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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 11:43 AM
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Maybe I'm just suspicious by nature but if you had the car there for an oil change how the hell would they know you need new pads and rotors? Typcially, the oil change guys at the dealership aren't master mechanics. Removing all 4 wheels, inspecting pads and mic'ing the rotors isn't part of an oil service. I could be wrong but I suspect they're simply looking to pad the bill. BEZ06 gave you the measurements. Take the car to an independent shop (some offer free brake inspections) or go back to the dealership and have them show you the pads and rotors are bad....see what condition they're in and verify the measurements. Good luck!
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Wayne O
Maybe I'm just suspicious by nature but if you had the car there for an oil change how the hell would they know you need new pads and rotors? Typcially, the oil change guys at the dealership aren't master mechanics. Removing all 4 wheels, inspecting pads and mic'ing the rotors isn't part of an oil service. I could be wrong but I suspect they're simply looking to pad the bill. BEZ06 gave you the measurements. Take the car to an independent shop (some offer free brake inspections) or go back to the dealership and have them show you the pads and rotors are bad....see what condition they're in and verify the measurements. Good luck!
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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The rotors that came with the car were not CUT on the car... Really? If you turn them a few thousandths... to clean them up... there is no big loss... Z51 Rotors are $$$$ unlike the cheap base ones...
Just an FYI, it is true new rotors are machined off the car. Normally, after cars are driven, bearing clearance run out opens up! If mated rotors were removed and machined off the hub, then the combined run out will not be the same!

However, there is portable rotor machine that can mount onto wheel hub, to resurface rotor, with compensation for bearing wear factored in to provide an accurate mated run out when finished, but most shops don't have it!

For safety, when comes to brakes, it is recommended to maintain rotor mass as much as possible.
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 04:49 PM
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I consider rotor half-life to determine if they are worth turning. If they will clean up prior to the middle of their usable range, they are acceptable, otherwise replace them. Let the machinist know your expectations and what you'll accept if not met.

With Z51/F55 rotors, it's imperitive to have experienced personell doing the job, so they aren't cut wrong or too much. Interrupted cuts (holes and/or slots) require a different technique than plain rotors.
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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Wheels do not have to be removed to check the pads. It is very easy, especially on a lift. GM's .030" minimum is well below my minimum. Later! Frank
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Old Mar 27, 2012 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Wayne O
Maybe I'm just suspicious by nature but if you had the car there for an oil change how the hell would they know you need new pads and rotors? Typcially, the oil change guys at the dealership aren't master mechanics. Removing all 4 wheels, inspecting pads and mic'ing the rotors isn't part of an oil service. I could be wrong but I suspect they're simply looking to pad the bill. BEZ06 gave you the measurements. Take the car to an independent shop (some offer free brake inspections) or go back to the dealership and have them show you the pads and rotors are bad....see what condition they're in and verify the measurements. Good luck!
The dealer did have the care on a lift and they took me back to show me the pads. Of course the pads were not measured with the wheels on, but you are able to look between the spokes to see that the pads are visibly low. They were not going to do any work until they actually removed the wheels and measured. They were just advising me at that point. I was surprised because I hadn't heard any sort of squeeling. In the meantime, I have been pricing and getting advice from some independents (by phone). In all cases the cost would be way cheaper than the dealer and they are giving differing opinions (similar to here on the forum) about machining the rotors.
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