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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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My father has a silver C6. Apparently the front bumper was replaced, prior to him buying the car. Now the bumper has chips in it, and there is red paint underneath, indicating that a used red bumper was used and painted over. The paint appears to be flaking off as though it is not adhering to the underlying red paint. He talked to 2 auto body shops, who informed him that you cannot paint over Corvette paint, and this is why the silver is chipping. They stated that the only way to make the new paint adhere, was to sand the entire piece down to the fiberglass, reprime and paint.......Is there something special with the Corvette paint or a special process for painting Corvettes?

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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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that's pretty much any of them. you can't paint over...
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Ok - But cars get painted over daily. Sand the first coat and repaint. Are the Corvettes different?
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The bumper is not fiberglass. If this were my car I would order a new GM bumper cover and front emblem. I would have it painted off the car a good shop can match the color and paint texture. Install it on the car and your done. The old bumper cover will require a lot of time to remove the old paint so what it is going to cost in labor I would just go with a new bumper cover.
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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The bumper is not fiberglass. If this were my car I would order a new GM bumper cover and front emblem. I would have it painted off the car a good shop can match the color and paint texture. Install it on the car and your done. The old bumper cover will require a lot of time to remove the old paint so what it is going to cost in labor I would just go with a new bumper cover.
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 02:18 PM
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What's a reasonable price to pay to paint a front bumper(off car) in VY tintcoat?And who would do a better job,chevy dealer or body shop?
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You CAN paint over existing paint. I do it all the time with confidence, and most all body shops do too. You wouldn't want to paint over a panel that has had multiple paint jobs already, but if the existing paint still shows good adhesion with minor flaws, then when prepped correctly, it will last as long as a brand new paint job on raw panels. Also, the vette plant does not use any type of "special" paint. The last time I heard, the current paint being used is dupont, which is the same paint that I use, and can be purchased at your local auto body supply shop. Also, the vette plant will sometimes use another supplier such as PPG. It just depends on once their contract is up, then will the bid from the next guy be lower. Basically, all base coat clear coat manufacturers are using pretty much the same thing, and it's possible to mix and match paints and reducers from different companies. It's not wise to do this from a warranty perspective, but as a custom painter, I know what I can get away with because I've done quite a bit of experimenting.....sometimes out of necessity lol.....and yeah, I know, too much information haha
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The paint the factory uses is the same paint that GM uses on its other vehicles. There is nothing special about it. It appears that the previous paint job was not done properly. There are methods that must be used to prepare SMC for painting. If it is done properly there will not be a problem. Also there is no fiberglass in this car.
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During our buyers tour, we were told that a bumper with a paint flaw can be repainted up to two more times at the factory to get it right, any more than two additional and they junk it.
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Airbrush Inc is 100% right- there is absolutely no reason a GOOD painter (read: find someone who knows what their doing, not the clowns who gave you your initial info) can't prep the existing bumper and repaint it.

One problem you will run into is matching the silver. Very, very difficult to "panel paint" silver- it usually requires blending onto the fenders and possibly even the hood to get a good match. Its possible thats already been done, but without mic'ing the paint, you won't know.
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I have a machine silver 2007 Coupe. Over the past two years I have had the front bumper refinished with no issues....last week I had the hood repainted due to a nasty chip. Perfect match, perfect paint job at Scott's Auto Body, Ranson WV. Reasonable prices on both jobs.
I think you just have to find a modern paint shop that utilizes up to date technology in matching the paint. When I say "perfect" I mean a perfect match!
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ranger5
I have a machine silver 2007 Coupe. Over the past two years I have had the front bumper refinished with no issues....last week I had the hood repainted due to a nasty chip. Perfect match, perfect paint job at Scott's Auto Body, Ranson WV. Reasonable prices on both jobs.
I think you just have to find a modern paint shop that utilizes up to date technology in matching the paint. When I say "perfect" I mean a perfect match!
That being said,does anyone know a modern paint shop in WNY area.I need to get a bumper painted in VY(off car)?
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wnyoutlaw
My father has a silver C6. Apparently the front bumper was replaced, prior to him buying the car. Now the bumper has chips in it, and there is red paint underneath, indicating that a used red bumper was used and painted over. The paint appears to be flaking off as though it is not adhering to the underlying red paint. He talked to 2 auto body shops, who informed him that you cannot paint over Corvette paint, and this is why the silver is chipping. They stated that the only way to make the new paint adhere, was to sand the entire piece down to the fiberglass, reprime and paint.......Is there something special with the Corvette paint or a special process for painting Corvettes?

Thanks.
The old rubber bumper needs to be stripped of all the paint. This will give the new paint something to adhere too, also it needs flex agent mixed in the new paint if not it will do the same thing again.Most paint shops are lazy and don't put flex agent in because you have to clean out the gun this takes time to do. And the left over paint will need to be thrown out.
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Originally Posted by Airbrush Inc
You CAN paint over existing paint. I do it all the time with confidence, and most all body shops do too. You wouldn't want to paint over a panel that has had multiple paint jobs already, but if the existing paint still shows good adhesion with minor flaws, then when prepped correctly, it will last as long as a brand new paint job on raw panels. Also, the vette plant does not use any type of "special" paint. The last time I heard, the current paint being used is dupont, which is the same paint that I use, and can be purchased at your local auto body supply shop. Also, the vette plant will sometimes use another supplier such as PPG. It just depends on once their contract is up, then will the bid from the next guy be lower. Basically, all base coat clear coat manufacturers are using pretty much the same thing, and it's possible to mix and match paints and reducers from different companies. It's not wise to do this from a warranty perspective, but as a custom painter, I know what I can get away with because I've done quite a bit of experimenting.....sometimes out of necessity lol.....and yeah, I know, too much information haha
The bumpers are painted off site by a vendor and flex agent is used. Retired GM employee.
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That being said,does anyone know a modern paint shop in WNY area.I need to get a bumper painted in VY(off car)?
if you're talking near Buffalo, I'd check w. the local Corvette clubs, and hot rod clubs. you may also want to check with the local branch of NCRS, too.
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Awesome thread,

Can anyone help me.

A corvette that had its bumper cover and hood replaced do to the car rollling when in the persons garage.

The car is for sale at a dealership. I asked if anything else had been replaced, they said the paint matches perfectly but because the vette is fiberglass a paint meter doesn't work.


Is this true that you can't use paint meters on corvettes?
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Awesome thread,

Can anyone help me.

A corvette that had its bumper cover and hood replaced do to the car rollling when in the persons garage.

The car is for sale at a dealership. I asked if anything else had been replaced, they said the paint matches perfectly but because the vette is fiberglass a paint meter doesn't work.


Is this true that you can't use paint meters on corvettes?
If paint meters use magnets to measure paint thickness, then no, it would not work on plastic Corvette body panels.
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The bumper is not fiberglass. If this were my car I would order a new GM bumper cover and front emblem. I would have it painted off the car a good shop can match the color and paint texture. Install it on the car and your done. The old bumper cover will require a lot of time to remove the old paint so what it is going to cost in labor I would just go with a new bumper cover.
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The "new" facia was not prepped correctly. It should be painted as any other panel with the addtional flex agent added. I've done a hundred of them.
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
Also there is no fiberglass in this car.
Ther is a LOT of fiberglass (chopped strand mat) on this car.
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