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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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Having waited (patiently) to break in my 11 GS properly before I start horsing with it, I had not utilized the launch control until now. Today I experimented with it, one needs to slam the pedal for launch control to activate, mine first tried to get up to over 5000-6000 rpm but than ECM took over and brought it back to 4600 RPMs and held it there (few tries, same 4600 RPM). I know it supposed to take into consideration of many factors but I thought (heard) that it was supposed to settle around 4200 rpms.

I also love to hear opinions on launch control VS manual launch control from forum members who have a preference of one over another. Which one works better?...(and for the life of the clutch)

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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Launch control requires from a stop the wheels pointed straight, trans in 1st, competitive mode, and stomp the accellerator. I haven't tried it on the new Centennial Z06 yet, but I thought it was supposed to settle around 3500-3800 rpm.
I've seen videos of it, and it looks pretty violent. Of course any wide open launches tend to wear a clutch. But then, we didn't really get a Vette to drive slow, did we?

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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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Having waited (patiently) to break in my 11 GS properly before I start horsing with it, I had not utilized the launch control until now. Today I experimented with it, one needs to slam the pedal for launch control to activate, mine first tried to get up to over 5000-6000 rpm but than ECM took over and brought it back to 4600 RPMs and held it there (few tries, same 4600 RPM). I know it supposed to take into consideration of many factors but I thought (heard) that it was supposed to settle around 4200 rpms.

I also love to hear opinions on launch control VS manual launch control from forum members who have a preference of one over another. Which one works better?...(and for the life of the clutch)

Thank you all!....
The machine will lengthen the clutch life over a human. On a regular basis the machine will outperform most humans. Some humans will be consistently better than the machine but they will be people with many drag strip passes.

Did you hold it to the floor through all 4 gears? When in launch control you don't lift when you shift.

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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 09:56 PM
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i dont drive my car hard at all but i did have to try it once on my 2012 coupe. put it in first and stomp it in comp mode and my car stayed at 4100 rpms no higher. let the clutch fly and that was it. in my opinion it comes out of the hole pretty meekly with launch control but then again im no racer. i think the car would serve you better to leave it off if you really know how to launch a corvette which by the way i don't!
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 10:07 PM
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The machine will lengthen the clutch life over a human. On a regular basis the machine will outperform most humans. Some humans will be consistently better than the machine but they will be people with many drag strip passes.

Did you hold it to the floor through all 4 gears? When in launch control you don't lift when you shift.

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What do you mean, "you don't lift when you shift?"
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 10:11 PM
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JRS_MY_C5
What do you mean, "you don't lift when you shift?"
If you are a "competent" drag racer (experienced) when you shift from 1st to 2nd you do NOT lift the gas pedal from the floor... the same goes when you shift to 3rd & 4th (if you have to shift to 4th in the 1/4 mile..

You have to be "SURE" of your shifting abilities.. because if you miss a gear the rpm will go to the rev limiter..

Back when I was young, we didn't have rev limiters, and the rpm would go to the moon and bend a valve or break a valve spring.... at best.. or it could be real bad & break the motor..

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Back in the day, we jusy called it "Power Shift".
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4500 is where mine settled.
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocket-J
Back in the day, we jusy called it "Power Shift".
We used to call it "Board Shifting", lifting off the throttle between shifts we called it "Speed Shifting". Man if you missed a gear when Board Shifting or were slow banging that next gear it was not a pretty sound.
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Originally Posted by JRS_MY_C5
What do you mean, "you don't lift when you shift?"
Excellent question. I have read everything that came with this car (in minute detail plus I have all shop manuals for it), naturally I am familiar with power shifting but no where in any of the documentation (and the youtube videos I have watched) says that the launch control must be utilized this way (other than having the gas pedal on the floor before launch). Anyhow I am not much of a dragster, I prefer closed circuit racing, I would probably break something so I wont even try it..

How did you fare with this method?. No I have not launched the car yet, just experimented with putting it in that mode ready to launch.
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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I've deployed launch control on my ZR. RPMs settled north of 4k. And yes, you can shift without lifting the throttle. Once you lift the throttle any amount at all, it pulls you out of launch control mode. It's a little unnerving the first time you use launch control as it goes against everything you may have been taught - like flooring the throttle with clutch in, and not lifting throttle during shifts etc.

But it definitely works.
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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I've deployed launch control on my ZR. RPMs settled north of 4k. And yes, you can shift without lifting the throttle. Once you lift the throttle any amount at all, it pulls you out of launch control mode. It's a little unnerving the first time you use launch control as it goes against everything you may have been taught - like flooring the throttle with clutch in, and not lifting throttle during shifts etc.

But it definitely works.
Thi is most intertesting!...let me try to understand this. I thought the launch control was strictly for the initial launch, and you were entirely on your own after that, your shift points and methodolgy. What RPM's do you shift at, how does the shift RPMs are controlled (if any) on 1-2 and 2-3 shifts?...
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
I've deployed launch control on my ZR. RPMs settled north of 4k. And yes, you can shift without lifting the throttle. Once you lift the throttle any amount at all, it pulls you out of launch control mode. It's a little unnerving the first time you use launch control as it goes against everything you may have been taught - like flooring the throttle with clutch in, and not lifting throttle during shifts etc.

But it definitely works.
so the best way to propell the car is to leave it floored the whole time,never let the throttle up and just keep shifting? BTW i was just outside to check rpms on launch control and on my coupe as of 10 mins ago it was 4400 rpms.
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Originally Posted by gsflyer2011
Thi is most intertesting!...let me try to understand this. I thought the launch control was strictly for the initial launch, and you were entirely on your own after that, your shift points and methodolgy. What RPM's do you shift at, how does the shift RPMs are controlled (if any) on 1-2 and 2-3 shifts?...

No, it's not strictly for the launch, altho you can use just for the launch if you want. I.e. you can launch with it and then lift throttle for the 1-2 shift, tho once you lift throttle for that shift you are out of launch control mode.

Or you can launch with it, and keep the throttle buried, don't lift at all, and you can shift with throttle buried and it will manage the rpms b/n shifts. I've actually shifted all the way into 4th gear without lifting in launch control mode. I shifted just before redline.
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so the best way to propell the car is to leave it floored the whole time,never let the throttle up and just keep shifting? BTW i was just outside to check rpms on launch control and on my coupe as of 10 mins ago it was 4400 rpms.
As I mentioned to Gsflyer above you can either stay in the throttle - and in launch control - and it will manage the rpms for the shift.

Or you can use LC for just the launch and lift throttle for the shifts. Once you lift, tho, you're out of launch control and on your own.
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My Drag Racing experience is 40 years old. But I did learn some things in the 60's. Power Shifting can get ugly. Best not to go to Red Line before shifting, because it will rev even higher during the shift.
Practise power shifting at half throttle. Shift at 4000 rpm or even 3500 rpm. Go through 4 gears. You will never need more than that in a 1/4 mile. If you do, you have a very fast car.
During this practise you will not be accelerating that fast. Don't worry about that. Just practise your shift. Never push the throttle to the floor. When you feel confident that you will hit every shift every time, add more throttle and gradually get faster. Even when you are at your best, shift about 4500 rpm. This is in your best torque curve and it give you a little room if you are too slow on the shift. Acceleration is all about torque. How well an engine increases it's RPM under load. You don't need to over rev to get good times. Go ahead and red line accross the finish line. That's okay, just not on the shifts. Have fun.
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One last thing I should point out. Having used LC a few times and getting a good sense of how it behaves, but not doing any back to back comparisons b/n LC and me doing myself, I don't know whether I could beat LC or not. I'm just an average Joe pilot and haven't done any back to back dedicated experimenting with it. My sense is, I may be able to do better than the system with enough practice.

That said, being familiar with how LC behaves, I have zero doubt in my mind that if I lined up against Fartpipe, Kyle Lemish, Ranger et al - that class of hot shoe 1/4 mile guys - that they would smoke my *** with me using LC.

I also have zero doubt that if I lined up against those guys and I wasn't using LC, that I get my *** kicked there as well.
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During these power shifts, do you guys need to clutch in at all?
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During these power shifts, do you guys need to clutch in at all?

Yes. At least I do anyway.
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