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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 01:19 AM
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Another variable to keep in mind is the viscosity of the fluid in the shocks, colder temps = thicker , higher temps = thinner.
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I am following this post since I did the exact same swap of my factory Z51 shocks for factory base shocks in my 2005 with Z51 package. I also did the before and after measurements with no change in weight of the car (no gas added or used). Also drove the car for about 50 miles and rechecked a week later. Same measurements. I don't see how the two shocks are so different. I really didn't notice much if any difference in ride quality. I understand how shocks work to dampen but how would it change the suspension to lower or raise the car? The spring is what settles at a specified height, not the shock. The shock only changes the amount of pressure up and down. I don't think (my personal opinion) the amount of pressure within the shock is great enough to raise a 3,000 lb car? If so, why do we need springs? Maybe some suspension experts will chime in here to explain this theory? I weigh 190 lbs and i can push down a shock without using all my weight and hold it there. So how can this shock change a car's height?
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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I am following this post since I did the exact same swap of my factory Z51 shocks for factory base shocks in my 2005 with Z51 package. I also did the before and after measurements with no change in weight of the car (no gas added or used). Also drove the car for about 50 miles and rechecked a week later. Same measurements. I don't see how the two shocks are so different. I really didn't notice much if any difference in ride quality. I understand how shocks work to dampen but how would it change the suspension to lower or raise the car? The spring is what settles at a specified height, not the shock. The shock only changes the amount of pressure up and down. I don't think (my personal opinion) the amount of pressure within the shock is great enough to raise a 3,000 lb car? If so, why do we need springs? Maybe some suspension experts will chime in here to explain this theory? I weigh 190 lbs and i can push down a shock without using all my weight and hold it there. So how can this shock change a car's height?
Your points are valid, and many of us are scratching our heads over why non-Z51 shocks lower the car. In your case, it seems they didn't. But I was very careful with my measurements, repeated them several times, and the car did get loweer by 5/16" in front and 4/16" in back. If you do a search for threads on FSD shocks, several others have reported getting lower also.

The best guess is that the gas pressure in the shocks supplies some additional upward force that slightly raises the car. But that's just a guess.

It's not easy to exactly measure the ride height, I put tape on the fenders above the wheel wells and mark a spot. Then use a long level/ruler with a bubble in it, so I can be sure the ruler is exactly perpendicular to the floor. And find a place with a really flat surface, always park the car in exact same location for measurements.

But still
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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That's close to the same method of measuring I did. Mine was dead on the same at all 4 wheel opening areas. I also did shocks on my C2 about 1 year ago. Replaced rear Bilstein Sports with QA-1 and front with KYB GR-2. Also no change at all 4 wheel openings. So that's why I am so curious about your situation. And wonder why the change. There has to be an explanation and I am sure someone will tell us!
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I replaced the stock shocks on my base '09 with Koni FSD. The Koni's compress more easily than the stock, my guess is that is the difference you are seeing. Lift up on the fender with your hand and note the difference in height with a little pressure.
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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I replaced the stock shocks on my base '09 with Koni FSD. The Koni's compress more easily than the stock, my guess is that is the difference you are seeing. Lift up on the fender with your hand and note the difference in height with a little pressure.
How much "stiffer" is your ride with the FSD's, compared to the original base shocks?
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Definitely stiffer but not uncomfortable unless the roads you drive are quite rough. I put Z51 bars on at the same time as the shocks and like the handling better.
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MJC611
Definitely stiffer but not uncomfortable unless the roads you drive are quite rough. I put Z51 bars on at the same time as the shocks and like the handling better.
Do you mean firmer or harsher? I thought the FSD's would firm up the ride and give more control.
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Originally Posted by TLTONEY
Do you mean firmer or harsher? I thought the FSD's would firm up the ride and give more control.
Maybe on a base-suspension car it will do the above. But on my Z51 suspension, it didn't make any appreciable or even noticeable difference in any criteria.
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Originally Posted by TLTONEY
Do you mean firmer or harsher? I thought the FSD's would firm up the ride and give more control.
I believe firm would be a more accurate word than stiff or harsh but then one persons firm might be another persons harsh.
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