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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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I am a buyer at $699(don't Need Carbon as I want to paint mine gloss black). I also want to keep my reverse lights and 4 tip exhaust. intently waiting to see the finished product. Feel free to PM Me if you need a guinea pig as I would be happy to give a full review and take lots of pictures and post up on the forum. Here is my humble ride and the difusser is the last piece to my puzzle for exterior mods:

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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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Before I commit to this? What kind guarantee you offer for fitment and quality of the part? I don’t want pay for something and don’t fit again. Had very bad experience with other factory try to make carbon fiber part.
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 02:56 PM
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yup, i'd be interested in the unpainted fiberglass version too. no need for carbon on my car. 699 for unpainted fiberglass is a bit high for my tastes, especially when its only another 100 for some carbon layers AND clearcoat?!

and as stated earlier, be careful who you jump to criticize around here.. costing less isn't a sign that it's junk or not made well -many people (myself included) are happy with a slightly heavier / different design that others may find ugly or inadequate.

i know it wasn't your intent to come off that way, and i'm sure you will make an excellent quality product many people will be interested in.

last point: pictures. i'm excited to see this prototype, any idea when you'll have some mockups...? i understand it will be inspired by APR, but not exactly the same. anxious to see how this progresses!

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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer
Personalize them? Sorry my bad, I thought 2+2 =4 It is good we agree, the diffusers we bought are not junk.
To tell you the truth, I've never even seen the diffuser you bought. You assumed I was talking about them, since they're fresh in your mind (which I'd have done, too, honestly), but I promise that I have no idea of the quality, other than what you've shared.

I've taken a chance on some stuff before that's totally worked out. It's risk vs. reward.

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Show us some of your diffuser prototype photos, otherwise, you sounded just like another Knock off company try to make copies off other company's designs and products.
That's the rub.

It's not cheap to make a prototype for something that MIGHT sell. This valence, for example, will cost approximately $1200 before we lay a single square inch of carbon into the mold.

Now, we don't mind going through the exercise, but without even crude market research (such as this thread), it'd be financial suicide to run off and make every wild and otherwise cool thing we like.

Believe me, my partner and I battle over this all day. Products that would be cool to make and products that will sell (which is why we do this) aren't necessarily playing for the same team.
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew6
I've seen their quality of work and it's great. The weave patterns are perfect. Keep up the good work
Thanks man. A compliment from another vendor is one of the highest order.

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I am a buyer at $699(don't Need Carbon as I want to paint mine gloss black).

OK, first of all: Holy CRAP is your car nice.

If you don't mind, can you shoot Quik ZO6 a PM with some pictures of the back of your car?

Originally Posted by DMB2006
Before I commit to this? What kind guarantee you offer for fitment and quality of the part?

Originally Posted by thattexaskid19
yup, i'd be interested in the unpainted fiberglass version too.
Our guarantee for fitment is simple: it fits or you send it back, on us, and we refund your money. Period.

We don't want to sell you a piece you can't use any more than you want to own one.

So, I'll personally make the same offer to the members of CF.Com as I discussed with Pete a few days ago. We'll take it in two rounds.

Round 1:
You send a $50 deposit (50% refundable) to Quik ZO6, to commit to the prototyping. With 5 committed deposits, we'll move to the prototyping stage. From that point, it'll take us 10-15 business days to make a mold and produce a single part.

Once we have the prototype completed, meeting the aesthetic expectations of both us and those with deposits, we move to Round 2.

Round 2:
You send a 50% deposit (non-refundable) to Quik ZO6. With 5 committed orders, we'll move to manufacturing.

Once we move to manufacturing, it'll take 10-15 business days to manufacture and ship completed valences.

Parenthetically, it doesn't matter if it's Carbon, Hybrid, Full Fiberglass, or any combination of the three: it'll all be ready within 10-15 business days.

Lastly, for those of you who decide to back out of the order once you see the part, the $25 dollars we don't refund will be donated to The Wounded Warriors Project, as I am a U.S. Marine Corps Infantryman and John's father was in the U.S. Army, having fought in WWII.

http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/

Lastly, we don't hold your money. Quik ZO6 holds your deposits throughout. Some companies need your deposits in order to make your parts, as well as the parts of others.

We don't.

If you don't like it, Pete will get you taken care of directly. Once everything is ready to ship, Pete pays us, we head to FedEx, and we're all taken care of on both sides

Fair enough?

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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 05:24 PM
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^^ Very fair. I just spent a ton of money lately, so I won't be able to play right now. Literally not even $50 to spare right now. Anybody on your team handy with 3D CAD? Maybe could whip up a computer generated version instead of custom making a prototype... Just a thought. Good luck, and thanks for the update!
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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Here is my suggestion, looks like we are only $250.00 away to have this project start it. I said Quik ZO6 should put out initial cost to have prototype started, I do not see why a reliable company can’t invest $250.00 into R&D? G3 Composites can show us step by step how the design and prototype is done. This would clear the issue of making replica form other companies. Personally I would like to see something different form OEM or APR parts.
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DMB2006
Here is my suggestion, looks like we are only $250.00 away to have this project start it. I said Quik ZO6 should put out initial cost to have prototype started, I do not see why a reliable company can’t invest $250.00 into R&D? G3 Composites can show us step by step how the design and prototype is done. This would clear the issue of making replica form other companies. Personally I would like to see something different form OEM or APR parts.
It's not about $250. If that was the case it would have been started a long time ago. It's about having 5 committed buyers. G3 wants to make sure it's something that would sell. In other words why spend money prototyping etc when it won't sell. Personally I think once they are built they would sell. Just a matter of getting 5 buyers in line.
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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Pete hit the nail on the head.

If we're willing to spend more than $1000 to make the part, we'd like to know we have a serious base of buyers, so we're not throwing the $1000 into a hole.

I'll see if we can work with our Graphic Designer and put something together for the purposes of providing a rough visual.

Also, the valence of the car doesn't leave a whole lot of room for artistic license. Like I said, we're not buying someone else's valence and simply copying it, but if there are specific elements everyone agrees they'd like to see, it can only look *so* different.

So, while there's more than one way to skin a cat, there are also only a finite number of ways, at the same time.

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I sell a few carbon fiber parts and the one that most folks want are the rear diffuser. That being said, most folks won't spend 1000 + for in carbon but still want real carbon. If it can be priced around 750 to 800 then I think they'll sell all day long, more if it's a cool design. I think you'll be fine with the sales aspect of the product, but most owners of the vettes are visual as am I and if they can see at a minimum of an artist rendering of it you'd have quite a few folks jumping on board.
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 1 slow 97
I am a buyer at $699(don't Need Carbon as I want to paint mine gloss black). I also want to keep my reverse lights and 4 tip exhaust. intently waiting to see the finished product. Feel free to PM Me if you need a guinea pig as I would be happy to give a full review and take lots of pictures and post up on the forum. Here is my humble ride and the difusser is the last piece to my puzzle for exterior mods:


I can't stand the carbon fiber look, and want to keep the stock 4-tip exhaust.
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 03:29 AM
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I sell a few carbon fiber parts and the one that most folks want are the rear diffuser. That being said, most folks won't spend 1000 + for in carbon but still want real carbon. If it can be priced around 750 to 800 then I think they'll sell all day long, more if it's a cool design. I think you'll be fine with the sales aspect of the product, but most owners of the vettes are visual as am I and if they can see at a minimum of an artist rendering of it you'd have quite a few folks jumping on board.
Thanks Andrew, and I agree as does G3. We know that not having an actual product to show does make it hard, which is why we thought the $50 deposit would be enticing as it's only $50. Some may be worried, but we wouldn't make a cheesy diffuser or whatever, and as mentioned we'll make sure it fits like a glove.
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 03:45 AM
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Ok that would be 1 anyone else interested?
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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Thanks for stepping up, Andrew.

It looks like we've hit the sub-$800 goal for most people who don't need full carbon. All we need are a few more people to step up with you.
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Originally Posted by Big Top Gt
Thanks for stepping up, Andrew.

It looks like we've hit the sub-$800 goal for most people who don't need full carbon. All we need are a few more people to step up with you.
I'm a bit shocked, Maybe its the time of year. I'd figure folks would be on this like hotcakes. The stock difusser looks trashy especially if you have a z06, zr1 or Grandsport. Hell I have a stock (well sorta) C6 and that was one of the first things that had to go.
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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i'm down as soon as i have money! lol...

if you really want to get customers in line quickly, you're going to need some kind of picture to show what their money is going toward...
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Do diffusers help with the backdraft that covers the rear of the car with road filth. I'd spend almost any amount if the product kept my tail clean. The whole car can be clean but the artic white tail gets dirty in just a few miles.
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Do diffusers help with the backdraft that covers the rear of the car with road filth. I'd spend almost any amount if the product kept my tail clean. The whole car can be clean but the artic white tail gets dirty in just a few miles.
I don't think so (as far as the diffuser). I know some guys have mentioned on the C5, when they add a wing that hangs over it keeps the lights a bit cleaner. That might be an option for you.
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