which brakes are better? base C6 or Brembo off Camaro SS?
12-23-2011, 09:22 AM
#21
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I really appreciate all your input on this forum,but with all due respect you are mistaken in this case.
Stolen from How Things Work.....
Bigger isn't necessarily better when it comes to all things automotive. But when talking about brakes, size generally does matter.
That's because braking performance depends in large part upon how much surface area the brake pads have to bite into. Larger pads and larger brake discs make for shorter stopping distances.
60-0 stopping distances:
ZR1 ~96 ft
Z06 ~106 ft
standard C6 ~114 ft
Stolen from How Things Work.....
Bigger isn't necessarily better when it comes to all things automotive. But when talking about brakes, size generally does matter.
That's because braking performance depends in large part upon how much surface area the brake pads have to bite into. Larger pads and larger brake discs make for shorter stopping distances.
60-0 stopping distances:
ZR1 ~96 ft
Z06 ~106 ft
standard C6 ~114 ft
12-23-2011, 09:48 AM
#22
I really appreciate all your input on this forum,but with all due respect you are mistaken in this case.
Stolen from How Things Work.....
Bigger isn't necessarily better when it comes to all things automotive. But when talking about brakes, size generally does matter.
That's because braking performance depends in large part upon how much surface area the brake pads have to bite into. Larger pads and larger brake discs make for shorter stopping distances.
60-0 stopping distances:
ZR1 ~96 ft
Z06 ~106 ft
standard C6 ~114 ft
Stolen from How Things Work.....
Bigger isn't necessarily better when it comes to all things automotive. But when talking about brakes, size generally does matter.
That's because braking performance depends in large part upon how much surface area the brake pads have to bite into. Larger pads and larger brake discs make for shorter stopping distances.
60-0 stopping distances:
ZR1 ~96 ft
Z06 ~106 ft
standard C6 ~114 ft
Last edited by R&L's C6; 12-23-2011 at 10:01 AM.
12-23-2011, 11:50 AM
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Data for when the argument turns to weight being a factor in different C6 models' braking ability. All figures are for curb weight.
2010 Corvette Coupe
3208 lbs.
2010 Corvette Convertible
3221 lbs.
2010 Corvette Grand Sport Coupe
3311 lbs.
2010 Corvette Grand Sport Convertible
3289 lbs.
2010 Corvette Z06
3175 lbs.
2010 Corvette ZR1
3333 lbs.
2010 Corvette Coupe
3208 lbs.
2010 Corvette Convertible
3221 lbs.
2010 Corvette Grand Sport Coupe
3311 lbs.
2010 Corvette Grand Sport Convertible
3289 lbs.
2010 Corvette Z06
3175 lbs.
2010 Corvette ZR1
3333 lbs.
12-23-2011, 02:51 PM
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As my friction engineer will tell me when I ask about different braking systems.
"If you want to stop better, buy a better tire." All braking systems are capable of locking the rotors. You can have the best caliper and rotor made but if you are using the cheapest tire you will not stop as well as the system was designed for. Before spending money on a new braking system try buying a better tire.
"If you want to stop better, buy a better tire." All braking systems are capable of locking the rotors. You can have the best caliper and rotor made but if you are using the cheapest tire you will not stop as well as the system was designed for. Before spending money on a new braking system try buying a better tire.
12-23-2011, 03:06 PM
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As my friction engineer will tell me when I ask about different braking systems.
"If you want to stop better, buy a better tire." All braking systems are capable of locking the rotors. You can have the best caliper and rotor made but if you are using the cheapest tire you will not stop as well as the system was designed for. Before spending money on a new braking system try buying a better tire.
"If you want to stop better, buy a better tire." All braking systems are capable of locking the rotors. You can have the best caliper and rotor made but if you are using the cheapest tire you will not stop as well as the system was designed for. Before spending money on a new braking system try buying a better tire.
BTW - if you've ever had your brakes fade on you - let me tell - it will scare the crap out of you !
12-24-2011, 11:02 PM
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I was just wondering because the Camaro is a cheaper car and I figured the base Vette would have at least the same quality as the inferior Camaro. Both Chevy and Dodge love to throw around the Brembo name but you dont hear it on their Vette.
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12-25-2011, 08:11 PM
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maybe because the vette brakes are good enough to do the job. for most people, under most circumstances. but not all.
12-26-2011, 09:25 AM
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Data for when the argument turns to weight being a factor in different C6 models' braking ability. All figures are for curb weight.
2010 Corvette Coupe
3208 lbs.
2010 Corvette Convertible
3221 lbs.
2010 Corvette Grand Sport Coupe
3311 lbs.
2010 Corvette Grand Sport Convertible
3289 lbs.
2010 Corvette Z06
3175 lbs.
2010 Corvette ZR1
3333 lbs.
2010 Corvette Coupe
3208 lbs.
2010 Corvette Convertible
3221 lbs.
2010 Corvette Grand Sport Coupe
3311 lbs.
2010 Corvette Grand Sport Convertible
3289 lbs.
2010 Corvette Z06
3175 lbs.
2010 Corvette ZR1
3333 lbs.
12-26-2011, 09:27 AM
#30
Burning Brakes
I got the gs just because of this issue..I had a g35 with brembo's.I loved the brakes..The camaro had nicer brakes than the 40+ thousand vette with those little brakes. They are cheap rakes on the camaro but look better.
12-26-2011, 09:46 AM
#31
Safety Car
The Brembo's on the camaro are most certainly better then the base C6/c5 brakes. And in my oppinion better then the PBR calipers on the Z/GS. I as well have been boggled by the fact that GM didnt upgrade the brakes on the base C6 when they outfitted the Camaro with those things. Its kind of a slap in the face to corvette owners in my eyes. People by the corvette over the camaro because its a superior car. You think that would include the brakes as well. The answer to this question, GM is cheap and didnt want to spend the money to make the brembo's fit the corvette as the C6 platform is (hopefully) in its last years and as far as investment into the platform is concerned it just isnt worth it. Personally I think the base car should have the same brakes as the Z, there not that good anyways and are problematic under regular hard use as well. The grand sport only got them because that entire car was just a robbing of the current parts bin, nothing new was developed for it that I know of other then the front fenders being a bit different. You can guarantee you will see Brembo's on the C7 though. Those crappy PBR's are history.
Hopefully the brembo's we see on the C7 dont dissapoint. These cars NEED better brakes from the factory.
Hopefully the brembo's we see on the C7 dont dissapoint. These cars NEED better brakes from the factory.
12-26-2011, 10:44 AM
#32
Burning Brakes
The zr1 has very nice brakes. They look like my friends brembos on the gtr just with corvette on them. I'm not crazy about the ones on my gs they look like cheap cast metal. The zr1 has smoother finish and better paint job.
12-27-2011, 02:58 AM
#34
Drifting
The PBR's are used by countless C5/C5Z/C6 guys on the track, including me logging on 30+ track days on my C6 Z51, before moving to the C6Z with not a hint of fade with race pads (no locking of brakes needed either).
I would agree with another member who said sometimes the factory installed Brembos aren't up to par with the aftermarket units. Having said this, it it obvious the GM engineers, and some of us think the PBR's are more than capable with performance.
It does bum me out, nonetheless, the Camaro gets better "name" calipers than the vettes.
I would agree with another member who said sometimes the factory installed Brembos aren't up to par with the aftermarket units. Having said this, it it obvious the GM engineers, and some of us think the PBR's are more than capable with performance.
It does bum me out, nonetheless, the Camaro gets better "name" calipers than the vettes.
12-27-2011, 06:32 AM
#35
The PBR's are used by countless C5/C5Z/C6 guys on the track, including me logging on 30+ track days on my C6 Z51, before moving to the C6Z with not a hint of fade with race pads (no locking of brakes needed either).
I would agree with another member who said sometimes the factory installed Brembos aren't up to par with the aftermarket units. Having said this, it it obvious the GM engineers, and some of us think the PBR's are more than capable with performance.
It does bum me out, nonetheless, the Camaro gets better "name" calipers than the vette.
I would agree with another member who said sometimes the factory installed Brembos aren't up to par with the aftermarket units. Having said this, it it obvious the GM engineers, and some of us think the PBR's are more than capable with performance.
It does bum me out, nonetheless, the Camaro gets better "name" calipers than the vette.
12-27-2011, 10:45 AM
#36
I really appreciate all your input on this forum,but with all due respect you are mistaken in this case.
Stolen from How Things Work.....
Bigger isn't necessarily better when it comes to all things automotive. But when talking about brakes, size generally does matter.
That's because braking performance depends in large part upon how much surface area the brake pads have to bite into. Larger pads and larger brake discs make for shorter stopping distances. 60-0 stopping distances:
ZR1 ~96 ft
Z06 ~106 ft
standard C6 ~114 ft
Stolen from How Things Work.....
Bigger isn't necessarily better when it comes to all things automotive. But when talking about brakes, size generally does matter.
That's because braking performance depends in large part upon how much surface area the brake pads have to bite into. Larger pads and larger brake discs make for shorter stopping distances. 60-0 stopping distances:
ZR1 ~96 ft
Z06 ~106 ft
standard C6 ~114 ft
The "base" C6 has a smaller footprint d/t the smaller tire width compared to the Z06 and the ZR1.
Vehicle footprint and weight is a much greater factor than the caliper would be.
Not as easy as looking up a couple of figures on the web
Last edited by SloChicken; 12-27-2011 at 10:48 AM.
12-27-2011, 07:48 PM
#37
Race Director
They have Brembo upgrade kits for the Camaro SS that cost around $5k or so, that is the true Brembo. GM is using the name to sell kind of what GM does with Bose and its stereos.
12-27-2011, 08:09 PM
#38
Drifting
I guess if we can make the argument about the factory Brembos, then the same can be said with factory Bose.
12-27-2011, 08:50 PM
#39
Tolero Apto Victum
12-27-2011, 08:53 PM
#40
Tolero Apto Victum
