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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Nice Ride
Does this change effect every 2012 Automatic Trans or only the manuel or when the auto trans is in manuel shift mode???????
Trans has to be in manuel shift mode for it to work thats what the article says. Its for the A6 trans 2012 don't know if it can be reflashed to prior year models. No hardware changes just software.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Nice Ride
Does this change effect every 2012 Automatic Trans or only the manuel or when the auto trans is in manuel shift mode???????
CHUCK COW has a tune for the prior year automatics that people seem to rave about.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Nice Ride
Does this change effect every 2012 Automatic Trans or only the manuel or when the auto trans is in manuel shift mode???????
The original post explicitly refers to improvement to the automatic transmission when used in manual-shifting mode. As does the article he's posting about.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 08crm
CHUCK COW has a tune for the prior year automatics that people seem to rave about.
I will have one soon as I ordered his Christmas special
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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Daym.... I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the 3rd from the right is my "WIFE" ... Thanks for the compliment
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nice Ride
Does this change effect every 2012 Automatic Trans or only the manuel or when the auto trans is in manuel shift mode???????
Auto only. Manuel, Pedro or Jose shift mode doesn't matter.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by haljensen
Auto only. Manuel, Pedro or Jose shift mode doesn't matter.
2012 A6 auto ONLY
ONLY when in "S" mode using the paddle shifters which GM calls the tap system (apparently on the Camaro this mode is called Manual)
Upshifting: 1-2, 2-3, 3-4
1-2 65% improvement in shift response time (GM claims it matches a dual clutch time)
2-3 50% improvment
3-4 can't recall the number, if listed....article is 5 pages long...more crap about an auto tranny then I will ever want to know

Article indicates no intention of earlier model reflashing, which is par as GM didn't allow for 06 and 07 A6's to be reflashed with the 08 tranny retune.

The info was released to the public as part of a presentation on the new Camaro LZ1 (the 580 hp version if I have the id name wrong). When questioned further the engineers admitted that the system already was released on the 2012 Corvette but just not advertised--neither to the public nor to dealers.

I've sent off a pm to a major dealer asking why the GM silence on the issue as they were very upfront about the improvement in shifting times going from 07 to 08...lets see if I get an answer.....

Nay Sayers- Don't like it, doubt it, question it...fine... as long as you have gotten your butt out of your chair, gone to the store, bought the mag and read the article...

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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 09:58 PM
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It would appear Chevrolet/GM is getting pretty good about making changes but not announcing the changes. As I recall on the GS Black Wheels they were supposed to come with some Red Letters to make up for the No Red Stripe. But the Red Lettering did not pass the durability test so Chevrolet/GM just left the Red Lettering off yet said nothing about the change. We only learned of this when someone inquired about the lack of the Red Lettering.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Z06LUST
Vette magazine
March 2012 issue
extensive article on 2012 upgrade to A6 when manual shifting 1-2, 2-3, 3-4
READ IT

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I did!
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by niteriderc5
sucks then that we picked up an 11 gs auto and not the 12 - more upgrades than I thought
Yep, you'll really notice that 50 millisecond delay when paddle shifting!
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by vetdude
Yep, you'll really notice that 50 millisecond delay when paddle shifting!
I wonder how many A6 owners will sell their cars to get the 2012 for this huge improvement.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
I wonder how many A6 owners will sell their cars to get the 2012 for this huge improvement.
Probably about the same number that sold their '07s to get the improved steering feel, or their '08s to get the built in bluetooth...etc etc. A car marketing department's dream
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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Matches dual-clutch?

Bull ****
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 03:30 PM
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Tried looking for the article online but didn't find it. I would be interested in reading it.

I had an '08 with the A6 transmission, it seemed okay at the track - at least I could work with it (hpde), though it ran a little warmer than I liked. The upshifts were pretty slow (no tune) so I would call for gear changes early. It boiled down to timing of the shifts which is something you get used to. The terrific torque of the LS-3's made the timing of the shifts less critical.

I just traded it in on a '12 GS also with the A6. I noticed a difference in the way it shifts in both 'D' and 'S' modes. One of the new features I found is you can downshift (and upshift) with the paddle shifters when in D mode.

I also noticed when in S mode, the car does seem to shift better and yes, I did notice it was a bit quicker and more positive than the '08. The car is still in its break-in period so I have not had opportunity to drive it very hard to notice any changes in the programming. I'll have to wait until track season starts again before I will drive it hard enough to experience the difference (I don't like driving aggressively on city streets, it isn't like the old days).

If someone could send an link to the article or to their website so I know I'm researching the right web site it would be much appreciated.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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Article indicates no intention of earlier model reflashing, which is par
as GM didn't allow for 06 and 07 A6's to be reflashed with the 08 tranny retune.
Not true.... I invented that. The guys I spoke to at GM said NOT to do it and that it would

end up in disaster.....

Funny thing was that when they told me NOT to do it, I had already been doing it for a year and

I had done hundreds of them at that point.

The conversion is available from me from 2006-2009. 2010, 2011, and 2012 are all DIFFERENT

and NOT interchangeable insofar as I know. I have not really tried to mix em up

and I'm not willing to smoke a $700 controller and 60 bucks in ATF and a few hours labor to find out.

I in 2008 the engine controllers changed and having not realized that, I smoked $2,000. of

E38 engine controllers before I figured out what was wrong.....

I would not mess around with the later ones.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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I don't use the paddles, my thing is I hate the look of the 2012 seats! Really, to me they dont look right in a vert...
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 11:44 PM
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I can see I really don't know or understand what parameters are tuned with a transmission tune.

Chuck, are you able to see the different parameters with the later models? Are they not tunable? What would make it not tunable? Did GM change components in the transmission that would make it more difficult to not predict the outcome of a tune? I have a 2012 gs A6, don't want to tune it now but in the future I was thinking it would be a desirable thing to do if it "wakes up" the performance of the transmission. Sometimes I wish I lived on the East Coast, I would love to learn more about this, especially being a computer guy.

What about the later model engines? At some point in time I will install a set of headers and polish the throttle body, maybe more if I think I need the horsepower for hpde and for all of that or any of those components I think a tune would be necessary.
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Originally Posted by vetdude
Yep, you'll really notice that 50 millisecond delay when paddle shifting!
NEWS to me...nothing in the article I read that talked about a 50 millisecond delay improvement....care to id what page of the article/magazine you found that on???
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeCsix
Tried looking for the article online but didn't find it. I would be interested in reading it.


If someone could send an link to the article or to their website so I know I'm researching the right web site it would be much appreciated.
It isn't on their web site (they do not post current articles)..gotta go blow $5 and buy it...most major newstands such as Barnes and Noble. Vette magazine.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
Matches dual-clutch?

Bull ****
And you got your PhD in mechanical engineering/fluid dynamics from MIT when???
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