1-4 shift
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From: Arlington VA
1-4-5 city shifting for the vette
1-4-6 hwy shifting for the vette
Always engine brake, and downshift thru some gears matching rpms on deceleration
Always keep the car in 1st gear at a short stop, in case emergency acceleration is needed
Always park the car in 1st gear and trust that instead of the emergency brake
Been driving a manual tran car for the past 22 years.. been riding/racing manual tran sportbikes & dirtbikes for the past 28 years.. never had a problem doing the above.
The 1-4 doesnt bother me, because if you actually get on it a little bit. It disengages and works perfectly normal.
Opulence.. I has it. But I also likes savings zee the money.
1-4-6 hwy shifting for the vette
Always engine brake, and downshift thru some gears matching rpms on deceleration
Always keep the car in 1st gear at a short stop, in case emergency acceleration is needed
Always park the car in 1st gear and trust that instead of the emergency brake
Been driving a manual tran car for the past 22 years.. been riding/racing manual tran sportbikes & dirtbikes for the past 28 years.. never had a problem doing the above.
The 1-4 doesnt bother me, because if you actually get on it a little bit. It disengages and works perfectly normal.
Opulence.. I has it. But I also likes savings zee the money.
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Burning Brakes
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I installed the $20 CAGS eliminator and just drive like I've driven every stick shift car I've driven since 1956. I decide when I want to shift, and what gear I want to shift to, not what the car thinks I should. If I had wanted the car to do my thinking for me, I would have purchased the auto transmission option. But if I had purchased the auto transmission option, I would not be driving a Z06.
Installing a skip shift eliminator is the only way to fly.
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GSRANDY
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From: Wheaton Illinois
I have the CAGS delete fuse, but still use a 1-3 shift for a mile or so after a cold start-up. Probably mistakenly believing some preservation of the 2nd gear synchros. This proved necessary with previously owned Ferraris and never got out of the habit. Discussions welcome.
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I rather have my break pads replaced every two years than my clutch. I can understand if it's a safety thing but still I don't see anything wrong about coasting for a little bit in neutral before the stop sign.
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I'm not really concerned about gas milage, but I shift from 1-4 when in city/residential areas. There are times to drive this car hard, and there are times to drive normal. I'm not going to run sequentially through the gears to get up to speed as fast as I can just to have to downshift when the car in front of me breaks.... Funny how some here have been driving stick for 22 years...I've been driving stick for 22...........days. Still have a ton to learn but I love it and I love learning the intricacies of the Z. What a car!
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Other then when taking off from a dead stop in first gear, I never drive in any gear under 1,000 RPM. If I'm dropping below 1,000 RPM, I downshift.
Sometimes, if traffic is moving slowly, I will shift from 1st to 3rd. At 2,000 RPM in first at 17.45 MPH, I drop to 978 RPM in 3rd gear at 17.45 MPH, but quickly accelerate past 1,000 RPM. At least when I shift into 3rd gear from 1st gear, I have more torque multiplication in 3rd gear vs 4th gear. My comfort zone is 1,000+ RPM in any gear.
The reason I keep mentioning 17.45 MPH as that is close to the middle of the 15 to 19 MPH span that the CAGS kicks in.
I don't take off from a dead stop in 2nd gear as it just causes more wear on the clutch as you have to slip it more then when taking off in 1st gear.
Last edited by JoesC5; Apr 5, 2011 at 09:52 PM.
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A two dollar resister fixes cags as well...but i was lazy and bought the cags for the Vette....all the others I used the resister...
edit for I never coast out of gear...I do occasionally go 1/3/5 and I will also start in second some...No real reason except instinct....My hand knows what my mind knows....
One of the better benefits of the stick is I think I have have a greater feel and control of speed and being connected.......I go too fast in an auto. In town 4th gear is the bomb for speed control...
edit for I never coast out of gear...I do occasionally go 1/3/5 and I will also start in second some...No real reason except instinct....My hand knows what my mind knows....
One of the better benefits of the stick is I think I have have a greater feel and control of speed and being connected.......I go too fast in an auto. In town 4th gear is the bomb for speed control...
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One reason I spent the $20 for the CAGS eliminator instead of using a $.20 resistor, is that, with the CAGS eliminator kit, it comes with a seal that is installed over the transmission's electrical connection to keep it clean, in case you want to reconnect the CAGS later on.
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Wayne O,
Regarding being stopped in gear and holding the clutch in, I came across this on another board:
I bounced it off my gearhead cronies and they all agreed. However, one said you'd have to be driving the car for MANY miles/years before it really comes into play.
Source: http://www.motorsforum.com/nissan/Ni...-CVT-9799-.htm
Regarding being stopped in gear and holding the clutch in, I came across this on another board:
"I used to hold the clutch as well while braked at a stoplight. Once I changed my clutch and got a clearer understanding of what's going on inside, I changed my habit. When you have the clutch depressed, you are engaging the throwout bearing, wearing it out. By putting your manual tranny in neutral and letting go of the clutch and holding only the brake, you are in the best position of least wear to your tranny.
It would suck to wear out your throw out bearing before the clutch has worn out because replacing the clutch or the throwout bearing involves
open heart surgery to your tranny. I had a 5 speed maxima and my thowout bearing got incredibly noisy. You could hear me engaging gears
from 100 feet away.
When the throwout bearing is worn, that gear whining noise as you engage gear goes up significantly. The car kept
working but I knew I was on borrowed time and I eventually bit the bullet and changed the clutch, replacing the throwout bearing as well."
It would suck to wear out your throw out bearing before the clutch has worn out because replacing the clutch or the throwout bearing involves
open heart surgery to your tranny. I had a 5 speed maxima and my thowout bearing got incredibly noisy. You could hear me engaging gears
from 100 feet away.
When the throwout bearing is worn, that gear whining noise as you engage gear goes up significantly. The car keptworking but I knew I was on borrowed time and I eventually bit the bullet and changed the clutch, replacing the throwout bearing as well."
Source: http://www.motorsforum.com/nissan/Ni...-CVT-9799-.htm
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(what happened to 4h)
I used to do that to, but when I asked that very question on the Forum about 2 yrs ago I was told that starting out in 2nd would wear out my transmission!
BTW, when I called GM to ask some questions about the 1 -4 light, they told me to just start out in 2nd.
So I'm not sure what the right answer is, but I'd appreciate hearing from the members that really know engines / transmissions.
I used to do that to, but when I asked that very question on the Forum about 2 yrs ago I was told that starting out in 2nd would wear out my transmission!
BTW, when I called GM to ask some questions about the 1 -4 light, they told me to just start out in 2nd.
So I'm not sure what the right answer is, but I'd appreciate hearing from the members that really know engines / transmissions.
Burning Brakes
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From: St. Louis MO
Everyone has their own style of driving but IMO self-inflicted skip-shifting isn't a good practice to follow. With 'normal' driving the skip-shift feature should hardly ever engage. That said I think its wise to have the skip-shift feature eliminated. It's an annoyance at best and a hazard at worst. These are some of my 'rules' for manual transmission use:
You upshift and down-shift sequentially through the gears...you never skip-shift.
5th and 6th gears are not used for in-town driving...they're overdrive gears used solely for extended, highway cruising.
You never place the transmission in neutral and coast to a stop.
When stopping for a red light don't put the transmission in neutral....keep the transmission in first gear.
You upshift and down-shift sequentially through the gears...you never skip-shift.
5th and 6th gears are not used for in-town driving...they're overdrive gears used solely for extended, highway cruising.
You never place the transmission in neutral and coast to a stop.
When stopping for a red light don't put the transmission in neutral....keep the transmission in first gear.
There is no mechanical reason not to skip shift if the engine has the torque for the application. Period.
I must strongly disagree about the overdrive gears. The 5th and 6th gears are not used solely for extended, highway cruising. There is simply NO design or mechanical reason to not use the overdrive gears whenever the engine has the torque for the application.
An alert and experienced driver can coast anytime and anywhere that the situation allows. It's very easy to rev-match and slip the tranny back into gear.
And finally, he choice of holding the clutch in or going to neutral at a light can be decided by the alert driver on a case by case basis; depending primarily on the duration of the light. Neutral at a stoplight is just fine when you know the light is an exceedingly long one.
Racer
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From: Martinez California
I know the instrument panel shows when to shift from 1-4 at low speed.
But does anyone do this on a regular basis? Will it hurt the transmission at all. Fuel economy goes up if I switch from 1-4, and find I dont really need second and third gear.
So what does everyone generally do?
thanks!
But does anyone do this on a regular basis? Will it hurt the transmission at all. Fuel economy goes up if I switch from 1-4, and find I dont really need second and third gear.
So what does everyone generally do?
thanks!
Personally, my driving habits rarely illuminate the light. My gas mileage is lower, as a result,, but I smile more.
