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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 10:57 PM
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I am thinking of investing in one of these this spring, any input? i am thinking the blinder27.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 11:37 PM
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I am personal friends with "Radar Roy" from radarbusters.com (this is not spam nor am I trying to sell anything!) I have discussed this issue with him several times and let me tell you radar jammers DO NOT work. Save your money and get a radar detector.

he sold his website a couple of years ago and they now sell jammers, but that is just sales.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 11:39 PM
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welp...you just saved me a few hundred bucks, buddy..appreciate it.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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There's "radar detectors" and "laser jammers." They are different animals.

In the USA radar detectors are legal (except for West Virginia I think) because they only listen to signals - but - laser jammers are illegal because they obstruct the signal, e.g. interfere with police business.




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There's "radar detectors" and "laser jammers." They are different animals.

In the USA radar detectors are legal (except for West Virginia I think) because they only listen to signals - but - laser jammers are illegal because they obstruct the signal, e.g. interfere with police business.



What's your point? Speeding is illegal, changing lanes with out using you turn signal is illegal, are you guilty of any of these things?
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 11:59 PM
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What's your point? Speeding is illegal, changing lanes with out using you turn signal is illegal, are you guilty of any of these things?
Seemed to me he was simply stating a fact.
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Originally Posted by FRANKENSTEIN4x42000
I am thinking of investing in one of these this spring, any input? i am thinking the blinder27.
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Blinders are laser jammers, not radar jammers. There are no effective radar jammers and the ones that do work are not something you can fit on a Corvette. Radar jammers will also get you federal prison time.

Laser jammers are quite effective and legal in most states.

I prefer the Laser Interceptors. Better units, smaller heads and easier to make a clean install.
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I never speed or change lanes without signaling.

You do belive me right?

I only drive my Vette to church on Sundays.
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Originally Posted by keyplyr
There's "radar detectors" and "laser jammers." They are different animals.

In the USA radar detectors are legal (except for West Virginia I think) because they only listen to signals - but - laser jammers are illegal because they obstruct the signal, e.g. interfere with police business.



Laser jammers are illegal in 8 states and DC. The fine in most of these states is much less than a speeding ticket. If used properly the police will never know they have been used.

Jam, Slow then kill the jammer. Let them get your new speed and all is well. The new jammers are so good they don't even give jam codes on the lidar guns.
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Laser jammers are illegal in 8 states and DC. The fine in most of these states is much less than a speeding ticket. If used properly the police will never know they have been used.

Jam, Slow then kill the jammer. Let them get your new speed and all is well. The new jammers are so good they don't even give jam codes on the lidar guns.
do you know which 8 states?
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Originally Posted by duramaxsky
do you know which 8 states?
Actually 9, my bad.

CA, CO, IL, MN, UT, OK, TN, VA, SC.

I drive in 3 of those states all the time and have never had an issue.

CA is an infraction and fine is less than $100. So is VA. Neither carries any points.

http://www.guysoflidar.com/usa-laser-jammer-laws.html
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Originally Posted by category4
Actually 9, my bad.

CA, CO, IL, MN, UT, OK, TN, VA, SC.

I drive in 3 of those states all the time and have never had an issue.

CA is an infraction and fine is less than $100. So is VA. Neither carries any points.

http://www.guysoflidar.com/usa-laser-jammer-laws.html
i work in VA..thanks for the info. I was looking at getting the qi45 with laser diffusers but as I understand, it is not effective due to the low ground of the vette's lower placement of the heads. is this true? anybody running laser diffusers on our vehicles?
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Originally Posted by tizz
i work in VA..thanks for the info. I was looking at getting the qi45 with laser diffusers but as I understand, it is not effective due to the low ground of the vette's lower placement of the heads. is this true? anybody running laser diffusers on our vehicles?
You don't want the qi45 in VA. It's detectable by Spectre. The ZR4 jammers (shifters) are worthless. They might actually have a chance on the front of the Vette but no chance on the rear.

Blinders and LI's are your only options for jammers with the LI being the best choice. For RD in VA, use only Beltronics or Escorts M3 based designs. They are Spectre immune, Redline, STi Driver, 9500ci and STi-R Plus are the only detectors to use in VA.
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Originally Posted by category4
Laser jammers are illegal in 8 states and DC. The fine in most of these states is much less than a speeding ticket. If used properly the police will never know they have been used.

Jam, Slow then kill the jammer. Let them get your new speed and all is well. The new jammers are so good they don't even give jam codes on the lidar guns.
I haven't read the laws pertaining to laser jammers in California, and the fine *may* in fact be only $100, but the CHP has made public announcements that any car found to be equipped with one (doesn't even need to be in use) will be impounded at owner's expense. They are that adamant against them. What happens after that I have no idea.

On the other hand, the two times I've been pulled over in California the radar detector was live and in clear view, but neither LEO said a thing.



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Originally Posted by keyplyr
I haven't read the laws pertaining to radar jammers in California, and the fine *may* in fact be only $100, but the CHP has made public announcements that any car found to be equipped with one (doesn't even need to be in use) will be impounded at owner's expense. They are that adamant against them. What happens after that I have no idea.

On the other hand, the two times I've been pulled over in California the radar detector was live and in clear view, but neither LEO said a thing.

Radar jammer are a whole different thing, laser jammers are what I was referring to.

Jamming: Electronic Speed-Measuring Devices

28150. (a) No vehicle shall be equipped with any device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.

(b) No person shall use, buy, possess, manufacture, sell, or otherwise distribute any device that is designed for jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.

(c) Except as provided in subdivision (d), a violation of subdivision (a) or (b) is an infraction.

(d) When a person possesses four or more devices in violation of subdivision (b), the person is guilty of a misdemeanor.

(e) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person who has a valid federal license for operating the devices described in this section may transport one or more of those devices if the license is carried in the vehicle transporting the device at all times when the device is being transported.

Added Sec. 1, Ch. 493, Stats. 1998. Effective January 1, 1999.

I don't see where they can impound, but that does not mean they won't try. LEO's rarely know the laws and often act like they think the law should read.
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Originally Posted by category4
Actually 9, my bad.

CA, CO, IL, MN, UT, OK, TN, VA, SC.

I drive in 3 of those states all the time and have never had an issue.

CA is an infraction and fine is less than $100. So is VA. Neither carries any points.

http://www.guysoflidar.com/usa-laser-jammer-laws.html
Good information. Thanks!

I run laser and radar detection in all my vehicles (Valentine 1). Almost without exception the alerts I get are from Infinity autos and SuVs which use the same technology for their adaptive cruise control.

The CHP in California does run roving lidar interception units, but they are very rare.

Local Police tend not to use Lidar and that is due to a combination of factors...inconvenience of use (they have to be stationary and aim each scan at a particular vehicle), and cost. Many municipalities just can't afford to buy them.

Given the low risk of problems in my area, I can't justify the cost of buying and installing a lidar jammer.
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[QUOTE=category4;1577267626]You don't want the qi45 in VA. It's detectable by Spectre. The ZR4 jammers (shifters) are worthless. They might actually have a chance on the front of the Vette but no chance on the rear.

Blinders and LI's are your only options for jammers with the LI being the best choice. For RD in VA, use only Beltronics or Escorts M3 based designs. They are Spectre immune, Redline, STi Driver, 9500ci and STi-R Plus are the only detectors to use in VA.[/QUOTE

thanks. i was close to buying a 9500xi today but decided not to. doesnt look like it is spectre immune..def ruling the qi45 out now that you mentioned that..thanks.
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Radar jammer are a whole different thing, laser jammers are what I was referring to.

Jamming: Electronic Speed-Measuring Devices

28150. (a) No vehicle shall be equipped with any device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.

(b) No person shall use, buy, possess, manufacture, sell, or otherwise distribute any device that is designed for jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.

(c) Except as provided in subdivision (d), a violation of subdivision (a) or (b) is an infraction.

(d) When a person possesses four or more devices in violation of subdivision (b), the person is guilty of a misdemeanor.

(e) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person who has a valid federal license for operating the devices described in this section may transport one or more of those devices if the license is carried in the vehicle transporting the device at all times when the device is being transported.

Added Sec. 1, Ch. 493, Stats. 1998. Effective January 1, 1999.

I don't see where they can impound, but that does not mean they won't try. LEO's rarely know the laws and often act like they think the law should read.
Sorry, typo. "laser jammers" is what I meant to type. The CHP will impound your car if they determine you have one installed. They don't even care if it was in use or not.



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I had a friend who had a buddy that was a cop.The cop had a laser gun. My friend had a laser jammer.......guess what it didn't work.
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Just use my detector and try to be careful. I think they are illegal in VA. and one other place. Could be DC. (detectors that is)
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