Team Owner
There are several right here who disagree with you. But your to damn obnoxious to even have that register in your head! You're a joke!
Last edited by NYC6; 03-22-2011 at 09:30 PM.
03-22-2011, 09:30 PM
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03-22-2011, 09:34 PM
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03-22-2011, 09:43 PM
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03-24-2011, 01:04 AM
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Please help a newb out that needs to replace brake pads, I have z-51 brakes and would love to loose the brake dust but don't want to sacrifice performance. How hard to you have to ride ceramics to make them fade and if the get that hot will they do damage to the rotors. Also do I need to replace the rotors too? Any ceramics that won't fade with heat?
Also is pad replacement an easy DIY? How bout rotors?
Also is pad replacement an easy DIY? How bout rotors?
03-24-2011, 01:28 AM
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From Op ...
I do not track the car as it is a daily driver.
After reading and researching, the ceramics seemed like the best choice. For vets, doesn't the zr1 come from the factory with ceramics?
two cents worth from tirerack:
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/....jsp?techid=88
For daily drivers, IMO, ceramic pads are worth it!
I do not track the car as it is a daily driver.
After reading and researching, the ceramics seemed like the best choice. For vets, doesn't the zr1 come from the factory with ceramics?
two cents worth from tirerack:
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/....jsp?techid=88
For daily drivers, IMO, ceramic pads are worth it!
03-24-2011, 01:39 AM
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From what I read, I do not think ceramics have a heat fade problem in daily driving. Even in panic stops there is no fade relative to the heat issue and tests have shown they may actually work better for safety because they improve responses to the computer controlling a panic stop.
But for racing on a track, that is another issue.
03-24-2011, 10:13 AM
#34
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Good opinion, and valid.
From what I read, I do not think ceramics have a heat fade problem in daily driving. Even in panic stops there is no fade relative to the heat issue and tests have shown they may actually work better for safety because they improve responses to the computer controlling a panic stop.
But for racing on a track, that is another issue.
From what I read, I do not think ceramics have a heat fade problem in daily driving. Even in panic stops there is no fade relative to the heat issue and tests have shown they may actually work better for safety because they improve responses to the computer controlling a panic stop.
But for racing on a track, that is another issue.
Not valid to this thread, op wasn't talking about tracking his car.
03-24-2011, 12:23 PM
#35
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From Op ...
I do not track the car as it is a daily driver.
After reading and researching, the ceramics seemed like the best choice. For vets, doesn't the zr1 come from the factory with ceramics?
two cents worth from tirerack:
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/....jsp?techid=88
For daily drivers, IMO, ceramic pads are worth it!
I do not track the car as it is a daily driver.
After reading and researching, the ceramics seemed like the best choice. For vets, doesn't the zr1 come from the factory with ceramics?
two cents worth from tirerack:
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/....jsp?techid=88
For daily drivers, IMO, ceramic pads are worth it!
03-24-2011, 04:53 PM
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950 degrees on the street! Someone is canyon racing or drives with their foot on the brake pedal all of the time. Typical temperatures for the Los Angeles new car road test during rush hour is 250 to 550 degrees averaging 350. Operating ranges for an OE ceramic brake pad is 100 to 600 degrees. After that wear ability increases at a very high rate. 90% of the typical Corvette owners will not see any higher temperatures than 500. GM's largest supplier of friction is a ceramic pad which includes all of their 1/2 and 3/4 ton truck platforms.
You do get what you pay for with brake pads. Do not expect the same performance from a $20 pad and a $50 pad. Ceramics should not be used for any track time unless you are just putting around on the track.
You do get what you pay for with brake pads. Do not expect the same performance from a $20 pad and a $50 pad. Ceramics should not be used for any track time unless you are just putting around on the track.
03-24-2011, 07:57 PM
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So I have to get them from the dealer ? How much approx. for grand sport ceramic brakes ? I just zinc coated my rotors and powder coated rotors, calipers and lug nuts. Waiting to get everything back maybe I should go and get the ceramic ones ???
03-24-2011, 08:56 PM
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