Cold Air Intake
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Be careful about the cutting your shroud with the oem...I did and had the worst surge ever.... so please don't cut your shroud! I had to buy a new shroud to stop the surge. I'm not pushing any CAI but I did purchase a Halltech MF103 and every thing work out great.
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So-called cold air intakes scoop extra hot air right off the pavement where it is up to 30 degrees hotter tham ambient, not "cold" air by any stretch of the imagination. Any performance increase is strictly in one's imagination after wasting one's money, and substantially increasing the chance of ingesting road splash into and hydrolocking your engine, something that has been documented numerous times on this Forum.
As far as the gains experienced, that may be true that it is not all that meaningful for regular street driving.
However, if you are doing other mods, and plan on getting a tune anyway, then the cost of the tune with the intake and other performance improvements added together make sense. The Vararam will be recognized by the car's computer, and after several runs with it, the car will make it's own recalculations for proper preformance. I did this in my C5 before I did some other mods, and the car ran fine with this as the only mod to begin with.
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So-called cold air intakes scoop extra hot air right off the pavement where it is up to 30 degrees hotter tham ambient, not "cold" air by any stretch of the imagination. Any performance increase is strictly in one's imagination after wasting one's money, and substantially increasing the chance of ingesting road splash into and hydrolocking your engine, something that has been documented numerous times on this Forum.
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[QUOTE=JoesC5;1579690654]Finally a reason for you to buy a Grand Sport. It gets it's cold air from that scoop at the top of the bumper(that your C6 doesn't have).[/QUOTE
Only problem is the poorer aerodynamics, larger frontal area, greater rolling resistance, and heavier weight of the G/S overwhelms whatever advantage that little scoop provides. That is why GM is too ashamed to post the top speed of the G/S ......it is so much S...L...O...W...E...R.
Only problem is the poorer aerodynamics, larger frontal area, greater rolling resistance, and heavier weight of the G/S overwhelms whatever advantage that little scoop provides. That is why GM is too ashamed to post the top speed of the G/S ......it is so much S...L...O...W...E...R.
#25
Drifting
The Calloway is a a quality CAI. I gained 12 hp with the Calloway over the original Hallteck Killer Bee.
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Another vote for Vararam here... Suggestion came from Chuck Cow. He tuned my Vette and sold me the Vararam.. well worth it in my opinion.
I agree that for most its a waste of money but I drove mine like I stole it every chance I get... and I love wasting money on my Vette
I agree that for most its a waste of money but I drove mine like I stole it every chance I get... and I love wasting money on my Vette
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[QUOTE=laconiajack;1579690710]
And I can pass your skinny butt any day of the week with my fat fendered Z06 with the huge rolling resistance tires and larger frontal area, that weighs less then your skinny butt. I guess that little scoop in the bumper does help. It makes my car faster then yours.
Finally a reason for you to buy a Grand Sport. It gets it's cold air from that scoop at the top of the bumper(that your C6 doesn't have).[/QUOTE
Only problem is the poorer aerodynamics, larger frontal area, greater rolling resistance, and heavier weight of the G/S overwhelms whatever advantage that little scoop provides. That is why GM is too ashamed to post the top speed of the G/S ......it is so much S...L...O...W...E...R.
Only problem is the poorer aerodynamics, larger frontal area, greater rolling resistance, and heavier weight of the G/S overwhelms whatever advantage that little scoop provides. That is why GM is too ashamed to post the top speed of the G/S ......it is so much S...L...O...W...E...R.
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Here we go again!
Another vote for Vararam here... Suggestion came from Chuck Cow. He tuned my Vette and sold me the Vararam.. well worth it in my opinion.
I agree that for most its a waste of money but I drove mine like I stole it every chance I get... and I love wasting money on my Vette
I agree that for most its a waste of money but I drove mine like I stole it every chance I get... and I love wasting money on my Vette
Here we go again!
It just happens to be the MOST POPULAR COLD AIR INTAKE...
FOR A VERY GOOD REASON.
Call me and I'll make you a deal on one!
Chuck CoW
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[QUOTE=JoesC5;1579691167]Duhh; I don't suppose your larger, higher horsepower engine and lighter frame has anything to do with that. I was simply observing that the G/S, with the same engine as the base Vette, is S...L...O...W...E...R than the base Vette. The reason your Z06 is faster has nothing to do with that little cosmetic scoop in your hood. Good grief!
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But it looks so good!!!! PHAT PHAT PHAT!!!!!!
Finally a reason for you to buy a Grand Sport. It gets it's cold air from that scoop at the top of the bumper(that your C6 doesn't have).[/QUOTE
Only problem is the poorer aerodynamics, larger frontal area, greater rolling resistance, and heavier weight of the G/S overwhelms whatever advantage that little scoop provides. That is why GM is too ashamed to post the top speed of the G/S ......it is so much S...L...O...W...E...R.
Only problem is the poorer aerodynamics, larger frontal area, greater rolling resistance, and heavier weight of the G/S overwhelms whatever advantage that little scoop provides. That is why GM is too ashamed to post the top speed of the G/S ......it is so much S...L...O...W...E...R.
#32
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Waste of money unless you are planning to tune the car, and even then I would still question it, especially with the LS3/7 and 9. You'd have to see how much did the tune provide and how much HP you'd really gain from the system.
You might pick up 5 or 10hp ,and 1/10th at the track, and if that's important to you, than shelling out 400-600 bucks for the top CAI kits might be worth it. If youre just driving the car mainly on the street for fun and occasional track visit, not worth it IMO.
You might pick up 5 or 10hp ,and 1/10th at the track, and if that's important to you, than shelling out 400-600 bucks for the top CAI kits might be worth it. If youre just driving the car mainly on the street for fun and occasional track visit, not worth it IMO.
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Only problem is the poorer aerodynamics, larger frontal area, greater rolling resistance, and heavier weight of the G/S overwhelms whatever advantage that little scoop provides. That is why GM is too ashamed to post the top speed of the G/S ......it is so much S...L...O...W...E...R.
You've made yourself a celebrity here Jack when it comes to GS hate, there's no doubt about it..but some of your claims are just pure nonsense.
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The GS bodystyle , and tire sizes are the SAME as the Z06...so tell me about this HUGE rolling resistence of the Gigantic tires...and "poorer aerodynamics" in fact, the ZR1 shares the virtually the SAME wide-body design as the Z06 and GS. If the Widebody had such "poor" aerodynamics as you say, it would not be on the two fastest production Corvettes made to date
You've made yourself a celebrity here Jack when it comes to GS hate, there's no doubt about it..but some of your claims are just pure nonsense.
You've made yourself a celebrity here Jack when it comes to GS hate, there's no doubt about it..but some of your claims are just pure nonsense.
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Okay, now I understand. At a buck 20, a buck 30 and at a buck 50, etc the 400% increase in front brake cooling and the 200% increase in rear brake cooling, the increased front and rear downforce, and the greater adhesion to the pavement with the wide tires and the shorter stopping distances with the Z06 and the ZR1, combined with the cold air scoop on the front bumper, only work with the Z06 and the ZR1, but not the GS. I didn't realize that the laws of physics changed depending on the name of the model Corvette or it's horsepower.
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Burning Brakes
[QUOTE=laconiajack;1579690710]
I have the gs, what little scoop you talking about. Have a picture?
Finally a reason for you to buy a Grand Sport. It gets it's cold air from that scoop at the top of the bumper(that your C6 doesn't have).[/QUOTE
Only problem is the poorer aerodynamics, larger frontal area, greater rolling resistance, and heavier weight of the G/S overwhelms whatever advantage that little scoop provides. That is why GM is too ashamed to post the top speed of the G/S ......it is so much S...L...O...W...E...R.
Only problem is the poorer aerodynamics, larger frontal area, greater rolling resistance, and heavier weight of the G/S overwhelms whatever advantage that little scoop provides. That is why GM is too ashamed to post the top speed of the G/S ......it is so much S...L...O...W...E...R.
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I would love the wider *** end on my base c6. Of course it would be faster due to better traction. As for cai, vararam for me. Got one used on here for $200 w/ throttle body spacer. def. Noticed the difference. But I have put 15k miles on the car in the last 6 months. Alot of seat time