Listen.....

I know the difference. I'm not trying to "one up you" on who has the most knowledge of GM's vehicle resale program. So, let's stop this head butting BS.

What I'm saying is, MANY TIMES cars are labeled, by dealers, as "GM Executive" and many of those are regular FLEET VEHICLES (GM's "daily" fleet has diminished considerable the last several years). This is much like what one member had written previously.....anybody from the night watchman and up, can drive the vehicle, for transportation on company business. Dealers generally don't know the difference between one or the other unless they have a DIRECT source with GM's Fleet Control (very doubtful). If the vehicle is truly an "Executive" vehicle it was someone way up on the food chart [(probably not more than 20 people).....as a side note, I can tell an interesting story about a previous Corvette Chief Engineer] And, as previously mentioned, the word "Executive" is an effective selling tool. so dealers use it.....many times erroneously.

Now yes, the vehicles periodically are sent to auctions (this was my job, as well as the procurement of said vehicles), but these vehicles are offered to employees, for a period of time, BEFORE being sent to auction. Generally, good, rare, special vehicles are "sucked up" by the employees because of additional monetary incentives given to the employee by GM (vehicles are generally very well maintained and defects are to a minimum. Employees who purchase these vehicles are permitted to review the trailing paperwork prior to purchase....kind of like an in house Carfax....but more military oriented). The additional incentives are determined by an established posted criteria. The remaining vehicles are then sent to auction. Because vehicle needs change, because vehicles begin to fit into brackets of the incentive packages, because vehicles no longer fit into a "need" requirement...they are then sent to auction and thus, vehicle turnover is several times a year.

Now on the plating issue.......

Many vehicles are plated in the state of use and thus, are titled vehicles. But many are also operated on Manufacturer or Dealer plates, which is dependent of the respective state law. These vehicles are sold as new vehicles because they were operated on an MSO and NOT TITLED (my last purchase, in 2009, was this)...yielding an "A" title.

Bottom line.....

You may or may not have a REAL executive vehicle. But it really doesn't matter.

You may or may not have a purchase on a previous titled car. It matters slightly, only as far as TOTAL value.

There is a BIG difference between a GM CORPORATE owned and a Dealer OWNED vehicle. YOU make the judgment call.

I'm done with this topic It's way out of context from the OP's request.

 

Mine was owned solely by the owner of several gm dealerships from a nearby state. the dealership I purchased it from made a big deal about this.

although it was maintained well, what I found was just as much wear as any other used car

 

Took my Avalanche in to the Chevy dealer to have some thing else fixed. When I picked up my truck the service advisor told me: "Oh we also performed the winshield washer fluid heater recall". Well they couldn't replace it at that time so I had to wait tilll a Suburban came in where the owner wanted to have that recall performened. I then had them install that unit into my car. Crazy, eh? How is cutting out an option a fix?

 

I bought a 8 month old 2009 Cadillac SRX in April 2009 for my wife that was a GM exec driven vehicle. It had 18K miles put on it in 8 months. Dealer certified it. I paid $34K for an 8 month old SRX that listed for $49K and I wound up with more warranty than someone buying new.

The car has been flawless. What's interesting is the window sticker shows the Dealer To Whom Delivered as General Motors in Detroit.


These are usually very well cared for vehicles, so if it's a TRUE GM Executive vehicle it will not have been delivered to a local dealer but GM itself as mine was.

Tom

 

As retired test driver from GM Milford. I can tell you this. If it was a fleet car,it had not one soft mile. Think of it as a rental vehicle,how would you drive it? Unless it was with one person,forget about it.

 

GM execs have dependent children with drivers licenses living in their household, you make the call and draw your own conclusions.........................

Regards,

GSRANDY

 

I bought a 1996 Corvette that was a pilot line car in 1996. I wanted a Yellow Vette and found this car through my local Chevy dealer. The car was at a GM only auction and it had 4K miles on it. List price was $42K and I got it for $29K. It was a great car and never gave me any trouble.

 

Don't forget that plenty of the people you listed have 16 year old kids of their own. It's not the dealership owner, it's his 16 year old spoiled kid that beats the crap out of all of the cars that daddy brings home because neither one cares about the cars. They know they will only have them for a short time and they will soon be replaced with another shiny new one.

Look at these cars as used vehicles, just like any other used vehicles. You will never know how any used car has been treated. You get a discount and take your chances.

 

What about the cars that GM lets Car and Driver, Motortrend and Auto Week stretch their legs on a race track?

Are these classified as Executive Cars or are they excluded from resale?

I always wondered about those cars and I'm not talking about the pre-production models.

 

And there are plenty that are not driven by their 16 year old sons and daughters, we can play this game to ad nauseum.

Again, see post #31, BEST VEHICLE EVER.

 

Wow, I'd take that deal today if I could get it.

 

I don't think anybody thought they were getting a new car, just a new car warranty starting at day 1.

What would I take worse case scenario, Vehicle owned by GM Exec with 6 year old kids, complete warranty and I am considered 1st owner.

Vehicle owned by some Joe Blow with 16 year old kids, partial warranty and I am third owner.

Sounds like easy math to me, see post #31, best vehicle ever.

 

Sounds like all of the negative opinions in this thread are all hypothetical. GM Execs arent the only ones with 16 year old kids, everybody else has them too. If thats the case why bothering to buy any used car?

The important things to remember are the facts. Its a used car. It comes with a great price. It also comes with a great warranty. It should have a great maintenance history. Thats all you need to know to make a well informed decision on whether to buy or not.

 

You were the one implying that the 'executive owned car' was going to be driven by a more responsible owner or manager and that they would not be driving like 16 year olds. This was your hypothetical assumption based on no actual facts, so you were already playing the game.

The reality is it is a used car. No more or less magical than any other used car. If you convince yourself otherwise, you are simply being intellectually dishonest.

As long as you are getting enough discount to justify the previous unknown use then go for it.

 

a we bit sensitive are we? First off, not head butting with you. As I'm sure you realize my background is from the dealer side. My comments just mirrored what you said in your last post. Plus I've never seen a real "exec" car. Wouldn't have a clue who drove the factory care we purchased and couldn't care less for that matter. As a dealer they are just another used car...

 

Whatever ED, 16 year olds trashed both our scenario cars, but, my used car I am original owner, your used car your 2nd owner. Enjoy.

 

I am glad you are happy with your car. I just hope you and anyone else considering a similar thing (namely the OP) gets enough of a discount to justify the purchase and doesn't get suckered into believing that the car was only driven by the CEO of GM.

You may be the first one on the title, but the car still led the secret life of a rental car before you bought it.

 

Several years ago, I bought an 'exec driven' Tahoe with 1000 miles on it at 28% off list. It spent a good part if its life towing a 3500 pound horse trailer. I finally sold it at 167000 miles. The only real problem I had with it was the distributor at about 130k. I'd do it again if the right car came along.

 

Ed could you elaborate how my ESCALADE (they actually are not considered cars) which was driven by a GM Central Regional Rep was driven like a rental? Thanks in advance.

 

Sure thing. Not just for you, but the OP also. You have no idea who actually drove the Escalade (here they are titled and registered as station wagons) before you got it. It may have been given to a GM central regional rep and if it was he may have driven it himself. He also may have let his wife drive it, or he may have let his kids have fun with it.

No one will ever know for sure. The only thing known with certainty is that whoever actually got the vehicle knew from even before the first moment that they parked their butt in the drivers seat that they would not be keeping this car for long. For them it was a rental (paid for as a perk that came with the job). Drive it around, have their fun with it and give it back and pick up another new one. There is no reason for them to have any long term vested interested in this vehicle. No more so than any other rental car.