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Advantage is that cold air is more dense and will add aditional power. As far as installation, could be a simple bolt on or may require some cutting, just depends on which one you get.
Advantage is that cold air is more dense and will add aditional power. As far as installation, could be a simple bolt on or may require some cutting, just depends on which one you get.
Some of the really good CAIs will give you some power at the top of the curve, but there's a price to be paid. You can't move more air without letting in more dirt.
When guys do an oil analysis, and it shows high silicon (the marker for dirt injestion) and they ask why, a few questions usually reveal that they've installed a K&N or similar air filter.
Unless you are adding some serious engine modifications, a CAI isn't going to make enough difference over the excellent Donaldson filters GM uses now.
Some of the really good CAIs will give you some power at the top of the curve, but there's a price to be paid. You can't move more air without letting in more dirt.
When guys do an oil analysis, and it shows high silicon (the marker for dirt injestion) and they ask why, a few questions usually reveal that they've installed a K&N or similar air filter.
Unless you are adding some serious engine modifications, a CAI isn't going to make enough difference over the excellent Donaldson filters GM uses now.
Save your money. Some advantages yes but more disadvantages I feel.
Please use the Search Function, there are at TON of threads with a lot of debate about this.
Unless you have major mods added (supercharger, monster cam etc) they are not worth the money.
Sure you might pick up 10hp at the flywheel, but is that worth 400-500 bucks to ya? Only you can answer that. Of course the vendors of these products swear by them since they are selling them.
To get any real decent increase you need a tune anyway, and even then more of the power comes from the tune than the CAI IMO.
On the LS1/LS2/LS6 cars, they were worth it...now with the improved design of the LS 3, 7, and 9 , they don't provide enough beneft to justify the cost IMO.
I personally dont think the price paid vs advantage is worth it....you may feel a slight bit more throttle response in a 2 but to me unless your doing other mods its a waste of money....IMHO
I personally dont think the price paid vs advantage is worth it....you may feel a slight bit more throttle response in a 2 but to me unless your doing other mods its a waste of money....IMHO
I think I did feel a 'slight' improvement in throttle response, but there's another consideration: OEM replacement filters are $30+, aftermarket air filters go for about $50 to replace and mine used 2.
My 'snorkle' K&N is permanent so there's something to be said about not shelling out the money on a regular basis for replacement OEM air filters. Whether it is cost effective will depend on your miles, and how much crud is in your air. Additionally, the factory filter housing on my 06 was a POS (I understand that's been remedied on later years) - and if you hunt around you can find deals of CAIs - I paid about $280 for my K&N
Some of the really good CAIs will give you some power at the top of the curve, but there's a price to be paid. You can't move more air without letting in more dirt.
When guys do an oil analysis, and it shows high silicon (the marker for dirt injestion) and they ask why, a few questions usually reveal that they've installed a K&N or similar air filter.
Unless you are adding some serious engine modifications, a CAI isn't going to make enough difference over the excellent Donaldson filters GM uses now.
IMO a bottom-feeding CAI is an essential component of one's overall performance modifications but as a stand-alone mod the benefits are negligible at best. Potential drawbacks include an increased potential for ingesting water (and possible engine hydro-lock) and even a loss of warranty coverage. If a CAI is a first step in a much more comprehensive performance modification plan (and you understand the pros and cons) go for it. If you do I highly recommend the Lingenfelter high-flow intake. As mentioned, do a search and read the many threads on the subject before making a decision.
I posted this elsewhere on the forum regarding various RAM type CAIs on the market. I'll repeat it here for the sake of stiring the pot ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cargasm *
I have a license plate plugging the center of the grill. Seems this would spoil the "ram" effect. ... right?
Question:*
1) how much RAM pressure are you going to see at street-legal speeds ?
(answer: none)
2) how 'cold' is the air 4" off a summer-time street that you can fry an egg on?
(answer: Not very)
By all means - get a CAI to let your baby breathe, then consider investing in a low restriction MAS, then get long-tube headders, then spend $$ on a new exhaust system ... but unless your racing - you won't see the gains in a "RAM" system. You will, however, see gains at WOT and 150+ MPH ... as well as flashing blue lights *
Buy a RAM system if this turns your ego on - but that's all it will do over a 'regular CAI' unless you're at speed - and then you WILL see a difference (as the VaraRam website indicates)
Sorry - don't want to be a drag , there is a positive effect - and you will see it - just a few seconds before you see red and blue lights in your rear view mirror. I have a degree in aero engineering (U of W 1980) - happy to send the equations, but at regular highway speeds my guess is you won't see much benefit over a regular CAI. If you want boost - buy a turbo or a $upercharger.
That said - I don't own one, I DO have a CAI ... so anyone who's had a regular CAI and gone the RAM route - please call the BS flag on me ...
... No one ever did
Last edited by SilvrVette; May 12, 2011 at 12:11 AM.
Reason: Added wit and wizdum
thanks for posting this. I'm about to upgrade to a GS and was curious about how everyone feels about CAI's. The numbers that Vararam advertise are compelling. However, I didn't think about how fast you have to go to see those numbers. There are some posts that show improvements on 1/4 mile times, but that won't be the majority of my drive time. Good info.